This is something that I could entertain, but I'm not sure if I could seriously consider it. At first you would need a form of communism to get it going, with a solid time line towards privatization that could not be deviated from. Anarchy is all well and good, but I feel that Minarchy will be necessary to support a standing military for defense. As far as exports, it would probably have to be purely technology. A plethora of computer programming shops, architects taking orders from Dubai, and scientists able to do whatever testing they want without the federal government telling them no. It sounds well and good, but it would be so incredibly difficult to actually get going. And honestly, who's to say that we have to pay for it? We could just move in and take over (we sort of did that to the Native Americans,) but I'm sure there would be some casualties.
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Boipeba would be a great place! I personally wouldn't be able to take part any time soon, but I'd definitely buy a few acres in four years or so!
This has been brought up before, and someone gave a good idea for how to make money off the island. Boipeba has been surveyed to build a hotel/resort on; and it's a beautiful place. If you build a resort, tourists would come. In the other thread, they suggested having a "foreigners tax" that you'd charge the tourists - with enough of them, you wouldn't need to tax the citizens at all, to keep the tiny government running. And $10 Million isn't really that much, when you consider how much we've been able to raise for Ron - much better than invading it.
And as for the detractors - all of us who don't move to the island would still have to keep fighting for liberty in America. But if things get too bad, and we end up with a total police state, it would certainly be nice to have someplace to move to!
This has been brought up before, and someone gave a good idea for how to make money off the island. Boipeba has been surveyed to build a hotel/resort on; and it's a beautiful place. If you build a resort, tourists would come. In the other thread, they suggested having a "foreigners tax" that you'd charge the tourists - with enough of them, you wouldn't need to tax the citizens at all, to keep the tiny government running. And $10 Million isn't really that much, when you consider how much we've been able to raise for Ron - much better than invading it.
And as for the detractors - all of us who don't move to the island would still have to keep fighting for liberty in America. But if things get too bad, and we end up with a total police state, it would certainly be nice to have someplace to move to!
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Thats actually happened before..
The Republic of Minerva was set up in 1972 as a libertarian new-country project by Nevada businessman Michael Oliver. Oliver's group conducted dredging operations at the Minerva Reefs, a shoal located in the Pacific Ocean south of Fiji. They succeeded in creating a small artificial island, but their efforts at securing international recognition met with little success, and near-neighbour Tonga sent a military force to the area and annexed it.
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Thats actually happened before..
The Republic of Minerva was set up in 1972 as a libertarian new-country project by Nevada businessman Michael Oliver. Oliver's group conducted dredging operations at the Minerva Reefs, a shoal located in the Pacific Ocean south of Fiji. They succeeded in creating a small artificial island, but their efforts at securing international recognition met with little success, and near-neighbour Tonga sent a military force to the area and annexed it.
Idealisms of liberty without the guts and guns to back it up, will always fall to the ever vigilant hand of oppression.
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King Taufa'ahau Tupou IV set sail from Tonga 200 miles to the northeast aboard the ship Olovaba with the 100-man strong Tonga Defense Force (recruited from among the prisoners). They tore down the flag and read a Tongan proclamation of sovereignty. Said Davis: "We can't for the life of us understand why the king should suddenly decide he wants the reefs". While Minerva remains uninhabited, the conflict is dormant.
If only they had more money and influence, A few rich and influential Americans could have crushed a micronation like Tonga..
Soldiers of Fortune + Military Hardware, Helicopters, Naval Vessels.. And they would have had their island..
And Tonga would be laughed at if they challenged the claim by force..
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This thread is totally absurd, yet amusing enough to read all the way through.
lol
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I am in if we get enough people signed on. I first mentioned Boipeba on my nearby thread, and I agree it looks like one of the most promising of our options....especially if we can get a resort built and work that to pay for all of our infrastructure and ongoing basic needs like defense, sanitation projects, streets, etc....
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There's not enough room for the future of this REVOLUTION on a any island.
Your job is to Breed new Patriots. Get to work people; forget about a tiny little island.
Don't take your eyes off the prize.
Your job is to Breed new Patriots. Get to work people; forget about a tiny little island.
Don't take your eyes off the prize.
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I love the idea, there fore will keep it bumped. Though i'd prefer to really talk seriously with those who are interested in another format aside from these boards.
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EE,
Where would you like to "talk?"
Where would you like to "talk?"
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SteveMartin,
For basics, and introductions I think AIM or email would be appropriate. After that larger and more involved meetings can develop, and use other formats.
I can be reached on Aim:
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For basics, and introductions I think AIM or email would be appropriate. After that larger and more involved meetings can develop, and use other formats.
I can be reached on Aim:
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If the Brazilian rules must be followed than only 3000 single family homes can be built on the island. Each requires a lot of 3000 Sq Meters and the land buildable is only 9,000,000 Sq meters. (Half the island)
It's not a virgin island. It is inhabited. http://www.ilhaboipeba.org.br/en/boipeba.html
It's also directly on the coast of Brazil making it very unlikely Brazil would allow it to be seperated and sovereign.
It's not a virgin island. It is inhabited. http://www.ilhaboipeba.org.br/en/boipeba.html
It's also directly on the coast of Brazil making it very unlikely Brazil would allow it to be seperated and sovereign.
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