VA Senate primary: Bob Marshall vs Jamie Radtke - who's the liberty candidate?

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They both claim to be. Bob Marshall seems to be by the way his website is worded versus Radtke's, but it's very unclear. Does anyone know enough about these two to compare/contrast the two?
 
Hmmm. Jamie Radtke sounds a bit like a Teo-con...

http://radtkeforsenate.com/issues/national-security-defense/

National Security & Defense

Providing safety and security to the people of the United States is one of the fundamental responsibilities of the national government and is a paramount priority. A strong military is essential to our security. Americans should enjoy the protection provided by their government from attacks from hostile nations and terrorists alike.

Our challenge as a nation is to respond responsibly and quickly (within the parameters of the Constitution) to changing realities and threats to our national security. Terrorism, whether state-sponsored or not, poses our gravest national security threat today. Rogue nations, including North Korea and Iran, are also a threat. As your United States Senator I will:

Ensure that proven and imminent threats to our national security be dealt with swiftly and decisively and with authorization of Congress, not the United Nations.
Commit that when putting our troops in harms way that it be done with a clear set of objectives, solely for the purpose of our national security, and with Congressional authorization.
Pursue a missile defense system that was first proposed by President Reagan.
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It was never Radke. She has zero support and won't get many votes at all. Her top success is that she ran a local Tea Party group, which she used to prop herself up and promote her own campaign, and now many people from that very group disavow her.

Let's examine Bob Marshall's record and look at the facts:

He was the sole reason the anti-NDAA bill, anti-REAL ID bill, and Health Care Freedom Act passed. He authored, sponsored and fought hard to push through this legislation.

He is very open and transparent, look at the bills he's introduced to double the fine for violating the Freedom of Information Act and for expanding it to every facet of government. He's introduced a bill to let citizens file complaints against unethical legislators. He's all about open government and freedom of information. He even introduced a resolution condemning the Republican leadership for being non-transparent.

I might add, he also introduced a bill for alternative currency if the Fed colapses, oh, and in 1995 he introduced ANTI-FEDERAL RESERVE legislation calling on the fed government to stop monetizing its debt (this was before anti-Fed stances were popular).

He's also introduced bills to expand the rights of felons wrongfully convicted by the government and to allow judges to tell jurors that an innocent man had been executed in Virginia before.

Above all that, he voted for RP in 2008 and 2012.

I don't see the comparison here.
 
skiingff said:
It was never Radke. She has zero support and won't get many votes at all. Her top success is that she ran a local Tea Party group, which she used to prop herself up and promote her own campaign, and now many people from that very group disavow her.

Let's examine Bob Marshall's record and look at the facts:

He was the sole reason the anti-NDAA bill, anti-REAL ID bill, and Health Care Freedom Act passed. He authored, sponsored and fought hard to push through this legislation.

He is very open and transparent, look at the bills he's introduced to double the fine for violating the Freedom of Information Act and for expanding it to every facet of government. He's introduced a bill to let citizens file complaints against unethical legislators. He's all about open government and freedom of information. He even introduced a resolution condemning the Republican leadership for being non-transparent.

I might add, he also introduced a bill for alternative currency if the Fed colapses, oh, and in 1995 he introduced ANTI-FEDERAL RESERVE legislation calling on the fed government to stop monetizing its debt (this was before anti-Fed stances were popular).

He's also introduced bills to expand the rights of felons wrongfully convicted by the government and to allow judges to tell jurors that an innocent man had been executed in Virginia before.

Above all that, he voted for RP in 2008 and 2012.

I don't see the comparison here.
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Yeah, it seems that Bob Marshall is more a Ron Paul kind of guy.

Any idea on his odds of winning the Primary and the General?
 
I have mixed feelings about him. He's a HARDLINE Paleocon, even more so than Patrick J. Buchanan.

Here's video of him talking about extending DADT to the national guard: http: //voices.washingtonpost. com/virginiapolitics/2011/01/marshall_says_mcdonnell_is_wro.html

But he does have some good qualities: anti-NDAA bill, anti-REAL ID bill, and Health Care Freedom Act, etc.

I first heard about him last year when he went on RT for a story on competing currencies:


I honestly don't know. I really liked Radtke.
 
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Isn't George Allen the nominee for senate? (Virginia primary has passed) I can't find polls showing how Bob Marshall is doing.
 
Vanilluxe said:
Isn't George Allen the nominee for senate? (Virginia primary has passed) I can't find polls showing how Bob Marshall is doing.
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No!!! George "Macaca" Allen is facing Bob Marshall, Jaime Radtke and one other no-name candidate in the Virginia U.S. Senate Republican primary on June 12, 2012. Bob Marshall is the only viable "non-Allen" candidate. Marshall lost the 2008 Senate primary by less than 1% of the vote.

Marshall is a long-time state representative and Ron Paul supporter and was talking about the Fed destroying our country way back in 1995. His campaign website clearly states that he would utilize the "just war theory" and is against all undeclared wars. All his legislation speaks for itself. He even introduced legislation to condemn the federal government for violating the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

Yes, Marshall is a social conservative as well, call him paleocon if you wish. He describes himself as an "Independent Conservative Republican." He is a peace candidate and the most pro-civil liberties and anti-Fed legislator in Virginia. I wouldn't let his social views define him, because what he's really succeeded at is pro-civil liberties legislation. If anything, being labeled "the most conservative candidate" by the media will help pull "mainstream" Republican voters to his side. That's why he almost won the nomination last time around.

The man himself personally told me he voted for Ron Paul and an article in the Washington Post claims he told a reporter that as well. Regardless, I would match his written RECORD of being pro-liberty against anyone in the country.

Jaime Ratdke is a neo-con, just look at her campaign website where she says that Iran is a major threat we need to deal with.
 
The latest polls show a dead heat between the two governors, Allen and Kaine.

While I strongly support us backing the liberty candidate, Marshall, I am sure Kaine would beat him.
 
Can this topic be revived? VA Senate Primary 6-12

Any liberty lovers in VA care to comment?? Primary coming up on June 12. I've been volunteering for Bob Marshall for the last month or so because of his HB10 (repeal Obamacare) and HB1160 (nullify NDAA) and the fact that for over 20 years in the VA House of Delegates, he has never voted for a tax increase or for deficit spending. Any RP supporters out there going for Radtke?
 
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I go back and forth between Radke and Marshall depending upon the day. I like Marshall until I remember him going on and on about his bigotry - like 15 minutes worth of crap bragging about how he was so successful in the anti-civil union amendment (read: some individuals have less rights than others because I don't like what they do with their freedom - the whole "separate but equal " BS that went out of rational thought decades ago). Marshall also recently spearheaded a movement to not allow a judge to be seated because he was homosexual - Democrats are going to destroy him on that in the general.
But then I think of Radke and her foolish foreign policy ideas.

Of the two, I think Marshall is overall less dangerous than Radke but this is a choice of two evils. Radke might be able to win the general and I think Marshall will lose it.
I know it is sad to say but I really am not positive how I'm voting on the 12th :( but it'll probably be Marshall.

I'll throw up afterward.
 
I'm a new to the forum, so I'm not allowed to post a link, but for a video you can go to YouTube and type in "Delegate Bob Marshall Talks about the Indefinite Detention Possibilities in the NDAA." And here is an email that someone forwarded to me:

Dear Fellow Patriot,

When Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law, a shadow was cast over the United States Constitution. A chill shuddered through the body of American law that is supposed to protect U.S. citizens against a dark world where arrests can occur without formal charges, where detentions can be open-ended and habeas corpus is but a quaint legal relic of the past.

Who was the first defender of liberty to come to the fore to fight against such un-American legislation as NDAA? It was Delegate Robert G. Marshall of the 13th District of the Virginia House of Delegates, a legislative body rich with a history of defending liberty! Marshall himself is a lawmaker in the grandest tradition of some his immortal predecessors in that body.

Bob Marshall’s leadership capabilities were never in better form than when he wrote Virginia’s new Anti-Detention law, moved it patiently and skillfully toward bipartisan support in both houses of the General Assembly and then on to the Governor’s desk where it was signed into law! This legislative initiative by Bob Marshall leads the way among all the states in refusing to cooperate with the unconstitutional detention provision of the NDAA.

Now, other states are following Virginia’s lead….following Bob Marshall’s lead.

Here’s Bob to tell you more of the story in his own words. [This links to the YouTube video.]

On June 12th please vote for Bob Marshall. Let’s put him on guard in Washington in defense of our most cherished liberties!

Yours for Liberty,

Bob Allen
Campaign Manager
Bob Marshall for U.S. Senate
 
Diana4RonPaul said:
I'm a new to the forum, so I'm not allowed to post a link, but for a video you can go to YouTube and type in "Delegate Bob Marshall Talks about the Indefinite Detention Possibilities in the NDAA." And here is an email that someone forwarded to me:

Dear Fellow Patriot,

When Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law, a shadow was cast over the United States Constitution. A chill shuddered through the body of American law that is supposed to protect U.S. citizens against a dark world where arrests can occur without formal charges, where detentions can be open-ended and habeas corpus is but a quaint legal relic of the past.

Who was the first defender of liberty to come to the fore to fight against such un-American legislation as NDAA? It was Delegate Robert G. Marshall of the 13th District of the Virginia House of Delegates, a legislative body rich with a history of defending liberty! Marshall himself is a lawmaker in the grandest tradition of some his immortal predecessors in that body.

Bob Marshall’s leadership capabilities were never in better form than when he wrote Virginia’s new Anti-Detention law, moved it patiently and skillfully toward bipartisan support in both houses of the General Assembly and then on to the Governor’s desk where it was signed into law! This legislative initiative by Bob Marshall leads the way among all the states in refusing to cooperate with the unconstitutional detention provision of the NDAA.

Now, other states are following Virginia’s lead….following Bob Marshall’s lead.

Here’s Bob to tell you more of the story in his own words. [This links to the YouTube video.]

On June 12th please vote for Bob Marshall. Let’s put him on guard in Washington in defense of our most cherished liberties!

Yours for Liberty,

Bob Allen
Campaign Manager
Bob Marshall for U.S. Senate
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I'm sure Bob is good, but at this stage its too late for him to catch up to George Allen, we must invest our money on people who has the potential to catch fire like John Dennis/who needs dire help like Justin Amash.
 
I have personally met and spoken to all the candidates, and I support Bob Marshall.

Radtke is better than the other two choices, but Marshall has walked the walk and for that he has earned our support.
 
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