USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour titles

[QuickZ06]

Small balls is pretty powerful propaganda. I'll stick to protein.

They go back to normal after a cycle, besides you don't need them if you are taking steroids correctly and working out as you will not have the energy or time for four play and sex.

 

[tttppp]

Again steroids are different than testosterone boosters. And you do not remember the product that gave you "horrible" side effects?



Like I said, most do not even need to think about it unless they are 100% educated on steroids and have the time. You can get fantastic results just by working out harder and eating clean.

It was six years ago, so obviously I don't remember the name. That's not to say all steroid products are the same...but I'm not going to experiment with any other products to find out.

 

[BamaAla]

Well first, there is a huge difference in testosterone boosters and steroids.

So all you were taking was testosterone? Which one was it? I find this really hard to believe. Everything you heard that was "bad" about steroids was put in your head by the government, the same government that tells you dried plant material will make you rape white women or die from using it I dislike when people pick and choose what "drugs" they deem bad when all they heard was propaganda from the get go.

I am sure you won't as you have apparently made up your mind on steroids but go on the bodybuilding forums and tell them steroids are very bad. They will LOL at you and call you a troll but some might educate on the truths. 99% of people don't even need to take steroids or testosterone as they have not even maxed their body out naturally with the normal GNC/Vitamin Shoppe supplements.

LOL. GTFO, are you serious with this :"go on the bodybuilding forums and tell them steroids are very bad. They will LOL at you and call you a troll but some might educate on the truths?" Why don't you go to...oh say...the nearest medical school and tell them how fantastic steroids are for you; tell them you got your broscience learning over at the bb forums and they are wrong.

 

[QuickZ06]

LOL. GTFO, are you serious with this :"go on the bodybuilding forums and tell them steroids are very bad. They will LOL at you and call you a troll but some might educate on the truths?" Why don't you go to...oh say...the nearest medical school and tell them how fantastic steroids are for you; tell them you got your broscience learning over at the bb forums and they are wrong.

Did I ever say they were fantastic, don't think so but they do have a great purpose. I did however say that the stuff you have heard is mostly a lie i.e roid rage (which effects a small amount of people), women boobs ect. ect.

And like I said you can continue to believe those government funded websites and research.

Ill take multiple professional body builders opinions and independent research over government funded ones.

I guess you are against weed and pretty much anything else the government deems BAD to huh as I am sure I can go to the nearest medical center and find plenty of paid shells to tell me how bad weed is.

 

[QuickZ06]

And please dont tell me to GTFO. I thought this was a liberty minded forum where we can share our ideas and opinions. Or are your views the only ones that are acceptable?

 

[QuickZ06]

It was six years ago, so obviously I don't remember the name. That's not to say all steroid products are the same...but I'm not going to experiment with any other products to find out.

That is why you do tons and tons of research and get many opinions before you start shoving w/e into your body. I guarantee whatever you were taking was garbage that you should have never of taken in the first place.

 

[QuickZ06]

Every drug has a risk but it's stupid to pinpoint steroids as the sole reason for a person's death. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, and tons of other bodybuilders are still alive today after many, many, many cycles of steroids. Are they completely healthy? No. But it's not like you're going to drop dead after doing several cycles. It is easy to blame your problems on one thing but usually the case is there are a lot of other contributing factors when someone "dies from steroids". Do you honestly think the government is magically watching out for us and our greater good in the body building/sports world as far as steroids go but never mind how retarded they are at messing everything else up. Are some of you not picking up on this?

 

[QuickZ06]

Vitamin C offers more side effects than steroids. Guess we should just ban that as well.

 

[BamaAla]

Vitamin C offers more side effects than steroids. Guess we should just ban that as well.

If you want to be taken serious, you need to stop making comments like this. It's all well and good if you want to take steroids, shut down your testes, lose your hair, grow bitch tits, and relive the acne nightmare of the teenage years, but this little crusade to convince us that they are basically multi-vitamins isn't going to get very far.

 

[JSaindon]

I can't believe we want to pretend that sports are moral high grounds. LMAO. Lots of pro athletes dope and try to stay one step ahead of the tests. Armstrong was almost done with this whole case via arbitration and he just drops it all? Makes you question his motives also as well as the USADA. If he beat the tests, so be it, congrats to him, end of story. Why is there not a statute of limitations on these types of cases? Even common police laws have less statute of limitations than the 10+ years the USADA has been trying to pin somehting on Armstrong. The whole case is a joke and will hurt the biking world, as if it was even popular to begin with.

The only positive that might come from this are the goofy nerds that dress up in the tight bicycle racing gear and ride down busy two lane streets during heavy traffic hours. I guess they are too good to ride bike trail right along the road. Idiots.

 

[tttppp]

That is why you do tons and tons of research and get many opinions before you start shoving w/e into your body. I guarantee whatever you were taking was garbage that you should have never of taken in the first place.

Duh, I know that now. But that doesn't change the fact they are horrible for you. It wasn't that they were horrible that was the problem, its that they are so completely horrible that no person should ever use them. The side effects were way greater than the benfits.

 

[QuickZ06]

Duh, I know that now. But that doesn't change the fact they are horrible for you. It wasn't that they were horrible that was the problem, its that they are so completely horrible that no person should ever use them. The side effects were way greater than the benfits.

Vitamin C has more side effects than steroids. Should we ban vitamin C? Vaginal discharge is one of these side effects from a vitamin, pretty gross and horrible.

If you want to be taken serious, you need to stop making comments like this. It's all well and good if you want to take steroids, shut down your testes, lose your hair, grow bitch tits, and relive the acne nightmare of the teenage years, but this little crusade to convince us that they are basically multi-vitamins isn't going to get very far.

Everything you just said is government rhetoric. I never said they were vitamins. You sure do like putting words in my mouth, you have a personal agenda against me?

Look how many people "died" from steroids last year. Bet you its under 10 and even then I still call BS that is was all just steroids.

The big pharma companies are pushing their testosterone boosters for a reason and had steroids banned for a reason. Are seeing the similarities here, pretty much the same as marijuana.

The propaganda on steroids is so good that even liberty minded folks are buying into it. But here is the "kicker" don't believe a dang thing I told you, go research the heck out of it and come up with your own opinion and stay away from anything government funded please.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I want to see all the athletes "juiced" I would enjoy watching pros even former pros like, Spud Webb slam-dunkin from half court, and 700ft homeruns, 100mph cyclists, 150mph pitches/slapshots.

Let's make sporting events memorable and entertaining

 

[tttppp]

Vitamin C has more side effects than steroids. Should we ban vitamin C? Vaginal discharge is one of these side effects from a vitamin, pretty gross and horrible.



Everything you just said is government rhetoric. I never said they were vitamins. You sure do like putting words in my mouth, you have a personal agenda against me?

Look how many people "died" from steroids last year. Bet you its under 10 and even then I still call BS that is was all just steroids.

The big pharma companies are pushing their testosterone boosters for a reason and had steroids banned for a reason. Are seeing the similarities here, pretty much the same as marijuana.

The propaganda on steroids is so good that even liberty minded folks are buying into it. But here is the "kicker" don't believe a dang thing I told you, go research the heck out of it and come up with your own opinion and stay away from anything government funded please.

You should read the thread more carefully. I suggested the government should legalize steroids to make it more profitable for companies to make safe steroids.

Plus I never advised anyone to take vitamins. That said, I can't imagine vitamins being worse than steroids.

 

[idiom]

So only athletes with access to steroids should win and athletes who don't use them, or don't use them well enough are simply not good athletes?

Athletics is no longer about your drive, commitment, and talent, but instead about your access to the latest million dollar custom super drugs?

If you want to compete with big money science then get into a sport based on machines, like Formula 1 motor-sport or the Americas Cup.

 

[QuickZ06]

So only athletes with access to steroids should win and athletes who don't use them, or don't use them well enough are simply not good athletes?

Athletics is no longer about your drive, commitment, and talent, but instead about your access to the latest million dollar custom super drugs?

If you want to compete with big money science then get into a sport based on machines, like Formula 1 motor-sport or the Americas Cup.

There is a new stem cell treatment that is undetectable.

 

[QuickZ06]

You should read the thread more carefully. I suggested the government should legalize steroids to make it more profitable for companies to make safe steroids.

Plus I never advised anyone to take vitamins. That said, I can't imagine vitamins being worse than steroids.

Like I said there is a reason they are illegal. And stop saying that current anabolic steroids as that is the steroid everyone hates are not "safe" and are the most "horrible" thing in the world for you. And yes vitamin C has more side effects, research it.

 

[tttppp]

Like I said there is a reason they are illegal. And stop saying that current anabolic steroids as that is the steroid everyone hates are not "safe" and are the most "horrible" thing in the world for you. And yes vitamin C has more side effects, research it.

Steroids are the worst thing I have taken, and that includes all the horrible medications I tried. Vitamin C would not have done what the steroids did to me.

Also, I'm not the one saying they should be illegal. Stop acting like I'm campaigning for them to be illegal.

 

[QuickZ06]

Steroids are the worst thing I have taken, and that includes all the horrible medications I tried. Vitamin C would not have done what the steroids did to me.

Also, I'm not the one saying they should be illegal. Stop acting like I'm campaigning for them to be illegal.

I am not talking about illegal or legal, thats not the point I am trying to make. The point I am making is you are spreading false information about a substance you can even remember the name of that effected you SO badly, even if it was 6 years ago. When you can come up with the name of that testosterone booster I will possibly take what you said as remotely credible.

So you are basing all of your judgement off of just yourself. And which did you take steroids, anabolic steroids or a testosterone booster as I am now confused as all are very different. Like I said, every drug has a risk but to say it is the end of your life if you use regularly is just insane. Many people I know have been juicing there whole adult lives and have zero medical compilations and are pretty healthy people in and out. Anyone can abuse any drug. That is why you must know ins and out of the drug 100% before even deciding to take it and use it accordingly.

 

[tttppp]

I am not talking about illegal or legal, thats not the point I am trying to make. The point I am making is you are spreading false information about a substance you can even remember the name of that effected you SO badly, even if it was 6 years ago. When you can come up with the name of that testosterone booster I will possibly take what you said as remotely credible.

So you are basing all of your judgement off of just yourself. And which did you take steroids, anabolic steroids or a testosterone booster as I am now confused as all are very different. Like I said, every drug has a risk but to say it is the end of your life if you use regularly is just insane. Many people I know have been juicing there whole adult lives and have zero medical compilations and are pretty healthy people in and out. Anyone can abuse any drug. That is why you must know ins and out of the drug 100% before even deciding to take it and use it accordingly.

I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing. I have no idea what your point is. At first you criticize me for getting my information from the government. Now you are saying my opinion doesn't count because its based on personal experience, yet your information based on your friends experiences somehow count more than my experience.

Sure most people don't have as bad of an experience as me, but there are a hell of a lot of athletes who magically age 20 years overnight, gain tons of weight they can't get rid of, or have their entire bodies break down with constant injuries.