Video update - Ron Paul on Fox News w/ Megyn Kelly 1/13/12

[Zak]

If the media asks about that poll again, the campaign needs to say that the perceptions of those 33% clearly do not reflect reality, as evidenced by the polling data, independent support, etc. Then add that Ron Paul has huge upside because when those 33% learn that he actually can beat Obama, many of them should switch to his side since electability is such an important issue.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

And unfortunately RP said nothing to refute that point. He needs a strong "when the national security of the United States is threatened I will work in concert with the Congress, the military, and our allies to eliminate that threat with swift, decisive and overwhelming action in accordance with the Constitution."

My opinion - which is worth exactly what you are paying for it - is that this interview was a net negative.

He's not a hawk, he's not going to answer a stupid hypothetical with threats of full-scale war.

 

[musicmax]

LOL @ all the 2011/12 join dates freaking out.

For the record I'm a 1988 Paul voter, a 2007 RPF joiner and a 2008 RP Meetup Organizer in a Top 25 MSA, whose account got botched and accidentally deleted. So I have a Dec 2011 join date.

 

[musicmax]

He's not a hawk, he's not going to answer a stupid hypothetical with threats of full-scale war.

Ahem.

Ron Paul On A Hypothetical Panama Canal Threat: "All-Out" War If Declared By Congress

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I know. He'd go to congress, ask them what they think, if they declare war he sends in the military to end it swiftly and come home with no nation building. A perfect answer to the totally hypothetical(and unlikely) scenario. He didn't say that though in this interview when he had an excellent oppotunity to do so.

Because that's not his stance. His stance is that it's not a big deal. That's also not a perfect answer. Responding to a threat of a potential closure with full-scale war? There's a reason he doesn't use the Congressional declaration answer often - because it's a ridiculous assertion.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

He tried to make the point that the average Iranian is currently against the anti-American government, but not for long if outside forces keep interfering. It's a good point, and hopefully he can work with his team on a better version of this answer.

My feeling is that he really is dumbfounded that people don't already agree with him. (If he understood it better, his voice wouldn't rise in incredulity and exasperation every time he talks about this.) Maybe someone can get him some numbers showing that most Americans think Iranians are Arabs, or something, and then he might understand the depths of ignorance he's facing.

Correct, the neocon media world is an upside down world that you really have to experience up close to know how bizarre it is, it is a world where Iran is threatening us and we are defending ourselves. The Fox viewer doesn't connect our threats to attack Iran with their threat to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to an American attack, they think Iran would close the Strait just for the hell of it because they hate America.

 

[orenbus]

LOL, that sleezebag network made sure to go to a break as soon as Ron was owning that electability question. Bet they were screaming in her ear to cut him off.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind it if he stopped going on her show. It's not like it's in a primetime slot and most people are at work when it airs. She's asks stupid hypotheticals all the time, and when she isn't doing that she's trying to get him into saying things that can be framed negatively. And screw you too, Rasmussen.

Actually the day time slots are what is needed, most retired/elderly folk are at home during the day watching fox news and listening to conservative radio, I agree with the rest of what you say though.

 

[musicmax]

Can someone please make a tube of all the interviews where suddenly they have to go to a commercial when RP is giving a good answer?

Interviewer: "I would ask you how your racist newsletters and blame-America-for-9/11 stance would hurt your third-party run, but we only have six seconds 'til a hard network break."

 

[mavtek]

Yea, seriously, the interview went ok, but it doesn't do anything for the campaign. Don't go on her show anymore, there's no point. It's just annoying.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Ahem.

Ron Paul On A Hypothetical Panama Canal Threat: "All-Out" War If Declared By Congress

Ahem.

The media is not running a 24/7 Panama war propaganda fest.

Also, Iran is not a threat to our national security in any fashion even with a closure with the Strait of Hormuz, so not a valid comparison.

 

[LibertyEagle]

And unfortunately RP said nothing to refute that point. He needs a strong "when the national security of the United States is threatened I will work in concert with the Congress, the military, and our allies to eliminate that threat with swift, decisive and overwhelming action in accordance with the Constitution."

My opinion - which is worth exactly what you are paying for it - is that this interview was a net negative.

I agree. Boy, do I ever agree.

 

[LisaNY]

I wouldn't get bent out of shape over an unextraordinary interview at 2:30 on a weekday afternoon. Megyn Kelly is just your typical FNC asshat singing the familiar tune.

Fox is hosting the next debate, so what they'll do is bring up something that was said in that interview and spin it to try to make RP look bad.

 

[ohgodno]

Questions surrounding Iran are not hypotheticals, they are propaganda. Giving an answer would be giving legitimacy to that propaganda.

Understood. But again - it's about the aim of the question: "Will you defend the country?"

I don't care if she asks about what he would do if mutant alligators with heartburn attacked the U.S. – he shouldn't respond by dismissing it - because it appears to the people watching that he is dismissing an attack and wouldn't defend the country.

 

[musicmax]

Understood. But again - it's about the aim of the question: "Will you defend the country?"

I don't care if she asks about what he would do if mutant alligators with heartburn attacked the U.S. – he shouldn't respond by dismissing it - because it appears to the people watching that he is dismissing an attack and wouldn't defend the country.

US policy angered the alligators.

 

[rachmiel]

Fox is hosting the next debate, so what they'll do is bring up something that was said in that interview and spin it to try to make RP look bad.

You can count on them to try and sabotage him regardless. And since Ron doesn't seem to give rehearsed answers, it's basically a crapshoot whether he hits it out of the park or not.

 

[ohgodno]

US policy angered the alligators.

Well we DO poo into their homes: the sewer system.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Understood. But again - it's about the aim of the question: "Will you defend the country?"

I don't care if she asks about what he would do if mutant alligators with heartburn attacked the U.S. – he shouldn't respond by dismissing it - because it appears to the people watching that he is dismissing an attack and wouldn't defend the country.

Dismissing it is the proper answer. Besides, in dismissing it, he said that Iran would be wiped out in 40 minutes if they did something. Should he say that he'd not only blow up the entire country, but drop a nuke on Brazil, too? To show that he's tough?

 

[unknown]

This is the response to any "electability" issues.

Poll: Romney, Paul Tie Obama

Also, the fact that hes won 12 times.

Santorum lost in the largest defeat in the history of Pennsylvania and Romney has lost more times than he's won, which was once...

 

[RPIdeaMan08]

Have you ever stopped to think that the media thinks they are representing the people. They ask questions about electability and such to give Paul an opportunity to tell the public otherwise. Yet in the end they help reinforce issues that are created by elite news makers who once again think that their opinions represent the people. Until now this has been the source of the media's anti Paul hype. What has changed? Winning, so they are forced to see that the people views are not in line with their stories and thus the cycle is broken.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Closing the Straight of Hormuz was state by a General in the Revolutionary Guard. Not the official government statement and it was retracted. The general was a little pissed because his buddy General was assassinated 6 months ago.

Western Corporate Media is distorting the truth and as usual blowing it completely out of proportion.

Still RP needs to be Stern, Clear, and Exact on such threats and reality for the dumbed-down public.