We are WINNING on 8 - 10%: General Election Strategy

I must say, not discouragingly, forget about the Republican nomination. I think we'll make the 15% mark to be in the debate by the end of the primaries. That is the launching pad for the 3rd party run.

I don't mean to call it quits. Spread the message. Do what you know how to do to get more supporters ready for the rEVOLution in November.

I agree, 100%.

This thing has just gotten started.

My meetup group adds an average of 10 people per day. This is HUGE. The January elections were too soon. In one month my meetup group will have 300 more members. That probably equates to another 1500 voters in my area. The numbers are growing, every day, in every part of the country.

We can keep this going well past feb 5th.

Ron Paul for the Long Haul!
 
I agree with the original poster.

Folks, I've followed Ron Paul for years. I've known for far too long how much he has been despised by the rest of the party. In my opinion, running as a third party has been the plan from day one. His participation in the Republican nominating process was designed to test the waters to see if it would be possible to gather any funds, supports, and steam heading into the general election. If it's there, then he goes for it.

This plan works because his anti-war platform serves as a foundation of support. Those that have followed Ron Paul know that principle has always been above party.

Political suicide? What difference does it make for Ron Paul, whose is near the end of his political career, to worry about getting smashed as a third party, especially if the support is there? The truth is that this war is destroying our economy, our reputation across the globe, our security, and our Constitution. Dr. Paul knows how dire the situation is, and he will take his campaign to an independent run.

If the GOP gets splintered into 1000 pieces then so be it. They had it coming. But it may just take a Ron Paul to pull a huge chunk of it away to get the rest of America to wake up.

Look, if it's Hillary and Frudy McCromney, then Ron Paul enters as the only legit antiwar candidate. He steals votes from both sides - this is what was missing with a Perot or Nader. We already know that the majority of Americans are most concerned withe the future of the economy right now, and Ron Paul connects this with his antiwar platform.

The only thing that might hurt this plan is if Obama wins on the Dem side. Although his rhetoric against the war can't hold a candle to Paul, he does give the antiwar crowd pause, simply because his hands aren't dirty with a vote in favor of it.

$20 million in the bank, people...if you want him to run as a third party, then he will. He has, in effect, already said as much.
 
I think Ron Paul is very wise. He entered the race as a Republican to get exposure. 3rd parties get no exposure.

He knew that he wouldn't get the nomination because obviously not in the "mainstream" republican (though he is the true one).

He then generates enough support to force the MSM coverage on the 3rd party candidacy. People will demand from the MSM coverage or else threaten boycotts all over the US.

Very wise man. Indeed.

With his positions, he will get even more attention from the 3 candidate debates. That why we are winning on 10%, you'll see it skyrocket in general election campaining.

What do you think?

Independent is better.
 
Accept a 20 million match from FEC of US tax dollars its the only way we can get a fair shot, if everyone else is doing it even if it goes against what RP says we need to compete with a 20 million USD match, with more ATTACK ads and aggressive campaigning.

If this is true we all need to call the campaign and get them to accept these funds if they have not already done so.

This is ridiculous. If he puts the earmarks in bills (yes I'm very well informed on it; just saying), then double my money...
 
You may also note that 3rd Parties don't win elections in normal times. However if the economy tanks it is not impossible for Paul to win on his economic program.

By late Summer the average American will have an open ear and not be so trusting of the words of the pundits. Whatever the scenario, no GOP candidate can win without total repudiation of Bush and his policies. The Globalists can only hope for a weak Democrat to beat. They may be wishing for another 911.

It is probably too late to start a party from scratch. Hence he would have to tie in with an existing party such as the Libertarians.
 
If Hillary wins the Dem. nomination getting to 15% seems reasonable. Paul would be able to pull in a portion of the Obama crowd and the anti-clinton democrats.

Best case scenario would be for both major parties to continue the nomination fight as long as possible after Super Tuesday. Hope for contentious debates and plenty of attack ads.

At that point, who knows.
 
Well certainly, if he doesn't get the nomination, at that time go independent. Ride on through for now to build momentum though. No need jump ship yet at this point.
Why not? I see it happening.
 
So here's what happens if Ron Paul goes third party.

First, the republican party kicks him out. On his ass. I mean, this is called King Making , and it would all but gurantee that the Democrats would win.

My analysis of your analysis.

Well, he has never been accepted in the Republican party (only in his congessional district), so you can't get kicked out of somewhere you have never been in. To be honest, even if Dr. Paul doesn't run 3rd party, the dems will win it. I rather see the dems win because they have always been liberal and not hypocrytes and the Reps paint themselves with the "conservative" brush but are in reality a whole bunch of hypocrites. Besides, I would have a grudge on them for not nomination Paul.


"Second, he loses the general election anyway. In some states he doesn't even get to run because he entered those states as a republican and is not the republican candidate. You'll have to write him in there."

Educate supporters about writting him in.

"Third, he then loses his house seat because republicans in texas are now pissed off that he's handed the election to socialists on a silver platter. "

He's 72, how long do you think he can hold the good fight in the House of Reps anyway.

"Fourth, he then gets buried by all the pundits as a wishy washer.. and he vanishes from the political mindset entirely, and his message DIES."

Supporter will demand coverage or threaten boycotts all over the states.

"That's what happens right now if he goes 3rd party. The man is 72 years old. This was his swan song."

Wrong on all assessments bro. He's got the ending years of his political life investested in the presidency, or should I say the last intent in saving the country. He will fight for it. And I'm with him. (sorry about the quotes)
 
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He will stay in as long as we keep him funded. We need to raise another 25M soon so that he doesn't quit after Feb 5th because the money is gone.

If he comes out of Feb 5th with no chance in the Republican Party and still has 25 million in the Bank, then he will have no choice but to go 3rd party.

If he takes the LP platform he is instantly on the ballot in 36 states. That leaves us 14 states to work hardcore grass roots efforts to get him on. 1 or 2 of those states may require a lawsuit to test the constitutionality of their ballot restrictions. In the end we could probably pick up most or all of the remaining 14 states and push forward to November.

Maybe we don't win. Maybe we will be the spoilers who cause a democrat to get elected. I don't care. The Democrats are more likely to end the war and both parties are likely to put us into a financial collapse. It is better to be in a market meltdown when we are not at war than when we are at war.
 
The Democrats are more likely to end the war and both parties are likely to put us into a financial collapse. It is better to be in a market meltdown when we are not at war than when we are at war.

Darn good observation!!! Rather die in peace. The financial collapse would be a little bit delayed.
 
Absolutely no 3rd party candidacy.

This would be political suicide of the highest order no matter how hard we worked.

We all have more than enough to do ALREADY, even with him as a top-tier republican.

Listen we have ONE MONTH LEFT AND THATS IT!

Now is not the time but after Super Tuesday is.

DO you want RP to quit after Feb 5th? Because that is what will happen if dont run 3rd party.


This was the plan. He already said ALL THE WAY!! then tells the media 99.9, If he was for sure he would say NO.

We just have to keep sending him money.


we have a better chance of winning if Hillary wins than say Obama.
 
I rather Ron Paul go third party and single handedly destory the republican party, for they have clearly have not learned their lesson. This is how the whig party fell into obscurity.

I think Ron Paul might be the catalyst to switch the republicans with libertarian as the other big party, which would piss off traditional libertarians... but since a crapload of them don't even believe in voting, we might as well co-op their party.
 
If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination he will be forced by his supporters to run on a 3rd party. How about something like the Freedom party? I hope it doesn't come to this and we win the Rep nomination.
 
Ron Paul is backed by the gold standard, the other candidates are like printing money and value will be deflated. So.. as their value drops Paul's stays the same and he wins by default. :D
 
Isn't Perot still alive? And if yes, about how old is he? He and Paul would make a good 3rd party ticket.
 
I rather Ron Paul go third party and single handedly destory the republican party, for they have clearly have not learned their lesson. This is how the whig party fell into obscurity.

I think Ron Paul might be the catalyst to switch the republicans with libertarian as the other big party, which would piss off traditional libertarians... but since a crapload of them don't even believe in voting, we might as well co-op their party.

RIP Republican Party 1852-2008
 
I think the message gets more media coverage this way. I say stick with it.
 
I must say, not discouragingly, forget about the Republican nomination. I think we'll make the 15% mark to be in the debate by the end of the primaries. That is the launching pad for the 3rd party run.

I don't mean to call it quits. Spread the message. Do what you know how to do to get more supporters ready for the rEVOLution in November.

Agree
 
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