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Kuldebar said:
Way to miss the point.
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When you're being treated like that, you're bound to wonder if maybe you had made the wrong choice. That was only half of his answer, though. He also mentioned his participation in the Savings and Loan scandal.
 
Overall, the worst debate to date.

Mitt seemed to be "the anointed" especially with all the shots of his wife thrown in.
Giuliani was given plenty of time to talk, but I don't think he helped himself.
Huckabee probably did himself the most good by morphing into Ron Paul.
I think McCain did the most damage to himself. Especially early in the debate he looked like crap, seemed completely unsure of himself, acted like he was at his own funeral.

Sadly, I thought our man fell a little flat this time. No gaffs and he did get a few good points in during his limited time. but he seemed tired and sadly it was not the Ron Paul that we have been seeing at rallies.

I expect when he gets a chance to speak AT LENGTH next Saturday at the straw poll that he will win over a lot more people. I am guessing he is going to be living in Iowa this week (?) if he gets out and speaks at length to groups he is going to do well I think.
 
SeanEdwards said:
Military people are expected to die if necessary in carrying out their duty. He can regret the consequences of doing his duty, but he should never have admitted that he regretted making the right choice.
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Frankly I don't think we have the right to critique people in such a manner, people who sacrificed so much at the whim of their country.
 
kylejack said:
When you're being treated like that, you're bound to wonder if maybe you had made the wrong choice. That was only half of his answer, though. He also mentioned his participation in the Savings and Loan scandal.
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The second half of his answer was fine, the first portion of his answer was a pathetic attempt to once again highlight his Vietnam prisoner of war status.
 
kylejack said:
Frankly I don't think we have the right to critique people in such a manner, people who sacrificed so much at the whim of their country.
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That smacks of holy cow and a bunch of bull.

Blind "patriotism" is the cause of many of our current woes because it discourages people from actually thinking things through.

Related to the same crap that's spouted: it's wartime we have to stand behind the president and not question anything.
 
kylejack said:
Frankly I don't think we have the right to critique people in such a manner, people who sacrificed so much at the whim of their country.
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You ever been in the military?

The worst insult imaginable within the military world is to be called a quitter. McCain said his worst mistake was not being a quitter. I suppose it might have been a misstatement, because he was trying to figure out some way to work his POW experience into the answer.

What he should have said was, "My worst mistake was breaking left, instead of right, when I saw that dirty commie missile coming at me." That would have served the same purpose of reminding everyone of his war hero status, without making it sound like he wished he had punked out and taken a carnival cruise instead of staying in the fight.
 
SeanEdwards said:
You ever been in the military?

The worst insult imaginable within the military world is to be called a quitter. McCain said his worst mistake was not being a quitter. I suppose it might have been a misstatement, because he was trying to figure out some way to work his POW experience into the answer.

What he should have said was, "My worst mistake was breaking left, instead of right, when I saw that dirty commie missile coming at me." That would have served the same purpose of reminding everyone of his war hero status, without making it sound like he wished he had punked out and taken a carnival cruise instead of staying in the fight.
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See, Sean gets it. ;)
 
SeanEdwards said:
You ever been in the military?

The worst insult imaginable within the military world is to be called a quitter. McCain said his worst mistake was not being a quitter. I suppose it might have been a misstatement, because he was trying to figure out some way to work his POW experience into the answer.

What he should have said was, "My worst mistake was breaking left, instead of right, when I saw that dirty commie missile coming at me." That would have served the same purpose of reminding everyone of his war hero status, without making it sound like he wished he had punked out and taken a carnival cruise instead of staying in the fight.
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The war in Vietnam had nothing to do with our national security. Quitting that horrible war would not have been a mistake.
 
Shellshock1918 said:
Paul really owned Romney when Romney said "have you forgotten 9-11?"

What a tool.
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Yep, and this is where Dr. Paul shined in the debate. He was aggressive and adamant about his stance. Romney tried to butt in like Giuliani and Paul stood his ground.
 
Ron Paul Fan said:
Yep, and this is where Dr. Paul shined in the debate. He was aggressive and adamant about his stance. Romney tried to butt in like Giuliani and Paul stood his ground.
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That's exactly what Romney was doing and try to capture some of that debate "glory" that Giuliani got. He's so phony and obvious. The fact he has supporters at all really opens my eyes to how many idiots are out there.
 
kylejack said:
The war in Vietnam had nothing to do with our national security. Quitting that horrible war would not have been a mistake.
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If you'd ever served in the miltiary you would understand what I'm talking about with the quitter thing. The military is totally pathological about quitters. It's just not accepted. You can die, but you can't quit. To even admit that you think about quitting puts a stink on you. It may be the one unforgivable sin.
 
richard1984 said:
It's not just you, buddy. T'hat's what they're doing.

They don't want to "over-intellectualize" this whole "debate" thing.
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Does anyone actually believe that a Democrat Operative like George is going to do anything that would make any republican sound intelligent, honest, and with half a brain?? I don't think so....they would much rather roast these morons for their continued support of failure...I was against the war and knew it was coming months and months in advance....I knew it would end up giving the Dems power....huge mistake on almost any front (fiscally, politically, morally, future security wise).

George and Co. know that Paul would be BAD JUJU for their socialist friends so they have to "tight rope"....on one hand the financial thieves and these guys on the otherside....but though you walk through the valley of the shadow of death Ron will fear NO EVIL!!!! God Speed Dr. Paul.
 
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