US goes to war with Iran

[Anti Federalist]

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[nikcers]

We can live without electricity. You can't.

LOL air conditioners are definitely necessary. People routinely collapse and die from the heat where I live.

 

[nikcers]

Without bombarding it with neutrons there is no fission taking place.

The highly enriched uranium will naturally decay into normal uranium and its buried under dirt.

Normal uranium is already highly present in the region. Its naturally occurring in the environment there in higher than normal amounts and is relatively harmless.

A normal explosion would just not trigger nuclear fission and therefore wouldn't create radioactive elements.

 

[nikcers]

The president just gave a speech that sounded like he won the superbowl.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Without bombarding it with neutrons there is no fission taking place.

The highly enriched uranium will naturally decay into normal uranium and its buried under dirt.

Normal uranium is already highly present in the region. Its naturally occurring in the environment there in higher than normal amounts and is relatively harmless.

A normal explosion would just not trigger nuclear fission and therefore wouldn't create radioactive elements.

A conventional explosive blowing up radioactive material and spreading it without a fission reaction is the very definition of a "dirty bomb".

That was what I was driving at.

Yes, granted there is not radioactive debris blasted into the stratosphere, perhaps fallout was the improper term.

But there has to be some level of contamination that could be detected and quantified.

Unless the "intelligence" was all bullshit and we just vaporized some empty warehouses.

 

[nikcers]

A conventional explosive blowing up radioactive material and spreading it without a fission reaction is the very definition of a "dirty bomb".

That was what I was driving at.

Yes, granted there is not radioactive debris blasted into the stratosphere, perhaps fallout was the improper term.

But there has to be some level of contamination that could be detected and quantified.

Unless the "intelligence" was all bullshit and we just vaporized some empty warehouses.

Uranium is only mildly radioactive.

Its present in all of the food the people eat in that region.

Iran is one of the most radioactive places on earth naturally.

 

[ClaytonB]

The president just gave a speech that sounded like he won the superbowl.

 

[69360]

A conventional explosive blowing up radioactive material and spreading it without a fission reaction is the very definition of a "dirty bomb".

That was what I was driving at.

Yes, granted there is not radioactive debris blasted into the stratosphere, perhaps fallout was the improper term.

But there has to be some level of contamination that could be detected and quantified.

Unless the "intelligence" was all bullshit and we just vaporized some empty warehouses.

The Iranians are already claiming they removed the radioactive material before the bombing.

 

[69360]

Fucking Trump is an idiot for listening to the Israelis. Muslims and Jews are going to continue to kill each other no matter how much you bomb. So much for America first. What an asshole he is.

 

[nikcers]

A dirty bomb requires fission. It just doesnt have enough material to make a chain reaction and nuclear explosion. You use a normal explosion to disperse the particles created by fission and those particles are highly radioactive.

In this scenario the materials were just dispersed and mixed in with all of the debris and dirt in the facility after it was demolished. Which means its now unenriched and dismantled.

 

[nikcers]

The Iranians are already claiming they removed the radioactive material before the bombing.

The Iranian government also said their missle attacks on our military base resulted in hundreds of deaths.

They aren't going to admit that their nuclear program has bought the farm.

 

[nikcers]

There is a populated region in Iran thats naturally as radioactive as mars.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Uranium is only mildly radioactive.

Its present in all of the food the people eat in that region.

Iran is one of the most radioactive places on earth naturally.

Yes, but this was allegedly enriched, one step below bomb material.

There was also supposed to be a large amount of it in one place.

GBU-57s were supposedly used in this attack, very powerful conventional weapons with 5000 pound warheads.

Are you telling me that a bomb (or two or three) of this size, hitting a stockpile of enriched, almost weapons grade, uranium would not leave a significant amount of radioactive debris behind?

 

[Anti Federalist]

A dirty bomb requires fission. It just doesnt have enough material to make a chain reaction and nuclear explosion. You use a normal explosion to disperse the particles created by fission and those particles are highly radioactive.

In this scenario the materials were just dispersed and mixed in with all of the debris and dirt in the facility after it was demolished. Which means its now unenriched and dismantled.

Not according to wiki.

Dirty bomb - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[nikcers]

Yes, but this was allegedly enriched, one step below bomb material.

There was also supposed to be a large amount of it in one place.

GBU-57s were supposedly used in this attack, very powerful conventional weapons with 5000 pound warheads.

Are you telling me that a bomb (or two or three) of this size, hitting a stockpile of enriched, almost weapons grade, uranium would not leave a significant amount of radioactive debris behind?

If you look at the video I posted Iran already has a city that is full of Uranium and there are no known health problems and its probably even good for the immune system. Its the most radioactive place on earth with enriched Uranium built into everything there.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[nikcers]

Yes, but this was allegedly enriched, one step below bomb material.

There was also supposed to be a large amount of it in one place.

GBU-57s were supposedly used in this attack, very powerful conventional weapons with 5000 pound warheads.

Are you telling me that a bomb (or two or three) of this size, hitting a stockpile of enriched, almost weapons grade, uranium would not leave a significant amount of radioactive debris behind?

Almost weapons grade is the key word here. It takes 90% enriched uranium to do a bomb.

We have completely exploded a bomb with 90% enriched weapons grade uranium over a US city using conventional explosives and there was no nuclear explosions.

It takes a very specific action of events to trigger the nuclear explosion.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Almost weapons grade is the key word here. It takes 90% enriched uranium to do a bomb.

We have completely exploded a bomb with 90% enriched weapons grade uranium over a US city using conventional explosives and there was no nuclear explosions.

It takes a very specific action of events to trigger the nuclear explosion.

Again, I am not arguing that point.

I am simply saying that, until I see physics that say otherwise, a massive conventional munition hitting a large stockpile of "almost" weapons grade enriched uranium (which does not occur in nature) would have to blow radioactive debris all over the impact site and maybe miles more downrange.

 

[nikcers]

Again, I am not arguing that point.

I am simply saying that, until I see physics that say otherwise, a massive conventional munition hitting a large stockpile of "almost" weapons grade enriched uranium (which does not occur in nature) would have to blow radioactive debris all over the impact site and maybe miles more downrange.

Heat just doesn't cause fission.

You boil uranium with heat in order to enrich it.

It takes a specific nuclear detonation like neutrons to do fission and then when the atoms split it creates the particles that are unstable and thats why they are highly radioactive.