Vivek Ramaswamy’s 2024 POTUS campaign

This is a good one... Taking questions from the audience.

I hear zero bullsh*t from this guy.

The disruption of Trump but without the abrasiveness and divisiveness.

I also really like the way he answers questions about faith and being Hindu. Straight-up, no BS.

 
Interesting....



He did a fantastic job, and debunked one of his J6 - Orange man bad! claims that was similar to the two on the laundry list from SS. I guess someone could ask him about the other ones as well, but I'm going to assume they are bunk.. or at least he has changed his mind significantly based on evidence he has seen since.

Yes, he's a big pharma guy. Not every single person in big pharma is bad and apparently being in the industry has taught him a lot about the corruption of said industry.

It's possible he could be a plant, but the fact that he was a 2007 big Ron Paul supporter and his in depth knowledge on the topics, especially on how a President could specifically go about dismantling many of our three letter agencies, is a pretty good indicator that he is not.

I have a feeling that a lot of the people who don't like Vivek haven't spent much time listening to what he is saying when he actually speaks and a lot more time reading material written by other people about him.

Other people may get the impression that he is "just a salesperson" that gives them the heebie jeebies, and they believe every salesperson is lying constantly. What happens when a salesperson tells you the truth? Or do you believe that is impossible?
 
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Yes, he's a big pharma guy.

And profited handsomely by it, by taking failed drugs and remarketing them, and then bragged “Berkshire Hathaway of drug development”.


It's possible he could be a plant

Ya don't say.

but the fact that he was a 2007 big Ron Paul supporter and his in depth knowledge on the topics, especially on how a President could go about dismantling many of our three letter agencies, is a pretty good indicator that he is not.

But he didn't even vote until 2020, according to him. Unless you count the time that the True Libertarian supposedly forgot that he voted for Libertarian Candidate Michael Badnarik in 2004. How does one forget something like that? Where was he during RP's 2012 campaign?

But he did vote for Trump in 2020. Wonder if all those billions in pharm subsidies and OWS had something to do with it?


Other people may get the impression that every salesperson is lying constantly.

Snake oil.
 
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Ep. 17 Vivek Ramaswamy is the youngest Republican presidential candidate ever

 
The wide legal consensus is that the 14th Amendment grants all rights and priveleges and citizenship to virtually any human being born in the United States, and therefore they can become president if born here. If Biden kicks the bucket tomorrow, Kamala Harris is president. Quoting opinions from non-Americans written before 1776 is about as irrelevant as irrelevant gets.

I'm not saying it SHOULD be that way. I'm against it. But I recognize that Vivek and Kamala and Obama and any child born in the USA from illegals or whatever is POTUS eligible. The sole exceptions would be children of foreign dignitaries who have diplomatic immunity, as they are not subject to the US jurisdictions.

Bunk.

The Constitution was built on previous law that was used by the colonists.
And being born here WHILE PARENTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE US (illegals are outlaws who have refused to be subject to our jurisdiction) grants citizenship and its benefits, it does not and cannot grant Natural Born Citizenship and its benefits.
Knock it off with the living constitution garbage.
 
I have no idea if Ramaswamy is a "natural born citizen" (whatever that is - apparently, it all depends on whichever legal interpretations one already prefers to agree with) - and I don't really give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys whether he is or not.

Javier Milei is certainly not a "natural born citizen" (or any other kind of citizen) of the U.S. - but if he ran for POTUS, I'd support him over Ramaswamy and all the rest (and I don't know if the guy has ever been outside of Argentina, or if he even speaks English).


This is how you get stealth conquered.
He's not an assimilated American, he says whatever he thinks will get the current majority to support him including changing positions at the drop of a hat, and he has openly declared support for globalist measures like the TPP and importing even more H1B workers to steal the jobs that Trade Agreements don't send overseas.

Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage and a few lies will leave us strangers in the land our fathers bought with their blood, if we are left alive by the hostile foreigners who dispossess us.
 
I have no idea if Ramaswamy is a "natural born citizen" (whatever that is - apparently, it all depends on whichever legal interpretations one already prefers to agree with) - and I don't really give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys whether he is or not.

Javier Milei is certainly not a "natural born citizen" (or any other kind of citizen) of the U.S. - but if he ran for POTUS, I'd support him over Ramaswamy and all the rest (and I don't know if the guy has ever been outside of Argentina, or if he even speaks English).

This is how you get stealth conquered.
He's not an assimilated American, he says whatever he thinks will get the current majority to support him including changing positions at the drop of a hat, and he has openly declared support for globalist measures like the TPP and importing even more H1B workers to steal the jobs that Trade Agreements don't send overseas.

Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage and a few lies will leave us strangers in the land our fathers bought with their blood, if we are left alive by the hostile foreigners who dispossess us.

If you are referring to Ramaswamy, I wasn't expressing "support" for him (whatever that is supposed to mean [1]).

I was merely remarking upon the NBC issue. I only mentioned Ramaswamy because that is who was being discussed.

However, I admit I do like him better than any of the other notable Republicans he's running against - but that's a pretty low bar.



[1] Such as endorsing him, hoping he wins the nomination, contributing to or working for his campaign, sticking a piece of paper with a mark by his name into a magic wishing box, etc. - or encouraging anyone else to do any of those things.
 
However, I admit I do like him better than any of the other notable Republicans he's running against - but that's a pretty low bar.

Low bar for sure. But the reason that I dislike him the most is because he is a brilliant quick study and knows precisely how to pander. When you look into his recent past, he has flipped his positions and learned how to hone in. I do not trust that one little bit.

Part of vetting is not only listening to what one says, but whether they truly mean it and by hard example, of which he has nothing whatsoever to show.

The guy is brilliant though. Reminds me of me, except for the fact that I am honest and have actually shown by example over the decades ;-)
 
However, I admit I do like him better than any of the other notable Republicans he's running against - but that's a pretty low bar.

Doesn't matter how low a bar Trump sets. You must consider every other bar lower or you're disrespecting his man crush. And hell hath no fury like a cuck with a man crush who was scorned.
 
Watch Vivek make fukkin mincemeat out of Fake News Jim Acosta

This is a beautiful thing. Start at 17:50 "Let's get real, Jim" to the end.

 
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This is a beautiful thing to watch.

Generally he has as bad a habit of talking over people's heads as Trump does of sounding like a third grader.

But once in a great while he makes what he's saying very accessible. Like, "Our goal shouldn't be for Putin to lose, our goal should be for America to win."
 
Generally he has as bad a habit of talking over people's heads as Trump does of sounding like a third grader.

But once in a great while he makes what he's saying very accessible. Like, "Our goal shouldn't be for Putin to lose, our goal should be for America to win."
Yes, I agree. That was a great one.

That's the first time I've seen Vivek get pissed off.

Trump gets belligerent, Vivek drops the Holy Hammer of Truth and Conviction.
 
Generally he has as bad a habit of talking over people's heads as Trump does of sounding like a third grader.

But once in a great while he makes what he's saying very accessible. Like, "Our goal shouldn't be for Putin to lose, our goal should be for America to win."

That appealed to me too. But then I go to thinking, "if/when America can't compete, it conquers". I am not sure how government can compete in semiconductors, or anything else, unless government itself gets out of the way. So far the blame has been Russia, China, this country, that country, and not the economic policies here at home.

I do know that he realized incredible and massive profits during Covid by remarketing failed drugs [“Berkshire Hathaway of drug development”] and Hedge Funds, when the 1% profited off the backs of the 99%.

If small, medium and even large business can truly compete, we would not have to worry about other countries at all.
 
If small, medium and even large business can truly compete, we would not have to worry about other countries at all.
That's a big if, unfortunately.

There needs to be some major changes in the way we live in America if we are going to compete on the global stage - in manufacturing especially.

There are simple reasons why we don't make sh*t in America anymore..... The cost of labor and the cost of materials for starters.
 
That's a big if, unfortunately.

There needs to be some major changes in the way we live in America if we are going to compete on the global stage - in manufacturing especially.

There are simple reasons why we don't make sh*t in America anymore..... The cost of labor and the cost of materials for starters.


I agree. But shifting the blame onto Russia, China, whatever the country, will never fix the problem. Neither does adding on $8.18T+ during the last administration, and where Big Pharm made enormous profits off of failed, remarketed drugs, and vaccines that were never tested.
 
I agree. But shifting the blame onto Russia, China, whatever the country, will never fix the problem. Neither does adding on $8.18T+ during the last administration, and where Big Pharm made enormous profits off of failed, remarketed drugs, and vaccines that were never tested.
I can't fault a guy for getting rich off our current economy and tax code.

Maybe Vivek *did* make his fortune the way you say... I don't really care. Maybe that's how a guy gets rich trying to compete against Big Pharma, I don't know.

Trump made his billions defaulting on casinos and using mobsters to build real estate. And then taking advantage of our fugged up tax code just like every other rich guy in America.

Don't care. I voted for him twice anyway praying he would drain the swamp.

Vivek has the disruption factor, without the abrasiveness and divisiveness.

Only thing I'm worried about with Vivek is his personal exposure. People in power don't like giving up power. A couple of anonymous photos of his wife and kids might be all it takes.
 
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I can't fault a guy for getting rich off our current economy and tax code.

Maybe Vivek *did* make his fortune the way you say... I don't really care. Maybe that's how a guy gets rich trying to compete against Big Pharma, I don't know.

Trump made his billions defaulting on casinos and using mobsters to build real estate. And then taking advantage of our fugged up tax code just like every other rich guy in America.

Don't care. I voted for him twice anyway praying he would drain the swamp.

Vivek has the disruption factor, without the abrasiveness and divisiveness.

Only thing I'm worried about with Vivek is his personal exposure. People in power don't like giving up power. A couple of anonymous photos of his wife and kids might be all it takes.


:mouthopen: And ^^ this ^^ folks, is why this country is the way that it is.
 
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:mouthopen: And ^^ this ^^ folks, is why this country is the way that it is.
We're not voting on who's got the best moral compass. Show me a guy that made his own fortune and I will show you some shady dealing.

I am going to vote for the guy I think stands the best chance of pressing the STOP button on this national elevator rapidly descending into a fiery pit.

And if his path back to greatness includes returning America to Individual Merit --> Family --> Nation --> God, then more power to him.

I haven't gotten involved in a political race since I helped answer the phones for Ross Perot.

I'm seriously considering volunteering for Vivek.
 
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