What effect would a PA win have?

[brandon]

The fight in pa for delegates is about more then just RP winning the nomination. It is about taking back our states GOP for future elections. We win the delegates, we rewrite the states party platform and show them that pa is for liberty.

 

[Midnight77]

When did he say that? In recent videos regarding his race, it seems that he is actually excited about whats been happening with Ron Paul delegates and what could happen at the convention. Hell, the official site has a little "Become a Delegate" thing now. It's quite obvious that he knows he has a chance.

Ron said he is proud of the campaign's accomplishments, but he said that a victory is not probable with this election. That was in a campaign video posted on his very website. That was the one where the Media jumped and said he was dropping out. But those were his words.

We have 14 delegates as of right now. 14 measley delegates. Compare that to McCain, who has already won enough to win the nomination.

McCain is the nominee. It's time to accept it and figure out what we are going to do next.

 

[The Only Woj]

it would have roughly the same effect (and probably just as likely) of John McCain holding a press conference to reveal that he is actually a dinosaur.

 

[Todd]

In the least it might give Paul a voice at the convention.

At best it could make it a mess for McCain. It would definetely make headlines.

 

[brandon]

In the least it might give Paul a voice at the convention.

At best it could make it a mess for McCain. It would definetely make headlines.

It won't make headlines. McCain will win the popular straw poll in a landslide, and that will be the only thing the media reports.

We can win the most delegates regardless of the straw poll. The media will not report it.

 

[Zera]

Ron said he is proud of the campaign's accomplishments, but he said that a victory is not probable with this election. That was in a campaign video posted on his very website. That was the one where the Media jumped and said he was dropping out. But those were his words.

We have 14 delegates as of right now. 14 measley delegates. Compare that to McCain, who has already won enough to win the nomination.

McCain is the nominee. It's time to accept it and figure out what we are going to do next.

I dunno how many times I have to repeat this. The delegate count won't mean much until the actual convention. Until then, which is six months ago, there are going to be hundreds and hundreds of county conventions, and 50 state conventions by then. If the delegates do well, McCain's delegates will become unbound, and the national delegates, if the state's delegates were at least 50% Paul supporters, will be national Paul delegates. What does that mean? We win.

 

[Midnight77]

I dunno how many times I have to repeat this. The delegate count won't mean much until the actual convention. Until then, which is six months ago, there are going to be hundreds and hundreds of county conventions, and 50 state conventions by then. If the delegates do well, McCain's delegates will become unbound, and the national delegates, if the state's delegates were at least 50% Paul supporters, will be national Paul delegates. What does that mean? We win.

You are living in a Fantasy World. You think all of McCain's delegates are going to change their mind and come over and support Ron, defying the majority that voted for him.

You are out of your mind.

Why is it that Ron has conceded that he won't win the nomination, but you apparently can't?

 

[idiom]

Do we need a PA money Bomb? A take back the 'Mo' bomb?

 

[bucfish]

Never give up keep picking up as many delegates as possible and get to the RNC in St. Paul, MN even if McCain gets the nominatiuon we could boo him during his acceptance speech and maybe see MCAngry get tempermental on National TV.

 

[Midnight77]

Never give up keep picking up as many delegates as possible and get to the RNC in St. Paul, MN even if McCain gets the nominatiuon we could boo him during his acceptance speech and maybe see MCAngry get tempermental on National TV.

That would be hysterical.

 

[Zera]

You are living in a Fantasy World. You think all of McCain's delegates are going to change their mind and come over and support Ron, defying the majority that voted for him.

You are out of your mind.

Why is it that Ron has conceded that he won't win the nomination, but you apparently can't?

For fuck's sake. In the most recent talking he has done, he has shown that he believes there is a damn possibility. Whatever you read was before that, perhaps when he first started his campaign. And, as I said, if there are PAUL SUPPORTERS AS DELEGATES, nobody will have to change their mind. They'd already know who they'd want. After the first two-three ballots of no winner, they may just go with Paul themselves so they can end it.

 

[TheTyke]

Why do people repeatedly repeat (heh) myths from the media? The "14" delegate thing is WAY off, just the same as McCain's total.

There's really no reason to dampen people's enthusiasm. There are 6 months left to go, and a world of things could change. Yes, the chance is slim, but it nonetheless exists, and we can't afford to stop pursuing it.

The #1 reason Ron Paul hasn't been winning primaries is because people believe the media. Since 2007 they attach "but he can't win." and "Will you run 3rd party?" to every single bloody interview (of which there are few). We had people not vote for this reason, and we've lost formerly enthusastic supporters in my area to the defeatism.

I have no illusions that winning is likely. I'm just tired of people assisting the media's propaganda war that has been waged from the start.

I believe I became a delegate today, and our county (in KY) got an estimated 18/25 delegates that favor Ron Paul. And I don't feel it's a huge Ron Paul state, to begin with. Honestly, it's the people who think this is over who are the most delusional.

/endrant

 

[AJ Antimony]

I dunno how many times I have to repeat this. The delegate count won't mean much until the actual convention. Until then, which is six months ago, there are going to be hundreds and hundreds of county conventions, and 50 state conventions by then. If the delegates do well, McCain's delegates will become unbound, and the national delegates, if the state's delegates were at least 50% Paul supporters, will be national Paul delegates. What does that mean? We win.

And even if it's not 50%, say 20-33%, the RP delegates could present a reason why McCain is not a good choice for the GOP nomination and then form a Rump convention and nominate their own Republican candidate.

 

[LibertyIn08]

It is possible.

 

[Midnight77]

It's clear to me that that most of the posters on this Forum are in a state of denial and do not wish to accept reality. I was in that point for a time. But not anymore.

McCain is the Republican nominee and I believe Obama can overcome Hillary's tactics and still take the Democratic nomination.

But I'm tired of people living in the Land of Make Believe. Especially, when Ron hasn't pulled off victory in one single state. And much of that is the fault of his own campaign.

See you all after the Convention, and after it's done ... we'll see what kind of Dream World you are all living in.

 

[LibertyIn08]

It's clear to me that that most of the posters on this Forum are in a state of denial and do not wish to accept reality. I was in that point for a time. But not anymore.

McCain is the Republican nominee and I believe Obama can overcome Hillary's tactics and still take the Democratic nomination.

But I'm tired of people living in the Land of Make Believe. Especially, when Ron hasn't pulled off victory in one single state. And much of that is the fault of his own campaign.

See you all after the Convention, and after it's done ... we'll see what kind of Dream World you are all living in.

We're not just in it for the presidency. Every state, and every delegate, is still important, regardless of McCain's victory. Each voter should have the right to have their voice heard, and the more delegates Ron Paul has, the better.

Some of us never had the high hopes to begin with. Doesn't mean it isn't worth sticking up for the remaining conservatives.

 

[alaric]

It's clear to me that that most of the posters on this Forum are in a state of denial and do not wish to accept reality. I was in that point for a time. But not anymore.

McCain is the Republican nominee and I believe Obama can overcome Hillary's tactics and still take the Democratic nomination.

But I'm tired of people living in the Land of Make Believe. Especially, when Ron hasn't pulled off victory in one single state. And much of that is the fault of his own campaign.

See you all after the Convention, and after it's done ... we'll see what kind of Dream World you are all living in.

If reality is one of those 3 traitors getting elected, then I want nothing to do with it. Just beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life here.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

And even if it's not 50%, say 20-33%, the RP delegates could present a reason why McCain is not a good choice for the GOP nomination and then form a Rump convention and nominate their own Republican candidate.

What exactly is a "rump convention"?

-n

 

[nate895]

What exactly is a "rump convention"?

-n

You claim that the convention has no effect because they broke a rule, and you hold your own.

 

[slacker921]

Do we need a PA money Bomb? A take back the 'Mo' bomb?

yes.. but it needs to come from the campaign.

I'll donate if they specifically say the money will go to running ads in PA. Otherwise if grassroots says "we're going to dump a bunch of cash on you" and the campaign doesn't have a clue what to do with it and just hordes it.. then there's a huge disconnect of intentions and I'm not interested.

Ron Paul keeps saying he'll stay in the race as long as there is support and the money keeps coming in. But... people aren't donating much anymore. An "advertise in PA" moneybomb would show people still care.