Christian Liberty
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The you don't get it refers to the desire for whatever reason to be back there. You couldn't possibly understand it since I don't even really know why. You can only get it though, if you get it.
You seem to think morals are absolute. I hate to break it to you but morals are relative. So are gods.
I've come to realize that philosophical ideals are great to have, they are something to strive for. However, in the real world they are nothing more than hopes and dreams. You want it all. But you will NEVER win if you try to get everything all at once. The communists of the early 20th century wanted to see the US turn red. They realized that unlike Russia there would be no great revolution. So they started everything slowly. By slowly picking away at the country our country is now at the precipice of actually going full blown socialist without even hiding it. Those dead actually genius in their implementation of our servitude/slavery have almost realized their dream knowing they would never live to see it. That is a strategy we have implement. David could not build your gods temple because of the blood on his hands. That is the biblical story anyways.
I was young and idealistic once. We all fight for something. I fought because I knew this country could become a battlefield. Not because of the Afghan people, they are irrelevant. But it was a fight I chose to join because I forged the knowledge and relationships that may sadly be needed here. Perhaps I became corrupted because of it, but when we were out there, we didn't fight for country, we didn't fight because we believed in the war, we fought for each other. That perhaps is the greatest lesson of war. Since you brought up Germany, do you really think those men fought for anything different? I know your going to probably smugly link to that article on Lew Rockwell about the German soldier, but I promise you the world is not black and white, it is gray. Very very grey.
I don't need your approval. What I need is knowledge and skills to be able to fight back here because that may be needed. I ask you, how much did you donate to Ron Paul in the 2008 and 2012 elections? How many people did you try to educate and bring to the liberty movement? These are rhetorical questions that you need only answer yourself. I have faith and confidence that you did your best. That is all one can ask.
I don't see myself as a hero, or as a "hired killer" as you insinuated. If that is what you believe I am so be it. I tell you though, one day you may be required to bring up arms against another American. I fear that day and hope it doesn't happen, however, those that make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. I consider myself among the "preppers." Enlisting was a 5 year prep. My journey within the military is coming to its end. My start with the militia begins when that end comes to fruition.
In fact, what I truly hope is that you never ever have to do is snap in on a man, woman or child and know that you may be tasked with taking the shot. I at great risk avoided a shot I should have taken on a motorcycle that had a man (most likely a spotter that was testing if we would fire or not) and a woman come within feet of our convoy and rode right past us. We had intel that the locals had a motorcycle armed with explosives. A motorcycle that was armed with explosives later hit two vehicles in our convey. Was it them? I will never know. It is something I get to question the rest of my life. Perhaps I should have taken the shot. Perhaps I just saved the lives of a man and his wife just trying to bug out of the situation. I will hope it was just that. War has consequences.
I truly believe the US is the next war front. When I get out and move to were I plan to live, guess what. You are only 200 miles away (I googled from were you say you located). What if there comes a day I am your squad leader trying to protect Purcellville's 1st Freedom Battalion from UN forces trying to establish control? Would you follow and trust me then?
Afghan war veterans are not your enemy. In fact, many many veterans are here on this forum. We may not be ancaps, we may not even necessarily be libertarians, but we share similar ideals. If the infighting does not stop this movement will never be more than a collection of fringe movements trying to accomplish everything and ending up accomplishing nothing. At the end of the day I am just a guy that doesn't have all the answers, doesn't care to have them and really just wants the freedom to be left alone to do as I desire.
In 2008, I was a 13 year old kid who had no clue about anything. In 2012, I was in the process of waking up, but still in the process. I was actually in a law enforcement class at the time seeking to become a prosecuting attorney (I have learned a lot since 2012... lol...). I was also still getting through high school. For what its worth, my school's YAL chapter is starting up soon and I am joining.
Its not that I see Afghan war vets as my enemy, just that I cannot imagine why anyone who is a libertarian, or even a constitutionalist, would be proud of service in a war like that. I think the German soldier analogy is better than you think it is. German soldiers weren't all Hitler, or SS, and a lot of them genuinely believed they were fighting for the good of Germany. The fact that you are preparing for war here is an understandable reason, I suppose. With that being said, if you don't know this already, you should stay FAR AWAY from law enforcement. Everyone should, I understand, but especially you. There's nothing good at all about bringing a wartime mentality to policing.
I'm glad you didn't take the shot. You aren't morally responsible for the shots you didn't take, only the ones you did. Again, you were the ones who were invading in the first place.
A big part of the problem is that while YOU don't consider yourself a hero, I've been bombarded all my life with the idea that vets are. And once I starting reading Vance and waking up, I couldn't go back to that mentality. Its not that I judge you. I don't. Heaven knows that stupid things I would have done had I not woken up before I got out of high school. Why you would want to be a part of bringing war to a foreign land though, I'll never understand.