What Duncan Delegate said about Ron Paul Supporters at Nevada Convention...Thoughts?

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Duncan endorsed Huckabee, right? hm... then Huckabee endorses Mccain... why is she still going for protectionist Duncan? lol

 

[scandinaviany3]

isnt this the 2nd time we have heard this same story from nevada

havent we heard the same story from nevada already

 

[Libertytree]

When does a revolution become a rebellion?

When their rules can be subverted at their will and no one wants to take notice do the rules even matter anymore?

 

[surf]

Kristie ain't up for liberty - forget about it is my advice and prepare for the next meeting - you guys did wonderful. At the next meeting elect someone other than Beers as the Chairperson - whas it Mike Webber? He seemed to know what to do and was respectful. This is something that RP supporters and neocons should be able to agree on to kick-off the meeting on a good note.

my .02.

Thanks, Nevada, for reenergizing supporters nationwide.

 

[TruthAtLast]

ask her when there was a vote to recess the convention (as required by Roberts Rules). ask her why, if there was no time left, did the Peppermill extend the time for 3 hours (would have been nice if the chair would have stayed huh?) ask her why there were dozens of McCain supporters sitting in the back of the room refusing to be counted to make sure that the quorum was broken, then having them CHEER when it was announced that there was not enough for a quorum.

Were some Ron Paul supporters mad? Yes, and they have every right to be!

 

[Zera]

I say some of you guys should pretend to be McInsanites so that the others talk to you, just as it happened to someone else here. If they tell you something that they're planning, just run up to the mic and inform EVERYONE of their plans. Should fuck them over. Also, try recording, audio or video, of them saying it.

 

[RP4EVER]

indeed zera; with video evidence; theyll be doomed

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

That's some off the wall stuff man.

But it doesn't surprise me.

Me, either. Some of these people are stupid followers, and some are on various gravy trains. The ones riding the gravy trains or planning to won't give it up easily. They figure we'll eventually give up. I think they might be wrong.

 

[torchbearer]

Me, either. Some of these people are stupid followers, and some are on various gravy trains. The ones riding the gravy trains or planning to won't give it up easily. They figure we'll eventually give up. I think they might be wrong.

in case you skipped this earlier post:

Didn't they see the signs? This is a revolution, not a tea party....
Our country is in trouble... and the true patriots are moving to save it.
Don't they see why we are so passionate and so unrelenting????

We are trying to save our country, and they are trying to stop us...
if they make a peaceful revolution unattainable, they make a violent one inevitable.

That Duncan Delegate hasn't seen anything yet

 

[pepperpete1]

Rules

When does a revolution become a rebellion?

When their rules can be subverted at their will and no one wants to take notice do the rules even matter anymore?

Per the NVGOP rules, Article 3. Section 2. To set the time and place and to issue the call for the State Convention which shall be held within Clark County in gubernatorial years and within one of the remaining sixteen counties in all presidential years; (This means it cannot be resumed in Las Vegas)and to issue the call for the Congressional district conventions in presidential years during which multi-county district convention shall be held in concert with the State Convention. There shall be no fractional voting from any county at any State Committee meeting, State Convention or any Congressional district caucus or convention.

 

[MGreen]

In fact, some of the people that were there are so disgusted that they do not want to participate further.

 

[mczerone]

When does a revolution become a rebellion?

When their rules can be subverted at their will and no one wants to take notice do the rules even matter anymore?

This is VERY important to remember, but we must take our licks.

I think we can only take so much subversion from the Partymen, but remember - they have they power right now, so it is their right to do what ever they want, and paint us as the bad guys.

We need to earn popular sympathy before we can start breaking any rules. We don't control the media yet.

 

[pepperpete1]

Rules were made to be followed by everybody!

This is VERY important to remember, but we must take our licks.

I think we can only take so much subversion from the Partymen, but remember - they have they power right now, so it is their right to do what ever they want, and paint us as the bad guys.
We need to earn popular sympathy before we can start breaking any rules. We don't control the media yet.

They do NOT have the right to break rules and laws to insure the outcome of a state convention, county convention, and most certainly the national convention.

That is why EVERY infraction should be contested and challenged. If the campaign does not do this SHAME on them...shame....shame.

Actually any resident of the county, state, CD, or SBOE can contest a violation. It is in the rules.

 

[wgadget]

Did you watch the Bloomberg interview from tonight? Ron Paul was asked by the interviewer if he was going to contest the NV shenanigans. He said no, that he didn't want to spend a lot of money on lawyers. Hmmmm.

 

[Arklatex]

I was authentically sad reading the OP until I got to this part:

In fact, some of the people that were there are so disgusted that they do not want to participate further.

 

[mczerone]

They do NOT have the right to break rules and laws to insure the outcome of a state convention, county convention, and most certainly the national convention.

That is why EVERY infraction should be contested and challenged. If the campaign does not do this SHAME on them...shame....shame.

Actually any resident of the county, state, CD, or SBOE can contest a violation. It is in the rules.

While I agree with your sentiment, and wish it to be fair, it is the sad truth that the Party Loyalists have the power to make and change the rules, and then form public opinion that they were just acting 'to defend the party from nut-jobs'. They can make and change the rules at will, and we are screwed until we have the power.

There are very few laws that could be cited against this childish, moronic, ignorant behavior, possibly exclusion based on ideology to a public event, but then it would be nothing but a long court battle with no real short-term result.

Any one CAN contest the behavior to the Party, but WHO is judging the violation?

We need to keep fighting tooth and nail. We can't sit and whine about how they are acting, we must simply accept that they are acting that way, and prepare for it.

The Loyalists will try to escape, both literally and rhetorically - we must persevere.
The Loyalists will hide - we must keep them exposed
The Loyalists will lie - we must stick to the truth
The Loyalists will attack us, our ideas, and our images - we must make all these things unassailable.

I hope that people will go through the proper channels to contest any infraction to Party rules, but I don't think anyone is going to get very far, or very fast.

 

[LibertyEagle]

We need to keep fighting tooth and nail. We can't sit and whine about how they are acting, we must simply accept that they are acting that way, and prepare for it.

Bingo.

According to some friends of my mother's who campaigned with her for Goldwater, Sr. back in the day, that is how they won the Republican nomination back then. The GOP machinery, as I'm sure the Democratic party, has been playing games for a long time. The only way to win is to understand the game, prepare for it and outsmart them.

WE are the GOP. WE are the ones who are trying to take the party back to true conservatism. Never say die!

 

[speciallyblend]

i hear you

Bingo.

According to some friends of my mother's who campaigned with her for Goldwater, Sr. back in the day, that is how they won the Republican nomination back then. The GOP machinery, as I'm sure the Democratic party, has been playing games for a long time. The only way to win is to understand the game, prepare for it and outsmart them.

WE are the GOP. WE are the ones who are trying to take the party back to true conservatism. Never say die!

I wish may 30th/31st would come sooner . I truly can't wait fo the Colorado State Convention . There are alot of old school gop supporting Ron Paul but there are plenty of mccain drones,so hopefully we show up in full force

I already have the word on some of the plans but SHHHHHH, IT'S TOP SECRET

RON PAUL 2008 or the gop will lose the election..

 

[freelance]

This is the same old tired crap that GOPUSA or USAGOP or whatever tried to cram down our throats last summer when they told us to "be civil." It appears that whenever the Ron Paul contingent has the slightest chance of making their mark, we get this kind of crap thrown at us. We are only proper, civil and acceptable when we toe the party line.

 

[PaulineDisciple]

I wish may 30th/31st would come sooner . I truly can't wait fo the Colorado State Convention . There are alot of old school gop supporting Ron Paul but there are plenty of mccain drones,so hopefully we show up in full force

I already have the word on some of the plans but SHHHHHH, IT'S TOP SECRET

RON PAUL 2008 or the gop will lose the election..

Is the first plan voting out the chairman?

Having a chairman walk out of a meeting happened to us first in Jackson County, MO at our county caucus. This is why the first thing we did at the district convention was to vote in a new chairman. I am suprised that voting in a new chairman wasn't the first thing our delegates did at the NV state convention??? What were they thinking???

Sorry if I spoiled your secret but all Ron Paul delegates need to make this the first thing on their agenda in every county, district and state convention, this is the only way to ensure that we get treated fairly. Some Ron Paul supporters think that if you do this first, you will piss all the other delegates off, but after seeing case after case of their BS at these meetings we need tell reluctant supporters that we need to do this and explain to them why. I say that we make this agenda item a priority for all Ron Paul delegates in every state.