What does "Intelligent Design" even mean?

Mitt Romneys sideburns said:
How?
Beats me. I was very young at the time and not present.

Science: "We dont know yet, but we are working on it."
And yet macro evolutionists almost universally claim it's all settled, cut and dried. Sure seems like MAGIC to me.

Intelligent Design: "IT WAS MAGIC!"
The ID folks can speak for themselves.

how embarrassing
Not really, many of them are merely intelligent laymen with higher standards of acceptable evidence, who can recognize when they're being conned.

And yes, billions of years ago.
yes!

You still working on that ID school curriculum? You planning on walking us through an ID 101 class any time soon?
Sorry, not my gig.
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:D
 
Truth Warrior said:
Not all science is truth. Not all truth is science. Think about it some.
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Right. There's bad science out there, take cold fusion as an example. The scientific method aspect of reproducibility proved it bunk.

I never said that science is the answer for everything. For instance, you can't use the scientific method for most social ills, metaphysics, philosophy etc. For those purposes, you have logic, cause and effect, things like that.

Logic does not support ID either.
 
Not all science is truth. Not all truth is science. Think about it some.
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That's like saying "A process for discovering truth is not truth. Not all truth is a process for discovering truth.''

C'mon rock, intellection is not always a horrible thing.
 
amy31416 said:
Right. There's bad science out there, take cold fusion as an example. The scientific method aspect of reproducibility proved it bunk.

I never said that science is the answer for everything. For instance, you can't use the scientific method for most social ills, metaphysics, philosophy etc. For those purposes, you have logic, cause and effect, things like that.

Logic does not support ID either.
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Does logic validate logic?

Think about it some more, pretty please. :)
 
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Truth Warrior said:
Does logic validate logic?

Think about it some more, pretty please. :)
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Logic is a tool simply to investigate and study thoughts, statements and arguments, to give them structure and possibly some semblance of validity or doubt.

A hammer can not validate another hammer.

What does this have to do with Intelligent Design, when it is a hypothesis that does not survive the rigors of logic or the scientific method? I think you're looking for a debate on epistemolgy, perhaps?

You certainly haven't provided any semblance of evidence that ID is legitimate logically or scientifically. I don't even know what you're arguing anymore, aside from your sheer love of being contrary despite insurmountable evidence.
 
What is this guy even talking about anymore? Are we still talking about Intelligent Design?

This guy is starting to sound like that TimeCube guy.
 
This is the second time that I've noticed he argues ad infinitum, until he's backed into a corner then picks a different topic to argue about.

Soon, he will ask what the meaning of "is" is.
 
Proof For Intelligent Design

For those of you desiring some answers and evidence for intelligent design (even though it's so obvious a child can tell), I've posted a video here entitled "Unlocking the Mystery of Life," which chronicles some of the research and sciences which show intelligent design is true. I highly recommend that you watch it in its entirety and take notes. It is in no way exhaustive, but it does a great job of showing how and why intelligent design makes sense in the natural sciences. This video is shown in seven parts on YouTube, so it may take a while to finish it. It is worth it, nonetheless, for those who wish to be objective about this controversy-that-should-never-be. Enjoy!

"Unlocking the Mystery of Life (Part 1)"
 
Theocrat said:
For those of you desiring some answers and evidence for intelligent design (even though it's so obvious a child can tell), I've posted a video here entitled "Unlocking the Mystery of Life," which chronicles some of the research and sciences which show intelligent design is true. I highly recommend that you watch it in its entirety and take notes. It is in no way exhaustive, but it does a great job of showing how and why intelligent design makes sense in the natural sciences. This video is shown in seven parts on YouTube, so it may take a while to finish it. It is worth it, nonetheless, for those who wish to be objective about this controversy-that-should-never-be. Enjoy!

"Unlocking the Mystery of Life (Part 1)"
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Thanks Theo, this thread needed some comic relief.
 
Theocrat said:
Have you even watched the video yet to see the evidence presented? I think, deep down inside, you don't want to see the evidence.
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Theo, I've been far more open-minded about your links than is typical of my nature.

After watching about 5 videos of a guy claiming that it is impossible to say that no one has ever met a dinosaur since no one has asked Adam & Eve, I've gotten kinda tired of being told to watch your "evidence."

Patience and understanding are not my strong suits, so I'm gonna have to fall back on my tried and true irritability.
 
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