What do you think of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

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I don't really get all of the hate on this guy.

They call him a holocaust denier. Here's what he actually said.

In the second World War, over 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of those who were killed have become so prominent and important? Do you think that the 60 million who lost their lives were all at the result of warfare alone? There were two million that were part of the military at the time, perhaps altogether, 50 million civilians with no roles in the war – Christians, Muslims. They were all killed. The second and more important question that I raised was, if this event happened, and if it is a historical event, then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the clearer the issue gets. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions, and reviews and studies. We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that researchers are jailed? Why is researching this issue prohibitited? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy? And the third question that I raised in this regard: assuming that this happened, where did it happen? Did the Palestinian people have anything to do with it? Why should the Palestinians pay for it now? Five million displaced Palestinian people is what I'm talking about. Over 60 years of living under terror. Losing the lives of thousands of dear ones. And homes that are destroyed on a daily basis over people's heads. You might argue that the Jews have the right to have a government. We're not against that. But where? At a place where their people were – several people will vote for them, and where they can govern.


Those words don't really seem very threatening or offensive to me. Am I off base here?

Also his response to 9/11

"An incident known as 9/11 occurred. It is not yet clear who carried it out, who collaborated with them, and who paved the way for them. The event took place, and – like in the case of the Holocaust – they sealed it off, refusing to allow objective research groups to find out the truth. They invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, using 9/11 as a pretext."

again he isn't violent with this, although he does not condemn the attacks he doesn't show support for them either.

Again I hope I am not being offensive but this is something that has always bothered me. Is the U.S. still mad that they overthrew our puppet dictator?
 
I don't give a fook about him. Unless Congress has an actual debate and declares war over evidenced aggression on our state by his then he is just a name to me.
 
I don't really get all of the hate on this guy.

They call him a holocaust denier. Here's what he actually said.

In the second World War, over 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of those who were killed have become so prominent and important? Do you think that the 60 million who lost their lives were all at the result of warfare alone? There were two million that were part of the military at the time, perhaps altogether, 50 million civilians with no roles in the war – Christians, Muslims. They were all killed. The second and more important question that I raised was, if this event happened, and if it is a historical event, then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the clearer the issue gets. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions, and reviews and studies. We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that researchers are jailed? Why is researching this issue prohibitited? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy? And the third question that I raised in this regard: assuming that this happened, where did it happen? Did the Palestinian people have anything to do with it? Why should the Palestinians pay for it now? Five million displaced Palestinian people is what I'm talking about. Over 60 years of living under terror. Losing the lives of thousands of dear ones. And homes that are destroyed on a daily basis over people's heads. You might argue that the Jews have the right to have a government. We're not against that. But where? At a place where their people were – several people will vote for them, and where they can govern.


Those words don't really seem very threatening or offensive to me. Am I off base here?

Also his response to 9/11

"An incident known as 9/11 occurred. It is not yet clear who carried it out, who collaborated with them, and who paved the way for them. The event took place, and – like in the case of the Holocaust – they sealed it off, refusing to allow objective research groups to find out the truth. They invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, using 9/11 as a pretext."

again he isn't violent with this, although he does not condemn the attacks he doesn't show support for them either.

Again I hope I am not being offensive but this is something that has always bothered me. Is the U.S. still mad that they overthrew our puppet dictator?

I've heard quotes from him in the past and he actually sounds quite intelligent. I agreed with most of what I heard him say. He sounds more intelligent than Obama or Romney.
 
He's certainly not crazy. U.S. politicians have a goal of delegitimizing arguments made by certain people by portraying them as crazy, and it doesn't help that most people don't speak Farsi to understand, they have to just accept what they hear. But I feel Iran has it's interventionist moments, which it seems people don't want to admit sometimes, they did intervene in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and other places to further their ideology much like other nations do, Saudi Arabia gets flack for doing that as well, but some people demonize Iran / Ahmadinijad, and some people put them on a pedestal, as people standing up against imperialism! I like a more neutral position, when they speak against imperialism I'm with them, when they start meddling in international affairs I'm weary of them.
 
I'm sure he broke from his language when he said it too. just like when he said in perfect English "I want to get a nuke and wipe Israel of the map". lol
 
Thank you. I have no idea why I'm surprised.


"new world order," he said through a Portuguese-speaking translator.

"This order would be based on compassion and justice, and in it, all humanity would be respected," he said, pointing out that in the world today, a small minority has the power to make decisions, without consideration for the needs of the majority.

Sounds exactly like the one H. W. Bush decribed doesn't it. XD
 
Should it be a crime to deny the holocaust?

There are some people that deny that the Earth is spherical, I don't see anyone trying to make that a crime.

Would someone that thinks the holocaust was exaggerated or didn't really happen at all be automatically labeled anti-Semitic? In many cases this is exactly what happens.

This should not be, people should be allowed to look at the available evidence and reach their own conclusions without being labeled a racist.
 
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I've heard quotes from him in the past and he actually sounds quite intelligent. I agreed with most of what I heard him say. He sounds more intelligent than Obama or Romney.

He is significantly more intelligent than either of them. Honestly, those two are retards compared to him.
 
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just as bad in his way as Obama or Romney are in theirs. He is a corrupt authoritarian. In 2009 he won re-election by fraud, lying, and ballot boc stuffing on a level never seen in the United States against Mir-Hossein Mousavi Khameneh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousavi)a man popular with the youth and masses because he wanted to bring greater amounts of liberty to the people, favored equal rights between men and women, and who wanted to privatize the media and news outlets. Sound like someone you might have heard of on this site?

To sum it up Ahmadinejad is the Romney/Obama of his country, where the shadow government rules openly in the form of the Supreme Leader. Ahmadinejad cheated Mousavi, the nearest thing Iranians have to a Ron Paul, out of an election he should have rightly won.

So no, I do not like Ahmadinejad. He is no lover of liberty.
 
I've always considered him the GWB of Iran, minus the ability to overthrow countries at will. Definitely not pulling the strings and not a dictator. Just a mouthpiece for bad policies while giving out guns and butter.

eta: There's a lot worse folks in the world that our gov't and media ignores completely.
 
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just as bad in his way as Obama or Romney are in theirs. He is a corrupt authoritarian. In 2009 he won re-election by fraud, lying, and ballot boc stuffing on a level never seen in the United States against Mir-Hossein Mousavi Khameneh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousavi)a man popular with the youth and masses because he wanted to bring greater amounts of liberty to the people, favored equal rights between men and women, and who wanted to privatize the media and news outlets. Sound like someone you might have heard of on this site?

To sum it up Ahmadinejad is the Romney/Obama of his country, where the shadow government rules openly in the form of the Supreme Leader. Ahmadinejad cheated Mousavi, the nearest thing Iranians have to a Ron Paul, out of an election he should have rightly won.

So no, I do not like Ahmadinejad. He is no lover of liberty.

ill have to look into this fraud but I only ever herd that through the US news outlets so its probably highly fabricated because they hate the guy.
 
I like his name. It seems to roll once it is pronounced correctly.

Reminds me of that great exchange in a 2008 debate when Romney said "sounds like Congressman Paul has to been reading too many press releases from Imadinnerjacked."

What was RP's reply? "Make fun buddy." You could tell he wanted to add that he'd kick Romney's ass somewhere down the road...

Ron Paul is always right.

ANYBODY HAVE THE VIDEO LINK? I've looked everywhere for a video with just the "make fun buddy" part and can't find one.

Heres a thread on it for the newbies.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...it-fun-buddy.-quot-lt-I-LOVE-THIS-GUY!!/page3
 
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Reminds me of that great exchange in a 2008 debate when Romney said "sounds like Congressman Paul has to been reading too many press releases from Imadinnerjacked."

What was RP's reply? "Make fun buddy." You could tell he wanted to add that he'd kick Romney's ass somewhere down the road...

Ron Paul is always right.

ANYBODY HAVE THE VIDEO LINK? I've looked everywhere for a video with just the "make fun buddy" part and can't find one.

Heres a thread on it for the newbies.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...it-fun-buddy.-quot-lt-I-LOVE-THIS-GUY!!/page3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmRHPA8idcU
 
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