Vets have broken down barricades at Lincoln Memorial and are carrying them to the White House

[phill4paul]

False equivolence.

Not necessarily. Take BDTF's post...

But you also assume that being a victim of kidnapping (the draft) does make you responsible, and what you're doing is blaming the kidnapping victim?

Add to the kidnapping and societal pressure (most every draftees father was a WWII vet, media, church, community) "Stockholm Syndrome." I'm sure you're aware of this term.

In an earlier post you mentioned that you "know everything about the military." Without having served you can not know how the military conditions an individual. It is a brain wash. And as much as you would like to think you could stand up to it you will never know until you have participated in it.

I think you should sympathize a bit with what individuals that have lived through it are communicating to you. I understand that is a hard thing to do. You are 18 and the world is your oyster.

 

[MelissaWV]

It's always a special level of depressing when people log on to a website with a VETERAN'S PHOTO AT THE TOP, and several military and ex-military members who tried their damnedest to get him elected, or themselves ran for office, in order to TRASH VETERANS.

 

[phill4paul]

It's always a special level of depressing when people log on to a website with a VETERAN'S PHOTO AT THE TOP, and several military and ex-military members who tried their damnedest to get him elected, or themselves ran for office, in order to TRASH VETERANS.

You're going to have to be more specific. There are as many viewpoints as there is individual members in this thread. It's RPF at it's finest.

 

[MelissaWV]

You're going to have to be more specific. There are as many viewpoints as there is individual members in this thread. It's RPF at it's finest.

Oh, in this case FF is the loudest, but it happens regularly on the forums.

 

[phill4paul]

Oh, in this case FF is the loudest, but it happens regularly on the forums.

Well, we are an assorted lot. If we can believe what is written then FF is young man. Exposed to many things. Of course he could be a sock-puppet. He could be a alphabet agency agent provocateur. It's the internet. Unless the forums screen then I don't see that changing.

 

[XNavyNuke]

lol @ the Praetorian Snipers on top of the White House roof. Yeah, Free my Ass...

As usual, TPTB are focused on the Front Lawn while the REAL pillaging is going on in the back lawn. They could a least complete their monthly quals AND save dinner.

Squirrels go nuts for First Lady’s garden in shutdown

“The squirrels are always a problem in the garden, eating the berry crop in the summer months,” notes Kohan. “But they’re now kids in a candy store, gorging themselves” on Sungolds and other tomatoes.

... or a welfare Princess with the limit accidently removed from the EBT card.

XNN

 

[tod evans]

FF,

Are you signed up for "selective service" or whatever they're calling it?

I had to for financial aid*, so yes. If there was actually a draft I don't see why it would matter, I'd be an outlaw at that point regardless of whether I had signed up or not.

*I do not believe finaid should exist.

So it's okay to sign your name (give your word), on what we all know is the new draft documents, in order to get fed-money that you disagree with....

And then say you'll dishonor your own signature due to moral objections..

I don't know dude....

 

[Elias Graves]

LOL....not to pull this further off-topic, but you've already said it many times. If they re-instated the draft, it wouldn't matter that you wouldn't continue to say it. You've said it enough times for them to hunt you down already.

As long as we're a little off-topic, how do you feel about paying taxes for abortions under Obamacare?

We've decided how to deal with it. Self insured now and fines be damned.

 

[phill4paul]

As usual, TPTB are focused on the Front Lawn while the REAL pillaging is going on in the back lawn. They could a least complete their monthly quals AND save dinner.

Squirrels go nuts for First Lady’s garden in shutdown



... or a welfare Princess with the limit accidently removed from the EBT card.

XNN

Booyaa! Can a cracker get a grant?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?425531-Has-anyone-ever-slow-smoked-a-squirrel

 

[phill4paul]

So it's okay to sign your name (give your word), on what we all know is the new draft documents, in order to get fed-money that you disagree with....

And then say you'll dishonor your own signature due to moral objections..

I don't know dude....

I don't either.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

It's always a special level of depressing when people log on to a website with a VETERAN'S PHOTO AT THE TOP, and several military and ex-military members who tried their damnedest to get him elected, or themselves ran for office, in order to TRASH VETERANS.

It is ironic that our inflationary system, which is what allows financial aid to be divvied out, is responsible for death and misery the world over yet FF has no reservations of accepting it. I have no sympathy or adoration for soldiers who actively want[ed] to kill but most soldiers were just kids tricked by blind patriotism and a lack of opportunity. Much as most people who take the blood money are as well. (kids being scammed into a lifetime of debt through the lack of many (if any) other options) To be clear, I am speaking of the credit guaranteed out of the blood and sweat of all and available out of the bones of foreigners.

 

[Origanalist]

I don't either.

Neither do I.

 

[Origanalist]

Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
I had to for financial aid*, so yes. If there was actually a draft I don't see why it would matter, I'd be an outlaw at that point regardless of whether I had signed up or not.

*I do not believe finaid should exist.

Yet you signed up for it. I may have missed the reason why, didn't go back that far. Are you currently receiving aid?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Yet you signed up for it. I may have missed the reason why, didn't go back that far. Are you currently receiving aid?

Financial Aid is Pell Grants and Stafford Loans. Anyone is approved to go to college and receive schooling. Last I heard, about a year ago, the debt students owe because of financial aid tops a trillion dollars.

Generally speaking the why is because all you're told throughout school is that without higher education you are worthless as a prospective employee. The interest rates are low, the money freely available, not much other opportunity otherwise, a majority of students today receive it. What they don't tell them is there are not enough jobs as there are prospective employees and that their time and money was wasted. Not to mention being forever indebted.

I actually found a picture earlier that sums it up nicely.

 

[Dr.3D]

Financial Aid is Pell Grants and Stafford Loans. Anyone is approved to go to college and receive schooling. Last I heard, about a year ago, the debt students owe because of financial aid tops a trillion dollars.

Generally speaking the why is because all you're told throughout school is that without higher education you are worthless as a prospective employee. The interest rates are low, the money freely available, not much other opportunity otherwise, a majority of students today receive it. What they don't tell them is there are not enough jobs as there are prospective employees and that their time and money was wasted. Not to mention being forever indebted.

I actually found a picture earlier that sums it up nicely.

This whole thing seems like a conspiracy to funnel tax money into the "educational" institutions.

 

[Origanalist]

This whole thing seems like a conspiracy to funnel tax money into the "educational" institutions.

Ya, no shit. Ok, correct me if I'm wrong here FF. But you're in college?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

NOT TO JUMP the thread... Has anyone read the Immigration Bill and establishment lifetime US Senator Patrick Leahy's amendments to Rubios S.744 garbage?

The bill has Leahy's JUST-US establishment amendments... The Bill has allocates $1/2 Billion to pay for Border Patrol/DHS employees' student loan/college debt, government will payoff/reimbursement those debts upon hiring.

These fucktards need to be exposed, for every single word.
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...gQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNECoqqVM-X16WcHR3SF7J6ivWEHfg

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...wQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHNBJAlKqRzy0OB0KS_w3znHQzv7g

Financial Aid is Pell Grants and Stafford Loans. Anyone is approved to go to college and receive schooling. Last I heard, about a year ago, the debt students owe because of financial aid tops a trillion dollars.

Generally speaking the why is because all you're told throughout school is that without higher education you are worthless as a prospective employee. The interest rates are low, the money freely available, not much other opportunity otherwise, a majority of students today receive it. What they don't tell them is there are not enough jobs as there are prospective employees and that their time and money was wasted. Not to mention being forever indebted.

I actually found a picture earlier that sums it up nicely.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

This whole thing seems like a conspiracy to funnel tax money into the "educational" institutions.

I think a lot of it is to pacify the younger generation. They use propaganda campaigns throughout public schooling that you must be "higher educated" (not enlightened, mind you; never that) to get a job. College costs much more money than it should partly because of the licensing scheme and also because of the Fed's pumping untold billions into that sector. Most people and their families can't afford to go to college. The government puts their hand out as an olive branch. They extend you credit though you have no history. You are thankful. You feel hopeful that your aspirations can be realized with the government's help. What they don't tell you, of course, is that there aren't enough jobs for all those who are graduating. That your credit is your life and without it, you are impeded at every avenue you travel. That you don't need a professor to be educated or to become enlightened on current paradigms. Students graduate with upwards of 125,000 dollars in debt (if they go to a mainline university) and with no job available to speak of. They end up in that debt and do what they can (i.e. what they know how to do, since their "education" didn't teach them any actual skill set); work minimum wage jobs. They are forever indebted to a system with which all they received is tidbits of random "knowledge" and debt.

It will eventually be bailed out. I doubt the dollar can withstand this bubble. Probably a globalized central currency on the level of World Bank schemes with which not an uprising in America could dislodge.

 

[Dr.3D]

I think a lot of it is to pacify the younger generation. They use propaganda campaigns throughout public schooling that you must be "higher educated" (not enlightened, mind you; never that) to get a job. College costs much more money than it should partly because of the licensing scheme and also because of the Fed's pumping untold billions into that sector. Most people and their families can't afford to go to college. The government puts their hand out as an olive branch. They extend you credit though you have no history. You are thankful. You feel hopeful that your aspirations can be realized with the government's help. What they don't tell you, of course, is that there aren't enough jobs for all those who are graduating. That your credit is your life and without it, you are impeded at every avenue you travel. That you don't need a professor to be educated or to become enlightened on current paradigms. Students graduate with upwards of 125,000 dollars in debt (if they go to a mainline university) and with no job available to speak of. They end up in that debt and do what they can (i.e. what they know how to do, since their "education" didn't teach them any actual skill set); work minimum wage jobs. They are forever indebted to a system with which all they received is tidbits of random "knowledge" and debt.

It will eventually be bailed out. I doubt the dollar can withstand this bubble. Probably a globalized central currency on the level of World Bank schemes with which not an uprising in America could dislodge.

So we end up with burger flippers who have associates degrees and the "educational" institutions get richer and richer. LOL

 

[kcchiefs6465]

NOT TO JUMP the thread... Has anyone read the Immigration Bill and establishment lifetime US Senator Patrick Leahy's amendments to Rubios S.744 garbage?

The bill has Leahy's JUST-US establishment amendments... The Bill has allocates $1/2 Billion to pay for Border Patrol/DHS employees' student loan/college debtallocates $1/2 Billion to pay for Border Patrol/DHS employees' student loan/college debt payoff/reimbursement on hiring. These fucktards need to be exposed, for every single word.
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...gQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNECoqqVM-X16WcHR3SF7J6ivWEHfg

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...wQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHNBJAlKqRzy0OB0KS_w3znHQzv7g

There are already stipulations available for certain job titles. I'm not aware of all of the requirements but if you work with kids, for example, your debt is forgiven X amount every year. Most refer to governmental employment. Figure that.

There is a generation of children being enslaved. I did not mean to derail the thread specifically but do speak on the issue any chance I get. I wish someone would have told my ass when I was younger. One of the biggest scams perpetrated in human history, no doubt.