[Video] Why Islam Is The Anti Christ

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

Muslim brother said:
Islam is not anti-christ at all, we believe in christ and his second coming.
http://www.discoveringislam.org/return_of_jesus.htm
Actually, we consider ourselves the followers of all respected prophets of God.
http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/truejesus.htm

But you don't believe in the Jesus of the Bible, who was God who put on flesh. So, you don't believe in Him or love Him and you don't believe the truth about Him. He said that unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.

Muwahid · Sep 28, 2012

We believe in the Jesus who was born of a virgin birth, performed miracles including raising the dead. We just don't proclaim his as God, which can't be too far fetched as Unitarian Christians believe the same thing.

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

Sola_Fide said:
But you don't believe in the Jesus of the Bible...

No? The way I heard it, Mohammed called Jesus 'Teacher'. Sound like twelve other guys you know?

Divide and conquer tactics are divide and conquer tactics. And if divide and conquer tactics were of Jesus, then Jesus would have ranted and raved and foamed at the mouth about Samaritans, instead of suggesting the possibility that one or two of them might be good men.

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

Muwahid said:
We believe in the Jesus who was born of a virgin birth, performed miracles including raising the dead. We just don't proclaim his as God, which can't be too far fetched as Unitarian Christians believe the same thing.

There is no such thing as a Unitarian Christian. The Christian faith is Trinitarian only. That's what Christianity is....Trinitarianism. The Biblical witness of the Old and New Testaments is that Jesus existed as God from all eternity. Muhammed did not know the Scriptures and he did not even understand the Trinity. He was a false prophet who contradicted what was already handed down over and over again.

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

Sola_Fide said:
That's what Christianity is.....

Lord, in Your Mercy, please save us from the fundamentalists on all sides.

Todd · Sep 28, 2012

Jumbo Shrimp said:
The real antiChrists were the Protestant deformers who rebelled against Christ's One, True, Holy, Apostolic Church.

antichrist can also be anything that leads you away from your walk with Christ.

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

acptulsa said:
No? The way I heard it, Mohammed called Jesus 'Teacher'. Sound like twelve other guys you know?

Divide and conquer tactics are divide and conquer tactics. And if divide and conquer tactics were of Jesus, then Jesus would have ranted and raved and foamed at the mouth about Samaritans, instead of suggesting the possibility that one or two of them might be good men.

There will always be people who compromise for the sake of unity. And there will always be people who love the truth too much to ever compromise. You get to choose what kind of man you want to be.

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

There will also always be those who find some little personal advantage in intolerance.

Sola_Fide said:
You get to choose what kind of man you want to be.

This I can agree with.

acptulsa said:
"I have sometimes wondered if the preachers themselves have not something to do with this. You hear or read a sermon nowadays, and the biggest part of it is taken up by knocking or trying to prove the falseness of some other denomination. They say that the Catholics are damned, that the Jews' religion is all wrong, or that the Christian Scientists are a fake, or that the Protestants are all out of step.

"Now, just suppose, for a change they preach to you about the Lord and not about the other fellow's church, for every man's religion is good. There is none of it bad. We are all trying to arrive at the same place according to our own conscience and teachings. It don't matter which road you take."--Will Rogers 1923

They say man creates God in his own image. I don't. I am small and petty, but I adamantly refuse to believe the same is true of God.

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

acptulsa said:
Lord, in Your Mercy, please save us from the fundamentalists on all sides.

Oooooh, scary isn't it? That I can actually define what Christianity is and defend it? That makes me a "fundie".

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I've been called worse I guess...

moostraks · Sep 28, 2012

Sola_Fide said:
There will always be people who compromise for the sake of unity. And there will always be people who love the truth too much to ever compromise. You get to choose what kind of man you want to be.

Lol...Does he? Tell us how that works...

moostraks · Sep 28, 2012

Sola_Fide said:
Oooooh, scary isn't it? That I can actually define what Christianity is and defend it? That makes me a "fundie". .

I've been called worse I guess...

You define your views of Christianity and then demand all others tow the line or they are unbiblical. Your views lack the characteristics indicated by the fruit of the spirit.

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

moostraks said:
Lol...Does he? Tell us how that works...

I was under the impression that I was predestined to be a pain in Sola Fide's ass...

Jumbo Shrimp · Sep 28, 2012

Muwahid said:
We believe in the Jesus who was born of a virgin birth, performed miracles including raising the dead. We just don't proclaim his as God, which can't be too far fetched as Unitarian Christians believe the same thing.

If you don't accept Him as God you are calling Him a liar.

Muwahid · Sep 28, 2012

"trinity" is not in the bible. This is a concept which came hundreds of years later. If that's not the case then you must reconcile how millions of Christians can open the Bible and still not believe Jesus is God. They can because the concept of the trinity is not in the Bible, but the Romans were originally polytheists - their gods had children, this was an easier concept for them to swallow.

Islam turned a bunch of pagans who didn't believe in Jesus from the get-go, into firm believers of the messiah. Some Christians try to obfuscate Islam's interpretation of Jesus because when they realize the differences are so little they may have a hard time believing we're the anti-christs, lol.

Jumbo Shrimp said:
If you don't accept Him as God you are calling Him a liar.

Fun fact, Jesus never called himself God.

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

Jumbo Shrimp said:
If you don't accept Him as God you are calling Him a liar.

And yet Jesus said, 'Why hast Thou forsaken Me.' And yet God is immortal, but Jesus was dead for three days.

Only a fundamentalist (or some other Pharisee) could condemn someone for not completely understanding a concept that is too complex for the human skull to contain.

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

moostraks said:
Lol...Does he? Tell us how that works...

Do you think that I say men don't make choices?

acptulsa · Sep 28, 2012

Sola_Fide said:
Do you think that I say men don't make choices?

I suggest everyone choose to step away from the keyboard. He'll have the last word if it takes him eighty pages.

Sola_Fide · Sep 28, 2012

moostraks said:
You define your views of Christianity and then demand all others tow the line or they are unbiblical. Your views lack the characteristics indicated by the fruit of the spirit.

No. The Bible defines what is Biblical. The Bible teaches that Jesus existed as God from all eternity, therefore Trinitarianism true.

pcosmar · Sep 28, 2012

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

DerailingDaTrain · Sep 28, 2012

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