Watch NJ Senate Primary election results here.

Murray and team put forth a Trojan effort. I know that he, Paul, George, Luke and the others I never met fought as hard as possible.

I don't see one thing wrong with polling above 15% for a Vanguard effort. That can be easily improved upon in future elections.

This is good news, in my opinion, not bad. I was certain he wouldn't break 10%.
 
It isn't necessary to go through the trouble of altering Diebold bits when voters are fucking idiots.

QFT.

You can't win when the people want stuff for "free".
The only free thing people don't want is "FREEdom". *shrugs*
 
Murray and team put forth a Trojan effort. I know that he, Paul, George, Luke and the others I never met fought as hard as possible.

I know the campaign put forth a huge effort, so what was the cause of the miserable failure? Was it media issues? Too many gimmicks? Personality? Was Zimmer really all that great?
 
I know the campaign put forth a huge effort, so what was the cause of the miserable failure? Was it media issues? Too many gimmicks? Personality? Was Zimmer really all that great?

Money and machine.

Murray did not have enough of either.
 
I know the campaign put forth a huge effort, so what was the cause of the miserable failure? Was it media issues? Too many gimmicks? Personality? Was Zimmer really all that great?

Zimmer was "hand picked" by the Republican establishment at the last second, he didn't even want to run. The Republican machine got behind him plain and simple.
 
I know the campaign put forth a huge effort, so what was the cause of the miserable failure? Was it media issues? Too many gimmicks? Personality? Was Zimmer really all that great?

It's New Jersey. Party bosses control everything. All things considered, a revolutionary candidate like Sabrin shouldn't have gotten more than 10%.
 
god-forsaken

I'm at work right now in this god-forsaken state. I feel like I need a shower.
 
Money and machine.

Murray did not have enough of either.

Okay, the money aspect is probably one of the easier, more clear-cut issues. The machine, well, maybe places like NJ are best avoided for now.

Zimmer was "hand picked" by the Republican establishment at the last second, he didn't even want to run. The Republican machine got behind him plain and simple.

Makes sense.

It's New Jersey. Party bosses control everything. All things considered, a revolutionary candidate like Sabrin shouldn't have gotten more than 10%.

Well, we did well in a sense then, but again, maybe we shouldn't try in these types of areas yet.
 
Okay, the money aspect is probably one of the easier, more clear-cut issues. The machine, well, maybe places like NJ are best avoided for now.

Get control of the machine. Robertson and the Evangelicals employed a similar strategy as us, and now are one of the more influential groups within the party. Work within the hierarchy.

This is a long-term strategy.
 
Evangelicals are currently a god-forsaken bunch in the GOP. Most are sitting out the election altogether.
 
I'm pretty upset...I find it hard to believe he's coming in behind pennachio. He slayed in all of the debates...he was really on fire....:(
 
I wouldn't call today "a huge disappointment". While it is a little disheartening that Murray will not be the nominee, note the trend - Ron Paul only got 5% of the vote in the Presidential primary held February. Here Murray is getting 4x that currently near 20%.

Zimmer is the party hand picked nominee He is nothing more than a name with the backing of the party. He has absolutely no chance in the fall in a state where democrats outnumber republicans 2 to 1. Pennachino and Murray ran anti-establishment campaigns and probably took votes from each other. No one really knew anything about the candidates. the few that do follow noted how well murray fared in the debates.

while new jersey sinks farther and farther into debt, we the people of new jersey have no one to blame but ourselves.

Murray for governor!!!!
 
Get control of the machine. Robertson and the Evangelicals employed a similar strategy as us, and now are one of the more influential groups within the party. Work within the hierarchy.

This is a long-term strategy.

Indeed. It's too bad there aren't more politically savvy folks coming to prominence in the Revolution just yet. Most of us have eyes way bigger than our stomachs and don't/didn't understand how the American political process works.

This will change.
 
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