Video update - Ron Paul on Fox News w/ Megyn Kelly 1/13/12

ryanmkeisling said:
LMAO @ them. They still need to wake up. It is amazing how many think they know better or they know what he should say and do?
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LMAO at elitism. It's fun playing games where we group people together based on join dates and admonish them for having thoughts as individuals.
 
ohgodno said:
LMAO at elitism. It's fun playing games where we group people together based on join dates and admonish them for having thoughts as individuals.
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Call it what you want to? It isn't a game. Pandering to sycophants and war mongers is not something Ron Paul is going to do or should do. Many of us are OK with that, in fact the liberty minded love him for it.

Individuals can think what they want, doesn't mean Dr. Paul is going to pander to them and throw fuel on their fire. That was a brilliant interview and Ron Paul owned her. Anyone who thinks different has a lot of thinking to do in general....
 
gunnysmith said:
But but but but they've already made that movie:
Camel Spiders (2011)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1618372/

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Hey, loved that movie - "How can you trust a man who wears a belt and suspenders."
 
Paul should've stated it differently.

Covert actions like this creates blowback, Iran will hate the US/Israel even MORE. If this came from Israel or the US - it's terrible, this does NOT serve the national interest of either Israel or the US, or any western nation. It actually plays RIGHT into the hands of the Iranian regime (leading to the conclusion that it might be them too).
 
I think the interview went great with Megyn(I hate that spelling.)
Ron Will be Honest, Megyn obviously likes him, despite what the teleprompter is telling her. This exposure was good.
 
ryanmkeisling said:
Call it what you want to? It isn't a game. Pandering to sycophants and war mongers is not something Ron Paul is going to do or should do. Many of us are OK with that, in fact the liberty minded love him for it.

Individuals can think what they want, doesn't mean Dr. Paul is going to pander to them and throw fuel on their fire. That was a brilliant interview and Ron Paul owned her. Anyone who thinks different has a lot of thinking to do in general....
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There's two parts to every bit of communication: what you say, and how you say it. This is what was being pointed out by many in this thread. All of the facts referenced by Dr. Paul here SPOT ON - this was an act of terror, all terrorism is evil even against our "enemies", reasons why Iran would never do what she implied they'd do in relation to the Straits, and then the quoted stats regarding electability.

It was merely the delivery that most were questioning.

We all love Doug Wead's interviews - he employs the techniques that were being suggested: frame response in light of question (or redirect the line of questioning), then show the absurdity question's premise with fact.
 
She is worried if Iran responds it may lead to an altercation. Well Im sure it will the troubling thing is that this is straight out of the Gingrich/Santorum foreign policy playbook and the call Dr. Paul dangerous.
 
ohgodno said:
There's two parts to every bit of communication: what you say, and how you say it. This is what was being pointed out by many in this thread. All of the facts referenced by Dr. Paul here SPOT ON - this was an act of terror, all terrorism is evil even against our "enemies", reasons why Iran would never do what she implied they'd do in relation to the Straits, and then the quoted stats regarding electability.

It was merely the delivery that most were questioning.

We all love Doug Wead's interviews - he employs the techniques that were being suggested: frame response in light of question (or redirect the line of questioning), then show the absurdity question's premise with fact.
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You have a gift with words, you just said what I've been thinking and haven't been able to articulate very well.
 
I haven't read all the posts, but thought of this: abhoring these assasinations is not that different from abhoring torture. If it's "un-American" to torture people, how could this be condoned? And really good points about Ahmadinejad's electability if interventions weren't uniting Iranians behind his administration.
Ron might as well say these things now so he has time to clarify any points the MSM or other candidates take out of context. His brutal honesty might provide some ammunition to opponents and the MSM, but getting it out there with the logic behind it and citing sources, could pretty much defuse it as an "issue bomb" in the debate. Lots of troops in the SC area will be explaining how they agree with Ron on this in their daily interactions with civilian SC residents.
The mental picture of the US supporting murder of scientists or actually participating in those acts should be reprehensible, especially to the Christian community said to statistically dominate the GOP in SC.
I really don't believe this will hurt him.
 
I really liked the interview. Ron made very good points about terrorism, about 9/11, about baseless fears regarding the closing of strait of Hermuz. He looked very reasonable to me. I think reason has extraordinary power. You really can't resist it. People will be bound to see things differently and continue to pursue this subject after the interview.
 
If we go to war with Iran over the Strait of Hormuz, we are LITERALLY going to war for OIL.

It's always been the sub-plot that the government has tried to deny - no it's for our freedom - no they were oppressing someone - no they started it - there's terrorists - blah blah blah

If we go to war with Iran this time, it is undeniably, unmistakably, obviously and plainly, going to war for OIL.
 
My take is some of the long time Paul supporters are so focused on the movement, which is a great thing, but have forgotten that this is a campaign. It is an election we can win. The movement wants to wake people up and educate. The thing is, you don't win an election with just a movement. The most successful movements don't get 51%. We have our movement base but we need to supplement it with other voters to put us over the top. The goal right now needs to be to win. He doesn't need to compromise anything. Just reduce the common denominator from where it is now down a few notches to appeal to Joe Blow. We know Ron will defend this country but the public doesn't. His answers do not inspire confidence to that denominator. Sure we can blame them but you can't blame the voters and expect to win.
 
Matthanuf06 said:
My take is some of the long time Paul supporters are so focused on the movement, which is a great thing, but have forgotten that this is a campaign. It is an election we can win. The movement wants to wake people up and educate. The thing is, you don't win an election with just a movement. The most successful movements don't get 51%. We have our movement base but we need to supplement it with other voters to put us over the top. The goal right now needs to be to win. He doesn't need to compromise anything. Just reduce the common denominator from where it is now down a few notches to appeal to Joe Blow. We know Ron will defend this country but the public doesn't. His answers do not inspire confidence to that denominator. Sure we can blame them but you can't blame the voters and expect to win.
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You nailed it!!!!!!!!!!
 
V3n said:
If we go to war with Iran over the Strait of Hormuz, we are LITERALLY going to war for OIL.

It's always been the sub-plot that the government has tried to deny - no it's for our freedom - no they were oppressing someone - no they started it - there's terrorists - blah blah blah

If we go to war with Iran this time, it is undeniably, unmistakably, obviously and plainly, going to war for OIL.
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I would deem it to be over their Central Bank. That is the real target. The USG basically admitted this today.

Rev9
 
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