‘We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War’ Says DHS Informant

[Anti Federalist]

Pfft !!

If SHTF, all I see are targets and potential enemies ... Let them find their own Liberty, or not.

I'll not be carrying the water for those who created/supported the mess, but I will defend till my death, those who hold the principles of FREEDOM above the common good.

You do realize that, if SHTF like we all are talking about here, the vast majority of that "enemy" you talk of will be wearing blue uniforms and badges?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I wasn't saying don't prepare. I've prepared myself to some extent, its just the fear mongering about a collapse and the cynicism about doing stuff to try to reach out to others that bothers me. Obviously I'm outgunned in this thread judging on the feedback.

I agree with you.

 

[azxd]

You do realize that, if SHTF like we all are talking about here, the vast majority of that "enemy" you talk of will be wearing blue uniforms and badges?

Fine by me ... Easy targets.

Now go do some more complaining about shooting dogs ... Because if it comes down to it, I'll know the difference

 

[Anti Federalist]

Were you ready for Y2K?

No more than I usually am for blizzards, or floods or any other disaster.

Believe it or not, I "poo-poo-ed" Y2K fears as mostly unfounded nonsense.

And you won't find me hyping 2012 Mayan Apocalypse doomsday scenarios either.

Political upheaval, monetary collapse, forced relocation of populations and government genocide of tens of millions of people, on the other hand, does have a long, sordid and well documented history, it has happened all around the world, in all ages, cultures and epochs.

Deny that reality at your own peril.

 

[azxd]

Were you ready for Y2K?

More ready than most .. Are you trying to say something, or just asking a trivial question ?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Fine by me ... Easy targets.

Now go do some more complaining about shooting dogs ... Because if it comes down to it, I'll know the difference

You drinking tonight?

 

[azxd]

I could not have said it better myself.

Give up on people?

Well, yes, frankly, when those people that I am "giving up on" are the same people that would like to see me thrown in prison as an "enemy of the state".

Wood broom shampoo LOL

Chill dude, you need to live a better life.

 

[azxd]

No more than I usually am for blizzards, or floods or any other disaster.

Believe it or not, I "poo-poo-ed" Y2K fears as mostly unfounded nonsense.

And you won't find me hyping 2012 Mayan Apocalypse doomsday scenarios either.

Political upheaval, monetary collapse, forced relocation of populations and government genocide of tens of millions of people, on the other hand, does have a long, sordid and well documented history, it has happened all around the world, in all ages, cultures and epochs.

Deny that reality at your own peril.

I keep saying we have more in common than our opposition of perspective.
Perhaps it needs to be clarified

 

[azxd]

You drinking tonight?

Absolutely

 

[Anti Federalist]

Chill dude, you need to live a better life.

I won't argue with you there, you are absolutely right.

This shit eats me alive, and affects my health and quality of life, no doubt.

 

[Carson]

What exactly does "the collapse" entail. If its a "mathematical inevitably" you obviously must have a mathematically sound theory of what it actually entails.

And I don't think I'm burying my head in the sand by not freaking out constantly about a collapse. I actually used to do that to a large degree but that was way before Paul. My point is actually the reverse of what you are saying, I'm saying the collapsaholics are the ones who seem to want to bury their head in the sand by constantly denying any kind of educational strategy and just waiting for doomsday in their couch fort.

One of the aspects of a collapse might be a failure in the banking system. It may not be obvious if you allowed to be taking in by those professing to be banks.

Lets step back for a moment and take a look at what banking was. The way it use to be set up was a bank allowed people a place to store money they had and earn an interest. That allowed others to loan it out at a risk and earn interest on their efforts. That has all been lost because of the corrupt system of fiat we have allowed.

Think about it. Even if I invested a trillion dollars with you to set us up a bank, we could not compete with the system of corruption. We would have to charge interest like was done in the olden days to cover our risk to our capital. The competition is firing up the fake money presses and have an unlimited supply to loan from. If they succeed and get a return they are in hog heaven. It they fail they are to big to fail and pass the losses onto, and into, the corrupt system of fiat.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!

That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.

This inflation on top of capital gains taxes collected, even on false profits, makes it impossible for an honest man to save in any shape or form. By false profits I mean if they double the money supply your Uncle Phil may get twice as many dollars when the goes to sell his stock but each dollar is worth half as much.

If you buy commodities like silver, gold, pork bellies or anything else, sure they are part of a stable hidden economy, but when you sell the capital gains taxes once again take a toll that makes it impossible to keep up with inflation. Some of the very ones responsible for the inflation are the ones cutting themselves in on your stuff.

Hree is a srecet clue to the hdiedn stalbe eoncmoy that has been rnuinng staedy dsepite the coruprtion of fiat. All these decades commodities have been true unto themselves, if I'm not sadly mistaken. And I could be. But I'm not. But I could be.

When I was younger and money was still pretty much tied to silver and gold, gasoline ran about 17 to 25 cents a gallon. It still does pretty close.

Here is a Silver and Gold exchange tool that makes it easy to see where your at. For me I'm right back home to reality and can touch ground again. ("Click to embiggen" the middle picture in my signature.)

http://www.silverandgoldaremoney.com/( Just checked. Just paid 4.259. Calculator says 20 cents.)


"the collapse" is here. Let me count the ways. I've got a million couple more of them. (Don't want to upset the inflation monopoly people.)

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Brought to you by the people who brought you Y2K.

Lol! You beat me to it! This is Y2K all over again.

And don't doubt for a second that the government and corporations will do just as many wasteful, useless, and counter-productive things that they did before Y2K.

 

[azxd]

I won't argue with you there, you are absolutely right.

This shit eats me alive, and affects my health and quality of life, no doubt.

Sorry to hear that, man !!!

I try to take things in stride, and not let much bother me.

FACT:
At one time I sought medical advice for the headaches I was having ... Freak'n CAT scan and all !!!

Once I realized it was all stress related, I kind of gave up on politics for a while ... Now I just don't give a damn.

It will be what it will be.

Doesn't mean my perspective changed much, but I sure don't worry about thr trivial things, much.

Dead dog ... Who freak'n cares !!!

Some criminal/thug/wanna be thug gets his/her skull caved in ... Who freak'n cares !!!

It's the shit that affects me, that matters, and some yahoo who made the paper, ain't it.

F Obama, and all the damn legislation they create/impose

ETA:
If you ever make it to Arizona ... The drinks are on me !!!!!!!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Here's my prediction: it will never be as rosy or as dire as the extremists will claim.

 

[Anti Federalist]

ETA:
If you ever make it to Arizona ... The drinks are on me !!!!!!!

I can shake on that.

The same applies if you ever get up to NH.

 

[awake]

They are preparing for a Bolshevik revolution. Not a good thing by the way.

 

[Carson]

The vast majority of those capable of 'waking up' have already woken. Most of the people in this movement took hold of freedom the instant Ron Paul offered it to them. Within 5 minutes of seeing my first Ron Paul video so many years ago, I was hooked. Similar stories can be found across these forums. It was like a flip of a switch.

I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the country isn't wired to want freedom. They just want to be fed & entertained, control other people's liberties at the expense of their own, and have most of their choices made for them. No amount of education can fix this.

The reason why the Republican Party and the MSM have been marginalizing Ron Paul and pulling out every trick in the book to fight him is not because they don't understand his policies. They know his policies inside out, but simply reject them. Ron Paul's policies of freedom, personal responsibility, and limited government are in direct opposition to their desires to control and be controlled.

They won't ever admit to their tyrannical nature, instead their tendencies manifest themselves as façades of one variety or the other. Those façades being the Republican party or the Democratic party. You see, despite their desire for tyranny, they like to believe they are free. They don't participate in either party from any ideological belief, but instead as a utility to pretend they are free and in control of their lives.

Of course they are not in control of their lives. They are not free. They like enslaving and being enslaved, but can never admit that, because it would force them to acknowledge the very dark realities of their inner nature. Instead they operate in a state of denial, which is why very few of their arguments are rational. When you force them to look at the truth, they get very defensive and if you continue to press, you find outright hostility. Which is what we've been seeing this entire campaign.

I'm sure this is not what you wanted to hear. I cannot convince you that this is true. I hope only to expose you to this idea so that you can come to your own conclusion based on your own experiences. Based on my own experiences I can say with absolute certainty that only a minority of this country wants freedom.

By extension, this country is not going to make progress towards liberty. This country is on a one-way street both to tyranny, and economic collapse. If we continue with our current strategy, we may take a few steps towards liberty. But for every step we take forward, the rest of the country will have taken us five steps backward.

It is no longer a matter of if a collapse is going to happen. The only question is when, and whether or not we as a movement are going down with them.

Nice post bxm042,

It deserves a reprint.

Lets hope the movement has the momentum to grow...

~with the help all of the fresh fertilizer.

~amongst all of the failed ideals.

like everyone gets a new look and a new understanding in each other and once again unite for world peace and world betterment. Unity from the bottom up, not the top down.


Ron Paul for World Peace!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

ETA:
If you ever make it to Arizona ... The drinks are on me !!!!!!!

Count me in. CKs? Kona? Gilligin's?

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Seriously though...what the hell is up with all of that? Are we preparing for another war?

 

[azxd]

I can shake on that.

The same applies if you ever get up to NH.