watch democrats convert before your very eyes, inspiring!

[V4Vendetta]

Wolf: Amazing..... Amazing.....
(thud)

Wolf Faints

 

[pickfair]

Also a converted Democrat.

 

[Ara825]

Another converted Democrat here

 

[nbhadja]

<----- converted apathetic

Every measure I see indicates that a small # of RP supporters fall in the "likely republican voter" criteria used to determine who the polls include.
Get ready for a shock, msm!

 

[NewEnd]

awesome, hope inspirign article.
More thana democrat, an activist democrat.

 

[V4Vendetta]

Another converted Democrat here

Wolf: Amazing..... Amazing.....
(thud)

Wolf Faints

 

[Tedhunter]

My girlfriend identifies herself as a liberal, and she loves Kucinich. I think she could be swayed to join us - but she's scared as hell about Ron's view on abortion. She also doesn't trust the idea that respecting property rights is the best answer for environmental issues - her rationale there is that big companies can use their legal resources to delay trials indefinitely.

So, I'm not really sure what to tell her.

 

[NewEnd]

My girlfriend identifies herself as a liberal, and she loves Kucinich. She's scared as hell about Ron's view on abortion though, and I'm not really sure what to tell her. She also doesn't trust the idea that respecting property rights is the best answer for environmental issues - her rationale there is that big companies can use their legal resources to delay trials.

I just don't know what to tell her.

there will be a super-Democratic congress. the worst paul can do is appoint a judge that would send Abortion to the states.

and she is right about the environment, IMHO, here where I live, Artesco put a whole bunch of Arsenic in the ground... adn then went bankrupt... and you cannot bleed a turnip. I think environmental protection should be pro-active, not reactive.

 

[tomveil]

<---- Converted Obamian

Love his ideas and his vision. Sadly, we don't have the government that can pull it off. My wet dream is Ron Paul as president and Barack Obama as VP, in charge of making social programs more efficent and transparent as we transition out of them.

 

[Tedhunter]

there will be a super-Democratic congress. the worst paul can do is appoint a judge that would send Abortion to the states.

That's actually the concern she mentioned - that he might be in a position to appoint an "activist" judge to the Supreme Court during his time in office.

I think environmental protection should be pro-active, not reactive.

Do you think the federal government is the only entity that can effectively take that sort of preventative action?

 

[shagywashere]

I didn't know who I was going to vote for, but I knew it wasn't going to be Republican...until I seen Ron Paul. I didn't really like the Democrats but I liked Gravel and from Gravel I seen a video of RP....WOOO

 

[tomveil]

Glad you saw the light........I'm just curious as to what goes through a person's mind when they support that slimeball.....I guess he is the lesser of evils on the frontrunner democratic side, but what about Kucinich.

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to answer anyway

The idea that we should all be one community and not be divided.
That we should have actual debates about positions and policies.
That government should be transparent and accountable to the people.
That Iraq was wrong and we should have never gone in.

I honestly think that eventually in the future we will all be one big happy society, helping each other and using our resources for common good. But we're not in that world yet, and this government has no chance to get us there. Obama represents what government SHOULD be (to a "socialist" like myself), not what government IS. Sadly, he can't turn it around by himself. I still think that he'll be a great president in 8 years after Dr. Paul is done. He can continue with his ideas of government, but only after we clean house for a while.

 

[Austin]

I was on the path to become a Neocon, via Fox News.

Thank God for Freedom to Fascism, otherwise I'd be a drone right about now, probably supporting Giuliani.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

<---- converted democrat

 

[NewEnd]

Do you think the federal government is the only entity that can effectively take that sort of preventative action?

Naw, state and local governemtn can usually watch out for their own watersheds, but border areas may need federal intervention.

there is no way in heel I could be convinced the national parks need to be privatized though. Forget it.

That's actually the concern she mentioned - that he might be in a position to appoint an "activist" judge to the Supreme Court during his time in office.

there are 3 possible positions
pro-life
pro choice
left to the states

rigth now, the court leans pro-life.
It could go either way. Soon, abortions may be banned nationwide. If it is determined the court has this jurisdiction, then boom, so it is written, so it is done.

However, if it is left to the states, then all 50 do not have to be pro-life, just because 9 guys say so.

 

[NewEnd]

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to answer anyway

The idea that we should all be one community and not be divided.
That we should have actual debates about positions and policies.
That government should be transparent and accountable to the people.
That Iraq was wrong and we should have never gone in.

I honestly think that eventually in the future we will all be one big happy society, helping each other and using our resources for common good. But we're not in that world yet, and this government has no chance to get us there. Obama represents what government SHOULD be (to a "socialist" like myself), not what government IS. Sadly, he can't turn it around by himself. I still think that he'll be a great president in 8 years after Dr. Paul is done. He can continue with his ideas of government, but only after we clean house for a while.

Me too. I honestly think the style of economic management is irrelevant, peopel will find ways to make money. I think the real question is, the character of the peopel in power. Obama has not proven he is trustworthy to me. He talks the talk, but he has little record to be scrutinized.

 

[bricklayer]

<---- converted apathetic

i think i'm an INTP, which to me means, i like it when people appeal to principles. ron paul is the first candidate i've seen who is principled, and doesn't pander. i love it. he makes me understand what being a republican means, and proud to be one.

 

[tomveil]

Me too. I honestly think the style of economic management is irrelevant, peopel will find ways to make money. I think the real question is, the character of the peopel in power. Obama has not proven he is trustworthy to me. He talks the talk, but he has little record to be scrutinized.

Which is why he seems like the perfect VP choice for me (since I'm biased). In 8 years, he'd come out WITH experience AND a record. I know it sounds crazy, but there's 0% chance that Hillary beats a Paul/Obama ticket.

 

[NewEnd]

Which is why he seems like the perfect VP choice for me (since I'm biased). In 8 years, he'd come out WITH experience AND a record. I know it sounds crazy, but there's 0% chance that Hillary beats a Paul/Obama ticket.

the only way this would happen, would be if Hilary started a ruthless, cut-throat campaign, that sewed so much bad blood, Obama would be willing to defect. My dollar is on, he takes the whipping, and saves it up for another time, as he is advised to do by the DNC.

But it would be trouble, because Obama would probably want to be president. It sounds like a pipe dream.

 

[tomveil]

the only way this would happen, would be if Hilary started a ruthless, cut-throat campaign, that sewed so much bad blood, Obama would be willing to defect. My dollar is on, he takes the whipping, and saves it up for another time, as he is advised to do by the DNC.

But it would be trouble, because Obama would probably want to be president. It sounds like a pipe dream.

I agree. I imagine the "perfect storm" in which Ron Paul comes in a suprising 3rd/2nd combo while Hillary runs over both states with very sizable margins. Obama is suddenly out of it, and Paul needs a bump. They get together and talk about it. I get the feeling that both would put the country ahead of party if they were able to talk together. Besides, the VP spot is a lock to step up in 8 years for Obama.

And honestly they do have things in common. Transparency and accountablility in government is a very key part of both of their strategies. Obama could get in, work hard, and make sure that his social programs that he wants are running efficently while Dr. Paul takes care of the foriegn policy mess.

There's nothing saying that a Republican and Democrat can't run together. In this particular year, it could help them both tremendously. Oh, and the "racist" label gets shot down pretty quick too, doesn't it?