Watch KET/CSPAN Debate

[JohnG]

No, but he should have quoted Reagan or Jefferson you can do that in 30 minutes

Not mess with Grayson over who is more kentuckian

 

[sailingaway]

Gurley had the closest talking points to Ron Paul

I know. I wouldn't mind him in the Senate if Rand weren't going.

 

[low preference guy]

I think Gurley's positions are better than Ron Paul's. But Gurley is unelectable of course.

 

[GoatsGoneWild]

I think in the end, Rand lost this.

Even if not many people watched this live, I hope the local media doesn't spin this too much in Trey's favor.

 

[sailingaway]

I think Gurley's positions are better than Ron Paul's. But Gurley is unelectable of course.

Which position is better than Ron Paul's? CSPAN stopped and started on me -- I may have missed it.

 

[Chieftain1776]

Rand's closing statement sucked. He shouldn't have picked up on Grayson there. And not a word about Palin.

C+ to Paul.

Yeah I agree. I mean he just responded to Treyson's attack. He should have pointed to one of the themes of his campaign: "Unlike others in this campaign I have worked in the private sector as a doctor my whole life. I know what it's like to make payroll, pay taxes, and otherwise deal with the burden government places on other Kentuckians."

On other things he could have pointed out his positions on a moratorium on travel visas, supporting vouchers in DC, tighter border security etc..

Rand was much sharper earlier in the campaign.

 

[Fozz]

You drastically overestimate how many voters pay attention.

Unfortunately, this is the time when they pay attention.

 

[sailingaway]

I think in the end, Rand lost this.

Even if not many people watched this live, I hope the local media doesn't spin this too much in Trey's favor.

The whole country watched it.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

There are a lot of undecided voters, and it is clear that Treyson came out stronger, especially on the Iran and Gitmo questions.

We all want Trey to lose, but when 15% of voters are undecided, and then most of them go to Trey, then this will be VERY close.

Clear? Actually Trey came off as an ass at a H.S. debate toward the middle and end.

 

[sailingaway]

Unfortunately, this is the time when they pay attention.

I know. The one in NKY is being replayed over and over as well, maybe we'll luck out and people will mostly watch that....

Although Rand was pretty good in the middle and end. Rocky start, and he did throw away an opportunity for a strong close, although I don't think he actually created a negative out of it.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

if rand wasn't in this race i'd vote for gurley.

ditto!

-t

 

[BamaFanNKy]

You guys are thinking most the electorate is watching this. The "Undecided vote" will most likely not show up to vote. If you are still undecided right now you kinda don't care.

 

[Fozz]

I think Gurley's positions are better than Ron Paul's. But Gurley is unelectable of course.

Gurley called Obama a Mullah in another debate. That is very hurtful to Muslims.

 

[cmasslibertarian]

The whole country watched it.

You're perceptions are skewed by being on rpf my friend. Most people don't give a shit who wins, never mind watching the debates.

 

[itshappening]

There are a lot of undecided voters, and it is clear that Treyson came out stronger, especially on the Iran and Gitmo questions.

We all want Trey to lose, but when 15% of voters are undecided, and then most of them go to Trey, then this will be VERY close.

they wont all go to Trey though, they will split probably more in favor of Rand too

Also, Iran and Gitmo are not big issues in Kentucky or in the country (much as Grayson would like them to be, they are way down the list of polled issues) so it wont hurt him, he got through those questions fine

 

[low preference guy]

It's not "clear" at all to me that Trey came stronger. He came as an ass who doesn't have any positions and all he can do is criticize his opponent.

 

[Fozz]

Clear? Actually Trey came off as an ass at a H.S. debate toward the middle and end.

But he gave a stronger message on security (not that I agree with it) and he sounded more accommodating to Kentuckians. Sure, Rand had his moments, but overall this was a disaster for him.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

It's not "clear" at all to me that Trey came stronger. He came as an ass who doesn't have any positions and all he can do is criticize his opponent.

Exactly. Rand settled in after 10 minutes and absorb the blow.

Trey was pointing and yelling like Gore ala 2000 and Rand put him in place ala Bush.

YouTube - Al Gore tries to Intimidate Fight George Bush at Debates Nod

I just watched the clip again. Man, did Gore really remind me of Trey.

 

[Fozz]

they wont all go to Trey though, they will split probably more in favor of Rand too

Also, Iran and Gitmo are not big issues in Kentucky or in the country (much as Grayson would like them to be, they are way down the list of polled issues) so it wont hurt him, he got through those questions fine

Many undecided voters who were wondering what Rand's stance is on Iran have probably seen it in the debate, and he was not specific at ALL. Most Kentuckians who put fiscal issues first probably already support Rand, but maybe the undecided ones were uncertain about foreign policy and national security.

 

[itshappening]

But he gave a stronger message on security (not that I agree with it) and he sounded more accommodating to Kentuckians. Sure, Rand had his moments, but overall this was a disaster for him.

No it wasn't, Trey seemed very amateurish and always sniping Rand gave good answers to the questions.