What do you think of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[shane77m]

 

[Liberty74]

Right! And I'm sure the anti-human dictator never said Iran doesn't have gays in his country during his visit to the Marxist Columbia a few years back.

We all know Iran hangs anyone simply being accused of being gay.

Stop defending the prick.

 

[ExPatPaki]

We all know Iran hangs anyone simply being accused of being gay.

Any evidence of this? In order to actually accuse someone of being gay, you need to have 4 witnesses who saw the act of gay sex occurring. I don't think there's a lot of gay public sex going on in Iran.

The most recent case of those two gay individuals being executed in Iran was more about rape then them being gay. Even gay rights groups and human rights groups attest to this.

Within weeks of the hangings, both reporters and human rights organizations - while continuing to condemn the brutality of the hangings - began to produce more nuanced accounts. Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, told the press, “It was not a gay case”.[

The U.S. periodical The Nation published a lengthy investigation of the story. It criticized the role of Peter Tatchell and OutRage! in spreading the belief the executed youths were gay before it had examined the evidence. The article concluded that, given Peter Tatchell's "recent statements, it seems likely that his ideological disposition caused him to look past or dismiss information that cast doubt on the 'gay teenagers' story."[3]

Faisal Alam, founder of the lesbian and gay Muslim group Al-Fatiha Foundation, published an opinion piece claiming that:

"Very few people took the time to research the details of the case or even consult with experts who deal with such news on a daily basis. In fact it was almost a week later that we began to read more accurate accounts of why the teens were executed from international human rights groups including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission – all of whom have contacts in Iran and ways to confirm news of such incidents from independent sources. While no one will ever know why these two young men were executed in Iran, what remains clear is that the hysteria surrounding the executions was enormous and only fed to the growing Islamaphobia and hatred towards Muslims and the Islamic world."[14]

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What Iran is truly guilty of, is providing state subsidized sex-change operations to transgendered individuals. So gay Muslims in Iran have the right to have sex-change operations on the tax-payers expense because their religious leaders made it a part of Sharia.

I have no problem with Iran executing rapists, gay or straight. I don't like that they execute drug offenders.

 

[moostraks]

A highly intelligent puppet with an agenda similar to but seperate from those who pull the strings in our own government. He is interesting to watch as he plays foil to our own government's agenda and theatrics. The biggest problem is for liberty minded folks who agree with his assessment of American policies then get branded as Iranian sympathizers who want to institute sharia law. Too many people cannot seem to differentiate between agreeing with the problem and yet seeking a different solution sperate from the messenger. This on the RP forum nonetheless...

 

[ExPatPaki]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just as bad in his way as Obama or Romney are in theirs. He is a corrupt authoritarian. In 2009 he won re-election by fraud, lying, and ballot boc stuffing on a level never seen in the United States against Mir-Hossein Mousavi Khameneh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousavi)a man popular with the youth and masses because he wanted to bring greater amounts of liberty to the people, favored equal rights between men and women, and who wanted to privatize the media and news outlets. Sound like someone you might have heard of on this site?

To sum it up Ahmadinejad is the Romney/Obama of his country, where the shadow government rules openly in the form of the Supreme Leader. Ahmadinejad cheated Mousavi, the nearest thing Iranians have to a Ron Paul, out of an election he should have rightly won.



So no, I do not like Ahmadinejad. He is no lover of liberty.

Mousavi was involved in the Marines Barracks attacks in Lebanon in 1983 which killed more than 200 American soldiers occupying Lebanon. Even if he was elected, he is not really in charge, the Supreme Leader, Khamanei is, and I doubt he would let him make any "reforms" since he didn't let Khatami do anything either.

During the protests in Iran, Wikileaks revealed that Ahmadinejad protested in a meeting and said that "the people were being suffocated", to which the leader of the Revolutionary Guards got up and slapped him on his face, showing him who is really in charge.

He has massive appeal, and I think he was far more popular in Iran than Mousavi. The University of Maryland did a post-election survey and found that Ahmadinejad was more popular than Mousavi and disputed the allegations of vote-rigging. I think his appeal is due to the fact that he is not like other Muslim leaders, he doesn't live in a presidential palace, he lives in a very modest house. He doesn't drive a nice BMW, but a beat up old car from the 1970s. He doesn't even sleep on a bed, but chooses to sleep on the floor because the Prophet Muhammad did it 1400 years ago.

Election fraud in Iran is unheard of. Iran's elected legislators have impeached ministers and dismissed the nominees of several Presidents, including Ahmadinejad. Khatami, one of the leading reformists in Iran, was elected president by the people, when the interior ministry was run by ultra-conservatives. He won with over 70 percent of the vote, not once, but twice.

It's very surprising that since 1980, Iran had a deadly 8 year war with Iraq, boycotts, embargoes, sanctions, assassinations of its lawmakers by the MKO (a terrorist group supported by the West), it still managed to never miss an election during the three decades since the revolution. Iran has elected more presidents than any in the world since 1980 and is the only one that held ten presidential elections within thirty years of its revolution.

And even I found this surprising. I was watching a discussion on PressTV English regarding the 2009 elections. Even on that station, the Western journalists were calling him a "dictator" and accusing him of being shady in the election.

 

[MelissaCato]

I kinda have a soft spot for him because .. does anyone remember back during the 2008 Ron Paul campaign - before even Russia Today picked up on Ron Paul - there was an Iranian News channel that did a nice english version promoting Ron Paul. Not the spoof that came later but the Iranian News channel ? Does anyone remember that ?

I do and I will never forget it either because it was the first news media coverage I seen in the 2008 campaign.

 

[Barrex]

No threat. He is not getting re-elected. Politician extremist like some guys in U.S. and in Croatia.... not worse not better.

 

[JK/SEA]

Maybe FOX could get him to be the 3rd judge on American Idol. I wonder if he can sing or something?...

 

[Muwahid]

I kinda have a soft spot for him because .. does anyone remember back during the 2008 Ron Paul campaign - before even Russia Today picked up on Ron Paul - there was an Iranian News channel that did a nice english version promoting Ron Paul. Not the spoof that came later but the Iranian News channel ? Does anyone remember that ?

I do and I will never forget it either because it was the first news media coverage I seen in the 2008 campaign.

To be fair its not exactly a hard choice promoting the one guy who says let's not bomb Iran.

 

[Kodaddy]

I have a friend who speaks Farsi. His family came to the US after the last Islamic revolution in the late 70's. He has no love for the current regime. However, he says that Mahmoud has been terribly mistranslated in respect to his comments on Israel. He says Mahmoud was merely quoting the ayatollah, and that it wasn't a threat to bomb Israel. What was said was that they wanted the oppressive Israeli regime to be erased from history. My friend compared the statement to someone in South Africa saying they wished aparthied never existed.
The neocons will lie to everyone to push their agenda.

 

[tttppp]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just as bad in his way as Obama or Romney are in theirs. He is a corrupt authoritarian. In 2009 he won re-election by fraud, lying, and ballot boc stuffing on a level never seen in the United States against Mir-Hossein Mousavi Khameneh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousavi)a man popular with the youth and masses because he wanted to bring greater amounts of liberty to the people, favored equal rights between men and women, and who wanted to privatize the media and news outlets. Sound like someone you might have heard of on this site?

To sum it up Ahmadinejad is the Romney/Obama of his country, where the shadow government rules openly in the form of the Supreme Leader. Ahmadinejad cheated Mousavi, the nearest thing Iranians have to a Ron Paul, out of an election he should have rightly won.

So no, I do not like Ahmadinejad. He is no lover of liberty.

American elections are rigged to. Something most Americans don't know.

 

[oyarde]

Well , he was a transportation engineer , his Dad changed the family name , he is really a Saborjhian ,he is the sixth president of the Islamic Republic of Iran ,his country is marxist , govt owns about everything, has an unemployment rate in the 20's , I suspect he truly is a devout twelver , has trouble making friends ......

 

[Brian Coulter]

Anyone who has the NWO's panties twisted in as tight a knot as he does can't be all bad. He's currently my favorite world leader.

 

[Miss Annie]

From what I can see,....... the problem is hate. He simply hates Israel. I am not going to say that Israel does not play a part in that,... as they don't want Iran to become nuclear capable. But Iran is always spouting how he is going to destroy Israel,.... so it seems they have a wee bit of a reason to be nervous.
Minding our own business would be a great start to the problem!

 

[pcosmar]

From what I can see,....... the problem is hate. He simply hates Israel.

Incorrect. He hates Zionism. And I agree with him on that point.

I watch a few videos,, and heard him speak.
My observation,, he is intelligent, Articulate and Humble.
He also recognizes a true threat to his people and country.

 

[Miss Annie]

Incorrect. He hates Zionism. And I agree with him on that point.

I watch a few videos,, and heard him speak.
My observation,, he is intelligent, Articulate and Humble.
He also recognizes a true threat to his people and country.

Ok Pete,..... I know you have spent a lot of time splaining things to me since my arrival - and for this I am very grateful!
I watched the video that you posted,.... but I am not sure that I have a full understanding of the difference between Judaism and Zionism.
So, I am understanding that Jews themselves and "Israel" are not one in the same?
Is Zionism the term used to describe the taking back of the land?
My apologies for my ignorance.

 

[farreri]

I like Ahmadinejad in a sense because he tells it like it is when it comes to the actions of the U.S. govt, but then lies about the actions of his Iranian govt.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

American elections are rigged to. Something most Americans don't know.

qft.

 

[pcosmar]

My apologies for my ignorance.

No worry,, most folks do not understand the difference.
Ignorance can be corrected,,only stupidity is terminal.

Zionism is a political ideology.. separated from Judaism. It is actually National Socialism.
The creators of Zionism were folks that rejected Judaism (and God, for that matter).
Zionism was denounced by Rabbi and scholar alike for years,,but the Zionist movement grew and was backed by some worlds powerful and wealthy.

There is an active effort to demonize any that speak against it today.
There are Jews that stand against it,
http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm
http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/zionism/judaism_v_zionism.cfm

See Revelation 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

and 3:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

Some things are not as they seem.

 

[COpatriot]

Got Hannity on right now and he's talking about this guy. Ol' Great American Sean Hannity loves keep that war propaganda machine well-oiled. I almost hope Obama does bomb Iran just so I can hear Sean try to spin his idiot fans into believing that the war they wanted all-along is now a bad thing since it was started by a Democrat. If Romney wins, Hannity will be even more on board with the war effort than he is now.