Ventura trying to take over Ron's Organization?

[Matt Collins]

Does anyone else get the impression that Ventura might be trying to take over Ron's base of supporters for a 2012 White House run?


Granted I don't agree with some of the things he said yesterday, however I would still rather have him as President rather than the two clowns that are running now.


Thoughts? Opinions?

 

[Jason726]

I hope Ron gives a comment on this. Ventura may have a broader appeal and better chance to win an independent run. God... Imagine in 2012 an election with RP and Ventura debating.

 

[dannno]

I don't think he's trying to take over the "organization" of the CFL, but he knows we would be an integral part in getting him elected.. if WE want it..

 

[MRoCkEd]

I don't think he's trying to take over the "organization" of the CFL, but he knows we would be an integral part in getting him elected.. if WE want it..

this

 

[Rangeley]

If he is, it's not going to work. Ron Paul has been fighting for over 30 years for this, and many others are actively working to change the country for the better. Ventura is spending the time he isn't promoting his book, in Mexico surfing. He relies on intimidation in interviews when he doesn't have a good answer to back up his 9-11 views, and has none of the grace Ron Paul exhibits, or B.J. Lawson exhibits (remember when he asked his opponent a question at one of his town forums, respectfully?)

Further, he refuses to work within the Republican party at all... so if he is, he's not doing a good job at it.

 

[rbu]

Ventura has a presence that Dr. Paul just doesn't have. If someone doesn't like what RP is talking about, they just ignore him. Most can't do that with Ventura. They'll continue to listen just because he has the ability to keep them interested. I love RP and thank him tremendously for starting the Revolution but if someone is going to finish it, Jesse will be that man.

 

[HaddEnuff]

Does anyone else get the impression that Ventura might be trying to take over Ron's base of supporters for a 2012 White House run?


Granted I don't agree with some of the things he said yesterday, however I would still rather have him as President rather than the two clowns that are running now.


Thoughts? Opinions?

That thought has crossed my mind.
I'm not sure "take over" is the right term but he sure is piggy-backing if nothing else.
I think Ventura is smart enought to know he has a base of support in the RP movement.
Here's my question, is the C4L an independent entity and could it therefore throw its support for a Ventura run in '12?
It's an energizing proposal as we struggle mightily through the next four years.

 

[Chiznaddy]

My Opinion...Venture would not be a good person to take the torch. I know more people know him, but, he doesn't seem to resonate the liberty message. He doesn't have half the historical knowledge or philosophical and economic understanding of Ron Paul either. Many will perceive him as just a loud unkempt reactionary.

 

[spacehabitats]

Compared to McBama?

Of course I would take Jesse any day.

He's a very dynamic speaker.
Comes off as a real down to earth shoot from the hip guy.

I would need to know more about his policies though.
I've heard that he is not against illegal immigration or for securing the borders.

That is an absolute deal breaker for me.

I believe that unregulated immigration is a key strategy for undermining the sovereignty of the United States.

It is a touchstone issue.

 

[Bruno]

My Opinion...Venture would not be a good person to take the torch. I know more people know him, but, he doesn't seem to resonate the liberty message. He doesn't have half the historical knowledge or philosophical and economic understanding of Ron Paul either. Many will perceive him as just a loud unkempt reactionary.

+1

 

[cswake]

Perhaps, but I wouldn't mind because having *one* truly anti-establishment President in office.

 

[GoSlash27]

I'm very interested in an official take on this. Ventura clearly endorsed Paul, but does Paul endorse Ventura?
They are much more similar than different in their philosophies and viewpoints.
I'm of a mind to encourage libertarian and constitutionalist candidates wherever they appear, but it's understandable if Dr. Paul refrains from endorsing anybody in '12. After all, he may choose to run again himself.

 

[GoSlash27]

Also as an aside, I'm not convinced of Ventura's sincerity about his proposed bid.
He has displayed up to this point a flirtation with the concept of running without actually doing so due to his (understandable) aversion to media intrusion into his family's life.

 

[gls]

The CFL (at least appears) to be an organization aimed at taking over the GOP, and Ventura has shown nothing but contempt for the duopoly. So he probably wouldn't want anything to do with it unless we were extraordinarily successful (and even that's doubtful).

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

That is the entire point of the CFL, to allow ron paul republicans and like minded individuals to have the platform for us to find them on....

get passed the one person effort...

I hope in 2012 there will be 20 trying to "take over" the organization and many more.

 

[dannno]

I'm very interested in an official take on this. Ventura clearly endorsed Paul, but does Paul endorse Ventura?

Enough to invite him to speak at the rally..

 

[freelance]

My Opinion...Venture would not be a good person to take the torch. I know more people know him, but, he doesn't seem to resonate the liberty message. He doesn't have half the historical knowledge or philosophical and economic understanding of Ron Paul either. Many will perceive him as just a loud unkempt reactionary.

I can't think of any ONE person who could ever replace Ron Paul. That said, I don't think Ron Paul is going anywhere anytime soon. He's going to be right where he is now for a lot of years to come. Look how long William Buckley hung around. Ron Paul may become the emeritus revolutionary, but he's not going to abandon this.

 

[IPSecure]

2012 Ticket: Jesse / Dr. Paul !

 

[mCsenget]

I hope Ron gives a comment on this. Ventura may have a broader appeal and better chance to win an independent run. God... Imagine in 2012 an election with RP and Ventura debating.

A tag team duo....



I don't think we should look at it as Ventura "stealing Ron's base."

This is a Campaign for Liberty, not the campaign for Ron Paul any longer.

If Ventura is one of our candidates in the future, that would be great for us all.

 

[Perry]

Does anyone else get the impression that Ventura might be trying to take over Ron's base of supporters for a 2012 White House run?


Granted I don't agree with some of the things he said yesterday, however I would still rather have him as President rather than the two clowns that are running now.


Thoughts? Opinions?

The trouble with Ventura is that he's so arrogant. Yes he's always attempting to steal everyone's steam. I thought it was blatantly obvious what he was doing and has been doing for some time.
When it comes to Ventura it's always about me me me.
If they ask about Ron it's about me me me.
What do you expect from a wwf superstar?
I support him primarily because in office he makes increasingly wise political decisions and learns from his mistakes. Also he is fearless. His character however leaves something to be desired.