[Video] Beck rips Ron Paul's 9/11 debate answer

[Kords21]

Well it's not beneficial for the American people, but it's very beneficial for all the corporations that have their tentacles into our gov't. As far as what's said in news releases in other countries, I'm with you, not really sure how they get the people to go along with it, unless like I said they announce it then say that it'll save the country X amount of money to spend on the people. Either way the American people are getting played. The best that we get is to wave the flag and listen to Toby Keith?

 

[michaelkellenger]

Isn't Beck a former drug addict and alcoholic (probably still is). Not to mention he must have some type of mental disorder.

 

[miyavi]

I do agree with glen beck when he says we don't fix their countries LOL thats about it and bring troops home.

 

[RP Supporter]

The last time I saw Beck interview Paul he made sure to finish by asking him his stance on Israel.

I am so sick of Israel. True third rail of American politics.

So yeah. Beck's still a neocon. God Forbid we ever do anything but just bomb countries that disagree with us.

 

[phill4paul]

But, But, but,,,,

Beck is our friend,,,,
He's coming around,,,
he's on our side,,,

Bullshit. He is a Propagandist. A professional manipulator of public opinion.

Ha! Are people STILL defending this P.O.S. LOL.

 

[Brett85]

Ron has the George McGovern problem which I documented. He talks like George McGovern, in that U.S. is always the only problem and always with a tinge of pacifism, so it's only natural to see conservatives like Glenn recoil in horror. Ron acts like an apologist for Palestinians and Iranians, instead of simply saying "they don't deserve our attention." Also, Ron always likes to twist the dagger. That's what really pisses people off and I understand why.

Yeah. This is what I posted on Facebook regarding what Ron should've said in the debate. You can support non intervention and still sound tough at the same time.

"I don't believe that we deserved to get attacked on 9-11. I'm not blaming America for the attacks on 9-11. I believe that we got attacked by a dispicable group of terrorists, and we had every right to defend ourselves and fight back. However, we should not have attacked countries that had nothing to do with 9-11 such as Iraq, and we should not be nation building in Afghanistan. Having our troops spread out so thin around the world takes away from our defenses here at home and makes us less safe. Also, even though we have good intentions when we intervene overseas, sometimes there are unintended consequences to our actions. Our foreign policy decisions do not justify attacks on our soil, but we need to be careful not to further inflame Muslims in the Middle East. We would be better off trying to bring moderate Muslims over to our side."

 

[AuH20]

I agree 100% with what you just said... I'm really starting to think Rand will be the better messenger... I just hope its not a diluted message!

I sincerely hope that Ron's baggage doesn't follow Rand in the future. You know sure as well, they're going to dig up some of Ron's controversial statements and stick it to Rand's forehead, when the time is right.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

That video made no sense. Glen Beck contradicts himself. First he says Ron Paul is a wrong about foreign policy, but then goes on how he supports the same foreign policy as Ron Paul.

WTF???

 

[fearthereaperx]

That video just proves the cognitive dissonance beginning to resound throughout the neo-cons and pro-war crowd.

He basically totally rips Paul on foreign policy at the start of the video than, not realizing it, completely agrees with him on foreign policy towards the end of the video when Beck starts logically framing the argument in his own words. He's trying to have it both ways, but he can't.

 

[AuH20]

That video made no sense. Glen Beck contradicts himself. First he says Ron Paul is a wrong about foreign policy, but then goes on how he supports the same foreign policy as Ron Paul.

WTF???

I told you that Ron's rhetoric is poisonous as opposed to his policies. He has a major messaging problem.

 

[Brett85]

That video just proves the cognitive dissonance beginning to resound throughout the neo-cons and pro-war crowd.

He basically totally rips Paul on foreign policy at the start of the video than, not realizing it, completely agrees with him on foreign policy towards the end of the video when Beck starts logically framing the argument in his own words. He's trying to have it both ways, but he can't.

Yes, it should be quite clear to everybody that Ron has a big messaging problem. His foreign policy views would be quite popular among Republicans if they were just framed in the right way.

 

[Chieppa1]

Why do we still care about Beck?

 

[sluggo]

Glenn Beck is a dangerous extremist who urges his flock to send their children off to die in wars that make us less safe and less free.

He is a fringe-dwelling kook who should be shunned by thinking people everywhere.

 

[Chieppa1]

+rep.

 

[Chieppa1]

Glenn Beck is a dangerous extremist who urges his flock to send their children off to die in wars that make us less safe and less free.

He is a fringe-dwelling kook who should be shunned by thinking people everywhere.

+rep

 

[wizardwatson]

Yes, it should be quite clear to everybody that Ron has a big messaging problem. His foreign policy views would be quite popular among Republicans if they were just framed in the right way.

There's nothing wrong with RP's message. They are just saying that Ron "agrees" with OBL which is slanderous. Ron is right on foreign policy and everyone else is wrong. Rather than debate actual policy points they try to frame Ron as some sort of terrorist enabler. Makes me sick.

To me foreign policy is not one of many issues, it is THE issue. And the response these people are giving to Ron's stance is appalling, disgusting, and intellectually dishonest.

The hubris of people in this country concerning foreign policy is just mind-boggling.

 

[Brett85]

Glenn Beck is a dangerous extremist who urges his flock to send their children off to die in wars that make us less safe and less free.

He is a fringe-dwelling kook who should be shunned by thinking people everywhere.

Did you actually listen to the video? He said that he supports ending the wars overseas, which is the same position that Ron has. He just disagrees with the way that Ron presents the issue.

 

[Brett85]

There's nothing wrong with RP's message. They are just saying that Ron "agrees" with OBL which is slanderous. Ron is right on foreign policy and everyone else is wrong. Rather than debate actual policy points they try to frame Ron as some sort of terrorist enabler. Makes me sick.

To me foreign policy is not one of many issues, it is THE issue. And the response these people are giving to Ron's stance is appalling, disgusting, and intellectually dishonest.

The hubris of people in this country concerning foreign policy is just mind-boggling.

Right, there is nothing wrong with Ron Paul's message. There's just a big problem with the way that he frames his message. In the last two minutes of this video, Beck completely agrees with Ron's foreign policy views but just frames it in a completely different way.

 

[misconstrued]

That video is infuriating. How fucking stupid can people be. Beck attacks Ron Paul and then contradicts himself entirely. I don't even get what pissed him off because he says we should not be over there and our foreign policy is wrong and he starts quoting Bin Laden himself after screaming about Ron Paul quoting Bin Laden. It boggles the mind.

 

[fearthereaperx]

I told you that Ron's rhetoric is poisonous as opposed to his policies. He has a major messaging problem.

He knows this..he's mentioned before that he is: 'an imperfect messenger carrying a perfect message'

And his rhetoric is common sense and the truth which should never be considered poisonous. Sure, others might be able to package the message better stylistically, but, I doubt they would have the balls necessary for it to carry the weight it actually needs to generate enough controversy so that the message gets out, in the first place, in the mainstream--something which Ron Paul has succeeded in doing so thus far.