[Video] Beck rips Ron Paul's 9/11 debate answer

[jct74]

Beck says Ron Paul has "sealed it", he could "never ever" vote for Ron Paul, but goes on to agree with some aspects of Ron Paul's foreign policy platform.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/09/13/why-was-ron-paul-the-big-loser-in-the-debate-last-night/

 

[Kords21]

So Beck would vote for Obama if it's between Obama/Paul? Yeah, let's not listen to the people that attacked us, why they attacked us. It seems that Beck like Santorum just can critcally think and see things for what they are.

 

[ctiger2]

Beck would never vote for Paul anyhow. He's a Zionist extremist nutter.

Here's Beck's priority list:

1. Israel
2. Israel
3. Israel
4. Israel
5. Israel
6. Israel
7. Israel
8. Israel
9. Israel
10. The United States

 

[Brett85]

You can’t export democracy. They don’t want it. They don’t understand it. That’s fine. They attack us. We pound them into glass, and then we go home. We don’t fix their stuff. They don’t have stuff to fix. They don’t mind it. They’re fine with it. Who’re we to impose our values on them? Great. You live any way you want. You screw with us, we pound you back into the stone age where you already are. We drive back into your cave. We kill all the people who tried to kill us, and then we go home,” Glenn said.

“If you want to not mess with us we’ll be your friends. You want to be a friendly state to us. We’ll be friendly state to you. You want to be a jerk we pound you into sand. I’m not so I can spread democracy so I can protect my people, and my economy. I’ll trade with everybody. I’ll help anybody. But you screw with us. You screw with our economy. You screw with our people, I pound you into glass. Period,” Glenn said.

I actually agree with everything he said there. He didn't advocate intervention in that article.

 

[EWM]

Beck would never vote for Paul anyhow. He's a Zionist extremist nutter.

Here's Beck's priority list:

1. Israel
2. Israel
3. Israel
4. Israel
5. Israel
6. Israel
7. Israel
8. Israel
9. Israel
10. The United States

I don't think that's true. Many people are just unsure of what will happen to Israel if support is cut off. I personally think they should be free to kick some ass if they want, but I understand the concern. Ron Paul hasn't done much to engage in the discussion.

 

[brandon]

Save yourself 10 minutes and don't watch the video OP posted.

 

[Kords21]

I forced myself to listen to 95% of it and I dont' quite get what Beck is so angry about. He rails on Paul for his stance on our troops overseas and then goes on to say that we need to pull them back? Then he goes on to say that Bin Laden had Marxist help for defeafting the Soviets. I don't think even Beck knows what he's trying to say. His two butt pals are very Anti-Paul that it's almost a mental condition with them. I still don't understand why it's so wrong to tell people the reasons for being attacked by the people who attacked us. Seems almost Orwellian to say "Damn Ron for telling us why Osama attacked us. He's wrong and it's all about our freedoms/way of life. We know it to be true. Don't bother with listening to the people who attacked us". The sad thing is that people actually fall for it.

What's even funnier to me is that Beck and his ilk will go on about being dependent on gov't for everything. I think that dependencey extends to information as well. Beck will be Beck carrying that torch for Israel and all of thier polices at our expense. Wonder if he's ever heard of the USS Liberty incident.

 

[The Magic Hoof]

Can someone clear something up for me? I don't know too much about foreign policy, but from what I've read, I think the USA probably hasn't played their cards 100% right overseas. But here is something I noticed about what Beck said:

Beck said that RP wants to end all of the military bases around the world and bring the troops home. I pretty much agree with that, but the mention of military bases got me thinking... would it really be smarter to not have military bases around the world? Because hypothetically if we were dragged into a war somehow, we wouldn't have any bases to use anywhere and we could benefit from that, at least in a particular way.

I do however, understand that our presence isn't liked over there and that it can potentially make us more unsafe. So basically my question is this: is it legal to have a military base in some other country? Because if so, maybe we can at least shut down 850 of our bases and leave just a few, just in case. Just an idea.

Another thing I want to clarify is this: HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE END UP HAVING 900 BASES AROUND THE WORLD IN THE FIRST PLACE? What was our reasoning for it? Did some other country screw with us so we had to occupy all 130? If so, give me links to it. Did someone instigate something that made us want to? Or did we actually just march in there and install a base for a completely, utterly 'just in case' future-proof scenario?

 

[AJ187]

You can’t export democracy. They don’t want it. They don’t understand it. That’s fine. They attack us. We pound them into glass, and then we go home. We don’t fix their stuff. They don’t have stuff to fix. They don’t mind it. They’re fine with it. Who’re we to impose our values on them? Great. You live any way you want. You screw with us, we pound you back into the stone age where you already are. We drive back into your cave. We kill all the people who tried to kill us, and then we go home,” Glenn said.

“If you want to not mess with us we’ll be your friends. You want to be a friendly state to us. We’ll be friendly state to you. You want to be a jerk we pound you into sand. I’m not so I can spread democracy so I can protect my people, and my economy. I’ll trade with everybody. I’ll help anybody. But you screw with us. You screw with our economy. You screw with our people, I pound you into glass. Period,” Glenn said.

I actually agree with everything he said there. He didn't advocate intervention in that article.

I don't think beck ever served in the Armed Forces. What a hawk.

 

[amyre]

Save yourself 10 minutes and don't watch the video OP posted.

Sincerely, thank you for the heads up. I was going to watch it, but don't feel as though my blood pressure has fully returned to normal after the debate-booing last night. I'll skip this one, and move along.

 

[Brett85]

I don't think beck ever served in the Armed Forces. What a hawk.

But the weird thing is that Beck spouts non interventionist rhetoric in this video that is similiar to what Ron usually says. But yet he still criticizes Ron for whatever reason. It just seems like people like Beck don't like the way the Ron frames his foreign policy views, rather than disagreeing with his actual foreign policy views. Like I've said before, Ron has a messaging problem. He has to change that if he wants to have any chance at all to win the GOP primary.

 

[Kords21]

@the magic hoof: I think the reason why we have so many bases around the world is that it's profitable for the host country. When I was deployed to Kuwait at the very start of Iraqi Freedom the land in Kuwait thay my camp was on was being leased by the Kuwaiti gov't at very staggering price/day. Kuwiat just like all these other companies like Haliburton and KBR made a killing off that war. The left is always talking about the the virtues of European socialism, but the US taxpayer subsidizes that by having our military bases there. If Germany can save say 20 billion/year on defense cause the US is there then of course they can afford social programs. Is it any wonder that our social programs are broke?

 

[TNforPaul45]

This absolutely proves my point that the Paul campaign needs to dedicate time to an Official Foreign Policy video, because there is SO much misinformation and misunderstanding and skew regarding his stances.

He cannot answer a question like this in 30 seconds.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ial-Campaign-foreign-policy-clarification-vid

 

[No Free Beer]

its pretty disturbing that he doesnt seem to understand the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist. Sad indeed.

 

[HRD53]

But the weird thing is that Beck spouts non interventionist rhetoric in this video that is similiar to what Ron usually says. But yet he still criticizes Ron for whatever reason. It just seems like people like Beck don't like the way the Ron frames his foreign policy views, rather than disagreeing with his actual foreign policy views. Like I've said before, Ron has a messaging problem. He has to change that if he wants to have any chance at all to win the GOP primary.

I agree 100% with what you just said... I'm really starting to think Rand will be the better messenger... I just hope its not a diluted message!

 

[The Magic Hoof]

But I mean, when we occupied these countries, was there any official explanation or news release about why we're building these bases and going over to these countries? And also, I understand how it's beneficial for the host country, but what's the story about how it's beneficial for us?

 

[Billay]

Glenn was probably sauced when he made those comments.

 

[wizardwatson]

I didn't watch the debate but after watching this GB clip I am now more cynical about our prospects in 2012.

I mean WTF? did we not go over this shit about what caused 9/11 in 2008? Same retarded line issued from Santorums mouth about them hating us because of our "exceptionalism". If these douchebags actually believe this tripe then they are as intelligent as 12 year olds.

I'm just sick of this shit for real. No one cares about the truth, its all about me, me, me. My talk show. My audience. My ideas. My money. My election. My legacy. Seriously though, this foreign policy shit should be a no-brainer. I can forgive douchebags and their retarded economic policies because understanding economics requires a little effort. But a 10 year old could deduce what the proper action should be related to foreign policy.

Anyway, I could rant all day, just pure disgust. If we can't get some consensus on a sane foreign policy this country deserves whatever comes our way.

EDIT: oh, yeah, and this clip forever ended whatever speck of desire I had to listen or read what douchebag GB thinks on anything.

 

[AuH20]

But the weird thing is that Beck spouts non interventionist rhetoric in this video that is similiar to what Ron usually says. But yet he still criticizes Ron for whatever reason. It just seems like people like Beck don't like the way the Ron frames his foreign policy views, rather than disagreeing with his actual foreign policy views. Like I've said before, Ron has a messaging problem. He has to change that if he wants to have any chance at all to win the GOP primary.

Ron has the George McGovern problem which I documented. He talks like George McGovern, in that U.S. is always the only problem and always with a tinge of pacifism, so it's only natural to see conservatives like Glenn recoil in horror. Ron acts like an apologist for Palestinians and Iranians, instead of simply saying "they don't deserve our attention." Also, Ron always likes to twist the dagger. That's what really pisses people off and I understand why.

 

[pcosmar]

But, But, but,,,,

Beck is our friend,,,,
He's coming around,,,
he's on our side,,,

Bullshit. He is a Propagandist. A professional manipulator of public opinion.