What Duncan Delegate said about Ron Paul Supporters at Nevada Convention...Thoughts?

[Magicman]

I have to agree and after attending our Nevada State Convention this weekend and NOT electing ANY DELEGATES to the National Convention, I have even more reason to agree! The Ron Paul supporters tried to overrun our convention and take control. I was so disgusted with the way these people acted. AND….one of them threatened the Chairman of the convention as he was leaving who is one of our State Senators. He had to be escorted out of the building with a security detail. It was NUTS and it almost seemed like violence was going to break out in the convention room when we had to recess our convention due to our contract for the room had expired and we had to leave the hotel.



I am SO DISGUSTED with Ron Paul supporters and they are causing more harm than good. In fact, some of the people that were there are so disgusted that they do not want to participate further.



I am hoping that we can come to a positive conclusion to our state convention in the near future. For now, I am MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!



Kristie Parker

Washoe County Delegate


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My Response:

Are you guys watching the same video I am? What I saw was a group of Mccainites completely ignore the Robert Rules of Order by leaving the event when the chairmen shut down the convention which was completely shady. Ron Paul supporters won and instead of accepting it they couldnt decide what to do and the chairmen shut down the convention. Not only is that immature that is unAmerican and a sore loser mentality.

Ron Paul stayed in the race and didn't back Mccain because Mccain doesn't have principles true to the Republican party. He was a Democrat herder and is not conservative. That is the shame. He is only begging for the Conservative vote cause he needs it he could careless. Why should any Ron Paul supporters or any other candidate pick Mccain when he is possibly one of the worst if not the worst choice for a Republican candidate.

Here are the videos I have seen, and what Mccain people and the Chairmen did was disgraceful and they all should be ashamed of themselves.

Here are videoclips for those wondering what happened:

http://www.youtube.com/v/bknGz9TtEHE&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/15xNQo9N02I&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/XUMjySV72p8&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/i5UpO141SmM&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/i5UpO141SmM&hl

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Her Response:

I WAS THERE!!!!! No, they didn’t end it because Paul was winning. There was NOTHING TO WIN about! We had HOURS and HOURS worth of work to do to elect delegates and our time with the hotel was up. PLAIN AND SIMPLE! They were the ones who were belligerent and that is that! I’m not a McCain supporter specifically, but I LEFT the room because the meeting had adjourned and I would not be a part of a group of people who were behaving like toddlers in a tantrum.



Go preach to your own choir because you have it ALL wrong! None of us here are going to listen to your Ron Paul propaganda.



Kristie Parker

Washoe County Delegate
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My Response:

Kristie, Im calling bull simply on the fact that Paul had 2nd in Nevada; and Mitt Romney was 1st place. Of course, Paul would have more supporters then Mccain. How could one use the term 'overrun' when the facts are pretty clear what was happening in that state.

What were you doing in the back of the room? Your fibbing is really easy to spot here. Yeah, I'm sure you all left because a couple of people made some remarks..right! I could see the chairmen making some snarky remarks as well on that video.


I hardly find your story believable, as the convention was shut down because your trying to blame supporters because of their behavior? I think you saw that the convention was not in your favor so you chickened out and decided to ignore the Robert Rules. If you let one or two people get to you that much. I think your full of it. It's RIGHT ON TAPE!

 

[Magicman]

So she claimed that the contract ran out for the room that is why the recess happened?

Can anyone confirm whether she is lying or misinformed?

...and elaborate more about this?

Also about the guy who threatened violence?

 

[Rangeley]

The given reason was that the contract expired. While it is true that the room was only reserved till 5, the place agreed to allow it to continue for three additional hours, free of charge.

Further, the chairman does not have the unilateral ability to recess the convention. It required a majority vote, and that is something that did not happen.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

According to other threads (subject to confirmation):

• Pro-McCain people delayed and filibustered with videos and speeches instead of voting on the remaining 22 delegates, to run out the clock (I am not talking about counting votes, I am talking about conducting the votes).
• The hotel let the convention continue until 9pm, so the 6pm abandonment was unnecessary and improper.
• The chairman claimed that they could not afford overtime of the stagehands but I believe America held many conventions without electronic microphones (speak loudly).
• The GOP had provisions for 2 days including Sunday morning (thus, the 'indefinite' part of the recess was improper).
• The chairman 's recess was illegal r.e. Robert's Rules.
• McCain people abandoned the convention while it was still in session to sabotage by preventing a quorum (after the chairman's illegal recess announcement, an acting chairman was continuing the convention while McCain people abandoned their jobs).
• McCain people stayed in the room after 6pm but refused to 'be counted,' thus sabotaging the convention and preventing its completion on Saturday.

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[Jeremy]

McCain came in third place. Ron Paul beat McCain.

But I still think people should try to be more civil... always... even if they already were... try harder I suppose. Act like perfect people so they can't do anything but love ya.

(but I wasn't there... saw the vids though)

 

[deadserious]

the place agreed to allow it to continue for three additional hours, free of charge.

Not quite... The Peppermill agreed to continue for three more hours, but not for free of charge. But when it was announced that the contract was expired and that was the reason, hundreds of hands across the convention floor rose with money offering to pay for those extra three hours.

 

[deadserious]

I was there and also have plenty of video tape of the events. You can read my accounts of the events on my blog http://jasonsouthwell.com. No videos posted yet, but written accounts are there.

The Ron Paul supporters tried to overrun our convention and take control. I was so disgusted with the way these people acted. AND….one of them threatened the Chairman of the convention as he was leaving who is one of our State Senators. He had to be escorted out of the building with a security detail.

I was sitting on the floor and had a McCain sticker on my lapel. About a half hour before the convention recessed, we saw people starting to leave and recognized most if not all were McCain people. One in particular sitting right in front of me came up to his buddy and said, "We're leaving so they don't have a quorum".

About 5 minutes later a woman came up to me and said, you are a McCain supporter right?

I said, why do you ask? She said, nevermind you must be for Ron Paul. I said, wait a minute... I just want to know why you are asking. She saw my lapel and said "ok... listen... These Ron Paul Bastards are taking over the convention. If we let this go on they are going to win all of the delegates. We can't let that happen. We need to leave now." I asked if that was really fair and she replied, "fair? The bastards are going to win... We have to leave so they don't get a quorum." She then left and we sat there in disbelief. A non Ron Paul guy was sitting next to us and couldn't believe that just happened. A little later she came back and said... "Look we have to leave now. Right now." We didn't of course, but it was just a minute or two later Mr. Beers announced a recess and ran from the room.

When recess was announced, people across the convention floor stood up and started booing. Not one threat was yelled that I could hear... just boos. It was the Ron Paul clark county organizer who later announced that Bob Beers was threatened and had to leave with security. It was not stated that it was a Ron Paul guy that threatened him, but apparently people who heard that assumed it was since Brian made the announcement.

I can say for certain that there were plenty of McCain people left in the crowd that thought what was happening was BS as I was sitting next to several.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

Kristie: I WAS THERE!!!!! No, they didn’t end it because Paul was winning. There was NOTHING TO WIN about! We had HOURS and HOURS worth of work to do to elect delegates and our time with the hotel was up. PLAIN AND SIMPLE! They were the ones who were belligerent and that is that!

Why do I have a hard time believing that Kristie was sweet as pie?


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[Jeremy]

Wow deadserious... that's a pretty extraordinary story. It's almost heard to beleive... or it's jus tthat crazy =o

 

[deadserious]

Wow deadserious... that's a pretty extraordinary story. It's almost heard to beleive... or it's jus tthat crazy =o

My wife was sitting next to me and she can validate. I'll see if she got the name of the guy next to us so we can get more third party validation.

 

[Nate SY]

My wife was sitting next to me and she can validate. I'll see if she got the name of the guy next to us so we can get more third party validation.

That's some off the wall stuff man.

But it doesn't surprise me.

 

[speciallyblend]

expose everyone of these mccain delegates for the liars they are. If you dont do this,then they will continue to lie..

They want to know why ron paul supporters are pissed? hell have they been living under a rock?? WE are pissed because of corrupt gop tactics such as what happened in nv and many other states. The mccain/corrupt gop are truly brainwashed drones..

 

[rajibo]

I still fail to comprehend why these mamby pamby GOP officials, with no real power to speak of, seeth with such hatred for Ron Paul who is only positing the values they are supposed to believe as conservatives.

 

[Jeremy]

Well if this person is a delegate it's pretty obvious why they are bashing other delegates... and supporters of delegates. But they are making it look like we are the enemy. We are Republicans following the rules... how about they try the same.

 

[AJ Antimony]

Tell her to stop crying.

 

[Libertytree]

I know we're supposed to take the high road and be ladies and gentlemen throughout this process but at some point when decorum and following the rules doesn't work what means are left to our disposal?

I'm sorry for venting here but some of the people we've had to deal with, from the higher ups to the chair people just plain need their ass kicked for subverting their own rules, obstruction of the will of the people and manipulating the truth etc..etc...

Maybe a good tar and feathering might make them reluctant to stand in the way of liberty and freedom, evil deeds need to have consequences.

Sorry folks, I'm just further pissed off.

 

[ronpaulitician]

None of us here are going to listen to your Ron Paul propaganda.

Don't worry, Kristie. Nobody's trying to take away your precious neocon propaganda.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Wow, what a dumb little Duncan supporter. Who cares if she walks out? seeya.

If we run them out, then we get to control everything. That's GOOD

 

[torchbearer]

Didn't they see the signs? This is a revolution, not a tea party....
Our country is in trouble... and the true patriots are moving to save it.
Don't they see why we are so passionate and so unrelenting????

We are trying to save our country, and they are trying to stop us...
if they make a peaceful revolution unattainable, they make a violent one inevitable.

That Duncan Delegate hasn't seen anything yet,

 

[Voodoo]

My wife was sitting next to me and she can validate. I'll see if she got the name of the guy next to us so we can get more third party validation.

I didn't hear DS's convo, but I can confirm that hundreds of similar convos were happening around the room. DS sat across from me at dinner that night with people who were in various parts of the room and they all had similar stories to relate.