Vivek has my vote...

Vivake the Snake

Pro vax registry oligarch.

But he has that old "lock her up" type of Orange rhetoric that gives even a cynic like me a little thrill.

Meh, my give a shat level for him and the entire field of "'murika's best" is barely perceptible.
 
TheTexan said:
I don't think Trump nor DeSantis has openly opposed secession.
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Trump already demonstrated unambiguously that he doesn't oppose trillion dollar deficits and Covid lockdowns, is it really a valuable use of time to speculate what any of his other positions are at this point?
 
Matt Collins said:
DeSantis signed the largest ever tax hike in the history of Florida, and he isn't serious about the right to keep and bear arms. I live in FL.
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I live in Florida now too. There was no tax hike, they just started collecting tax on internet sales. He signed constitutional carry. DeSantis is fine, he has actual government experience as a congressman and leadership experience as a governor. Ramaswamy has neither and I'm not happy with how it turned out the last time a president with no experience was elected.
 
69360 said:
I live in Florida now too. There was no tax hike,
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This is false. I am now paying taxes on things where I previously didn't. That's the very definition of a "tax hike" or at least a "new tax."

69360 said:
He signed constitutional carry.
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No he did not. He signed a half-assed bill that allowed for unlicensed conceal carry, so long as one is carrying their ID on them. He didn't lead on the issue and he didn't demand the legislature send him a true Constitutional Carry bill. He did the bare minimum and he wouldn't have even done that if I hadn't personally forced him to do it.


69360 said:
DeSantis is fine, he has actual government experience as a congressman and leadership experience as a governor. Ramaswamy has neither and I'm not happy with how it turned out the last time a president with no experience was elected.
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This is a double edged sword I agree.

A fresh perspective is great especially one who won't be bridled by a bunch of political BS and traditional type of thinking "this is how things normally work around here" ... on the other hand, an experienced elected official has at least some idea of "how things work around here" and is sometimes better able to navigate the political/bureaucratic complex in order to get stuff done but also less willing to be bold and stick their neck out on real issues most of the time.
 
Matt Collins said:
This is false. I am now paying taxes on things where I previously didn't. That's the very definition of a "tax hike" or at least a "new tax."
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Fixed that for you. Now. Did anyone say anything about new taxes? 69360? You? Anyone?

Matt Collins said:
No he did not. He signed a half-assed bill that allowed for unlicensed conceal carry, so long as one is carrying their ID on them. He didn't lead on the issue and he didn't demand the legislature send him a true Constitutional Carry bill.
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You wouldn't be splitting hairs now, would you? Is it the ID you find so offensive? Did the man say he led, or just that he signed?

Matt Collins said:
He did the bare minimum and he wouldn't have even done that if I hadn't personally forced him to do it.
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Just don't ask, 69360. Trust me on this.

Matt Collins said:
This is a double edged sword I agree.

A fresh perspective is great especially one who won't be bridled by a bunch of political BS and traditional type of thinking "this is how things normally work around here" ... on the other hand, an experienced elected official has at least some idea of "how things work around here" and is sometimes better able to navigate the political/bureaucratic complex in order to get stuff done but also less willing to be bold and stick their neck out on real issues most of the time.
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Jimmy Carter stuck his neck out way, way farther than Trump ever did. Just saying.
 
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Matt Collins said:
If that's true, it doesn't matter in this case. I said I don't agree with him on everything and also, it is practically impossible for him to win the nomination anyway. But most of his other answers are better than any of the other candidates. Did you watch the interview above in the OP?
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We found out the DeSantis campaign put out a bunch of anti-Vivek propaganda early on, and a lot of people here ate it up.. plus he works in the big pharma industry, so they don't trust him.

Vivek is by far the best candidate in the race, he has better positions than Trump. I only support Trump because I support revenge. I want to see him tear them all to pieces.

I am "all in" on Vivek '28. Ron Paul likes Vivek as well.

DeSantis has run the worst Presidential campaign in history, cozied up to the worst kind of lobbyists and changed his political positions on Ukraine from tolerable to intolerable.

DeSantis as a "Trump without the baggage" candidate was a good sell, but he decided to actively oppose Trump, attack his base and tacitly support the Democrats attempting to take Trump out of the race. Unforgiveable.
 
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dannno said:
Unforgiveable.
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Everyone in this race is shooting themselves in the foot. The LP shot itself in the foot for an independent who later shot himself in the foot.

Compared to ratfuckers these days, Nixon was a piker. The CIA never sleeps.

The illusion of choice.
 
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Jbunker said:
Trump already demonstrated unambiguously that he doesn't oppose trillion dollar deficits and Covid lockdowns, is it really a valuable use of time to speculate what any of his other positions are at this point?
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I'm a 1 issue voter. (except, I don't vote)

And that 1 issue is secession. It's the only thing that matters at this point.

I'm also a big fan of divisiveness (because it leads to secession). Trump scores highly on this.
 
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