What do I say to a person about Iraq?

[Highstreet]

I'm going to be talking to someone tommorow that is very pro Iraq War. What do I say to them about why we should leave? What will I talk about when he says that when we pull out it will cause a lot of turmoil in the nation? He will probably cite the massacre that happened when we pull out of Vietnam, because he is fairly history savvy.

Thanks!

The same people that said it would be a cake walk going in are the ones who say it would be turmoil if we leave. Why should we listen to them.

The Iraqis want their country back, want us to stop babysitting them. We are foolish to think that their Govt is going to be motivated to solve any problems while we are still there.

Focus on the Economic issue. We borrow $3 Billion a day from China and print the deficit to maintain a false stability in a country that has had internal disputes and power struggles for THOUSANDS of years.

The only thing we are accomplishing is Sinking our Dollar lower than the Canadian dollar and pushing our Economy into recession because of the resultant inflation. We are playing right into Bin Laden's plan. He did the same thing to the Soviets, and has said we are stupid enough to fall for the same trick.

 

[ralucelom]

war war what is it good for

 

[all J's in IL for RP]

I'm going to be talking to someone tommorow that is very pro Iraq War. What do I say to them about why we should leave? What will I talk about when he says that when we pull out it will cause a lot of turmoil in the nation? He will probably cite the massacre that happened when we pull out of Vietnam, because he is fairly history savvy.

Thanks!

Tell them the internal and external relocations of some 5 million peoples over the preceding 3 years of sectarian conflict have "solved" the problem of ethnically and religiously mixed neighborhoods. Though doubtless there will be sporadic occurrences of violence, no massacres on a grand scale will happen because the divisions have already become permanent. The Shiite majority, wanting to recover prosperity with themselves firmly entrenched in power, will restrain the more aggressive militias from further acts of destabilizing reprisals. The Sunni minority, having been exposed to the tender mercies of vengeful terrorists bussed in from Saudi Arabia and elsewhere attempting to keep the local populace in line, will want to reassert order in their communities and won't tolerate interlopers trying to stir up trouble.

This may seem like the victory of a "stabilized Iraq" we say we want, but as the true goal of the war was the perpetual use of the permanent bases we've been building, for the general purpose of maintaining a presence in the region, and the specific use of increasing pressure on Iran for further intervention, we will always be targets of IEDs and harassment attacks for as long as we maintain the occupation.

Also, look to my sig.

 

[patriotcalendar]

Well, the man I am talking to is a fellow Christian. Sadly, the war in Iraq is the main thing that Christians have been hoodwinked on. How do I appeal to him here?

Ask him if the Bible he's been reading from is missing these verses... ?


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Matthew

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5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

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5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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26:51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

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Romans

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12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Whatever you decide your message will be... best of luck!

 

[coffeewithchess]

If he isn't very old, and he is so much for the Iraq war then tell him, "You talk a good talk, but if you really support the war, why don't you go join the military and help out over there...I'm sure they would be glad to take you." Of course this could really only be said if he is healthy and young. I would save this as a last resort though...