Video update - Ron Paul on Fox News w/ Megyn Kelly 1/13/12

[jay_dub]

Kevin, I'm with you on this and seems these guys/girls will never get it. What I find funny is the hypocrisy of Ron, the campaign, and this board, I saw an E-mail from the campaign that was reposted here instructing supporters to "dress and act like Republicans". Where where all the "principles" arguments - it was silent. Funny how if the campaign compromises for the good of the election it's OK, if any of us peons suggest it we get attacked.

Ron should not have ever said let's empathize with Iran, nor should he have said killing their scientists was terrorism, I doubt if even liberals would agree with him on that, I'm almost starting to think Ron is an all-out pacifist and maybe the media does have a point at times.

Are you sure you're really for RP? Saying he's a hypocrite is going too far, don't you think?

As far as the 'dressing like Republicans'...I never saw that but will take your word on it. You seem to take personal insult at that, but it's just being practical. RP has the youth vote but not the older folks. Especially in light of the behavior of some young folks at the OWS this past year, it's just good sense to not give people any reason to have negative associations about RP, whether rightly or wrongly.

The fact is that no one can win a national election without substantial support from several demographics. Let's get real here.

BTW, I'm FAR from a liberal, but fully agree that assassinating scientists in their own country IS terrorism. What else would you call it?

 

[Bruno]

Nailed it!

 

[Bruno]

Ron should not have ever said let's empathize with Iran, nor should he have said killing their scientists was terrorism, I doubt if even liberals would agree with him on that, I'm almost starting to think Ron is an all-out pacifist and maybe the media does have a point at times.

The killing of the scientists was a murderous, terrorist act by the pure definition of those words.

 

[ohgodno]

The killing of the scientists was a murderous, terrorist act by the pure definition of those words.

Yep.

 

[robert9712000]

Kevin, Ron should not have ever said let's empathize with Iran, nor should he have said killing their scientists was terrorism, I doubt if even liberals would agree with him on that, I'm almost starting to think Ron is an all-out pacifist and maybe the media does have a point at times.

If our scientists were bombed while driving down the road you would call it a act of terrorism.It cant work only one way.Whats a terrorist act for one country is the same for another.Just being American doesnt somehow make us immune to ever being wrong.

 

[undergroundrr]

This thread has been incredibly helpful in cultivating my burgeoning ignore list.

I came here to celebrate the fact that the Fox audience was given a crystal clear picture of what's really happening with Iran by the most courageous and honest public figure on Earth. Thanks to the producers of Megan Kelly's program for making it possible. Thanks to Megan Kelly for asking about Iran. Thanks to Ron Paul for pointing out that the Terror Warriors are committing acts of terrorism. Thanks to Ron Paul for pointing out that these acts ASSURE the re-election of tyrannical a-holes like I'madinnerjacket in Iran.

Ron Paul's principled stand on the Iran issue is a major reason Michele Bachmann isn't even in the race any more. It's a major reason Newt Gingrich has been marginalized. It's a major reason Ron Paul is rising in the polls and has completely cornered the independents and crossover dems. I recommend some perspective.

 

[ord33]

I wouldn't get bent out of shape over an unextraordinary interview at 2:30 on a weekday afternoon. Megyn Kelly is just your typical FNC asshat singing the familiar tune.

I think that Ron Paul did pretty well from a logical and truth perspective on the question about Iran. However, it will not be seen that way from voters in South Carolina. Also, you can pretty much guarantee the question (or something similar) will be asked in the upcoming debates. The moderator and all of the other candidates will jump all over him for it and it won't be pretty.

I was going to post yesterday that they were going to use this question against him. I thought they'd wait until the debates, but they proved me wrong here.

 

[jay_dub]

The killing of the scientists was a murderous, terrorist act by the pure definition of those words.

Maybe we could call it 'enhanced diplomacy'.

 

[KingNothing]

As an engineer in the nuclear industry, I'm happy that no one is terrorizing Americans who are working to power our country -and Evil China(!)- with nuclear energy.


I'd hate to be exploded.

 

[KingNothing]

I wish RP would emphasize that he would protect the country. seriously, that's all republicans need to hear to get on board and RP DOES want to invest in national defense, it's just that he spends too much time educating and not enough about what he would DO. Republicans think RP would invite an attack on the US and say it's our fault, they really think that. perception is everything, he needs to hammer home that he would protect the country and the bring the troops home to protect us.

Ron quite literally says that every time a mic is in front of him and a question about foreign policy is asked.

 

[Lord Xar]

I personally thought RP did quite well in that interview. His answers were rational, concise and not fringe thinking at all. He didn't come off as a peace-nik but showed the error of intervention. And he's looking more 'presidential' every time I see him these days.

Cosign.
Though i would like to see him more aggressive on the electability issue

 

[dillo]

the only reason I respect Megyn Kelly is because she flat out tells Oreilly he is an idiot occasionally. Anyone deserves + internets for that

 

[KingNothing]

the only reason I respect Megyn Kelly is because she flat out tells Oreilly he is an idiot occasionally. Anyone deserves + internets for that

And she's hot.

 

[ord33]

Whether Ron Paul is right or not (and I believe he is right) - the media and the other candidates will spin it differently.

You can be assured that the other Republican candidates will say that the Sanctions and killings of the Nuclear Scientists achieved their goals because now Iran wants to talk about the nuclear facilities. They could even say that these activities (although they are an act of war/terrorism in themselves) are what brought the United States to have diplomatic solutions (instead of war) with Iran because now they want to sit down and talk.

This is going to be a hard one for Ron Paul to win no matter what because of the media and the other Republican candidates spinning the message. They just don't realize that it was our hostile actions are what causes them to want to retaliate (such as closing the Strait of Hormuz).

I agree with an earlier post that said if Iran says that Mossad/Israel did it then he wouldn't interfere and condemn them for it since they must have believed it helped their security. That is probably about the best thing that Ron Paul could say in my opinion. However, the follow up question would probably be something like "If Iran attacked Israel back for the killing of the Iranian scientists would you stand by Israel and have the United States work with them to defend themselves."

 

[Fredom101]

And she's hot.

+1

 

[gunnysmith]

He continually falls into their traps on these questions on Iran.

"What would you do if Iran followed through and shut down the Straits of Hormuz?"
The question isn't would they - or could they (we all know they can't) - the question is IF THEY DID.

She's asking that precisely because he'll give the reality of the situation (and thus falls into the trap) - which makes him seem to the FOX viewer to be weak and appeasing to Iran. It's all about perception - the people watching FOX don't respond to facts - they respond to perception.

He's got to respond to the hypothetical - regardless of how batshit insane the hypotheticals are:
"If Iran trained an army of spider monkeys to choke Americans and released them in the U.S., killing 1,500 people, what would President Paul do?"

He'd have to respond as if the evidence proved Iran did it - "I'd go before congress and ask for a declaration of war against Iran."

All people want to hear is that he'd defend the country, that is all.

But but but but they've already made that movie:
Camel Spiders (2011)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1618372/

 

[georgiaboy]

This is going to be a hard one for Ron Paul to win no matter what

his specialty.

They could even say that these activities (although they are an act of war/terrorism in themselves) are what brought the United States to have diplomatic solutions (instead of war) with Iran because now they want to sit down and talk.

I emphasized 'now' because no one wants to come to the bargaining table with a gun pointed at them. When faced with tyranny, especially outside your country, what would you do? What does that say for the longer term safety of the US in this situation? Will we never learn?

 

[georgiaboy]

This thread has been incredibly helpful in cultivating my burgeoning ignore list.

I came here to celebrate the fact that the Fox audience was given a crystal clear picture of what's really happening with Iran by the most courageous and honest public figure on Earth. Thanks to the producers of Megan Kelly's program for making it possible. Thanks to Megan Kelly for asking about Iran. Thanks to Ron Paul for pointing out that the Terror Warriors are committing acts of terrorism. Thanks to Ron Paul for pointing out that these acts ASSURE the re-election of tyrannical a-holes like I'madinnerjacket in Iran.

Ron Paul's principled stand on the Iran issue is a major reason Michele Bachmann isn't even in the race any more. It's a major reason Newt Gingrich has been marginalized. It's a major reason Ron Paul is rising in the polls and has completely cornered the independents and crossover dems. I recommend some perspective.

+rep

 

[Butchie]

Are you sure you're really for RP? Saying he's a hypocrite is going too far, don't you think?

As far as the 'dressing like Republicans'...I never saw that but will take your word on it. You seem to take personal insult at that, but it's just being practical. RP has the youth vote but not the older folks. Especially in light of the behavior of some young folks at the OWS this past year, it's just good sense to not give people any reason to have negative associations about RP, whether rightly or wrongly.

The fact is that no one can win a national election without substantial support from several demographics. Let's get real here.

BTW, I'm FAR from a liberal, but fully agree that assassinating scientists in their own country IS terrorism. What else would you call it?

But again, the campaign says know your audience and therefore dress and behave to give them a good impression and you say it's practical, if I suggest Ron rephrase, NOT CHANGE, the way he articulates his foreign policy views you question my support of the cause. Can none of you understand you are not preaching to me, I am merely bringing up how this will be percieved by Republicans and more importantly how the media will spin it. Ron doesn't have to lie but he does need to learn how to play smart.

BTW, no, I didn't take personal insult, in fact I completely agree with the campaign on the looking clean cut, I look like a "typcial conservative" already anyhow and when I went to a RP debate I was pretty suprised at alot of the people there, one guy even had vampire fangs, not that there's anything wrong with it, but I doubt he would win over to many good ole small town church goers.

 

[JJ2]

Cosign.
Though i would like to see him more aggressive on the electability issue

Yes, I'm glad he mentioned the poll where he is tied with Obama, but I wish he would have said that the reason people think he is the "weakest candidate" against Obama is because the media has created that perception, even though it is not reality.

On Iran, hopefully people will see from that interview that he is the only one making sense on Iran. And I love how he kept bringing it back to the fact that we are harming the dissidents' chances of overthrowing the regime!