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[No1butPaul]

Huh? A.E. folded the tent May 21st -- that is your plan?

 

[PatriotOne]

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Intel & Sp Ops Re-Arranging Off Duty Schedules For Special Meet & Greet With Romney Trouble Makers At Future Conventions

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[PatriotOne]

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Phone Calls To Patriot Press From Intel & Special Forces With Message To Romney_If You Scheme To Impede Democracy In Tampa We Will Be There

 

[PatriotOne]

I missed your plan to get Ron Paul the nomination, what is it again?

Add - this is still the "RON PAUL" Forum, right? Just want to make sure I'm in the right place because there are lots of other "LIBERTY" forums, but I just want to make sure I'm on the "RON PAUL" forum specifically.

To let the official campaign advise the delegates. Not to encourage our delegates to give their names and addresses and phone numbers to every fruitcake who professes to be an undercover "white hat" intel operative/lawyer working with other undercover intel operatives who claim to be fighting against the New World Order, aka, controlled opposition, to those who know what they really are about.

 

[PatriotOne]

The price for staying out of the way while we go in and destroy Iraq and occupy Afghanistan?

Take NOTHING this guy says seriously. He's disinformation along the same lines of people like Sorcha Faal except not as well known. There's a whole cottage industry of these people pretending to be the "White Hats" in the intel biz fighting against the "Black Hats" to save the world! It's nothing but a bunch of disinformation from controlled opposition.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Yeah? Well good luck with that if there's anything left of this country. In the meantime, I hope the rest of us can work to get Ron Paul elected.

And, by the time the GOP is finally taken over by liberty candidates (loooong way to go) is there going to be another Ron Paul at the national level for whom to vote/elect? Are all your eggs in Rand Paul's basket in that respsect?

Of course, the goal still is to get Ron elected. But barring that, the goal is to stay involved for the long haul because whether the market crashes or not, people like us need to be in control of a major party to help bring the country back to life for ourselves and posterity. For all the Rand haters, stay involved in the party, maybe get elected to something, go up the ranks and then you can take on Rand as a liberty candidate since some think he's not. Of course, by then you'll realize that Rand's record nearly matches Ron's and then think back to yesteryear's hysteria and eat crow. Same will happen if Rand goes off the deep end for me.

 

[sailingaway]

I really like your avatar, I remember when Ron did that...It impressed on my mind That's when I was just learning about him.

Yeah, I've had complete avatar-envy of LE since I came here....

 

[No1butPaul]

To let the official campaign advise the delegates. Not to encourage our delegates to give their names and addresses and phone numbers to every fruitcake who professes to be an undercover "white hat" intel operative/lawyer working with other undercover intel operatives who claim to be fighting against the New World Order, aka, controlled opposition, to those who know what they really are about.

The official campaign is not going to get Ron Paul the nomination, so I say, respectfully, that plan is a big fail.

 

[PatriotOne]

The official campaign is not going to get Ron Paul the nomination, so I say, respectfully, that plan is a big fail.

And neither is the fruitcake "undercover intel agent/lawyer Richard" and his 500+ Lawyers for Ron Paul .

 

[No1butPaul]

And neither is the fruitcake "undercover intel agent/lawyer Richard" and his 500+ Lawyers for Ron Paul .

The great thing is, we shall soon see.

Add - I've commented to death on this thread (like some others) and I just want to say, with respect to all the crazy fruitcake comments, Ron Paul supporters should know more than anyone else what it's like to be marginalized as crazy, fringe, out there, etc. Of course, it doesn't bother some of us and I noticed Richard doesn't really seem to be bothered by it either. Until somebody comes up with a better plan, besides name-calling or the "official campaign" nonsense, I'll be here supporting the legal course instead of trying to hope to win years down the road via the GOP's criminal playground.

 

[PatriotOne]

The great thing is, we shall soon see.

I'll try to keep my "I told you so's" to a minimum when this guy accomplishes nothing of substance or worse yet, ends up getting the court to uphold State Convention mandates and bind them to Romney via the courts. All while providing the opposition with the names of any stealth Nat'l delegates who fell for the scam.

 

[Barrex]

You sir are a festizio.

Sure I would like Jesus to be the one representing this case in court but....

USA_Free_Press said (paraphrasing): Interesting thing about all those people who are spitting and insulting this effort is that they all got one thing in common: they got no plan to get Ron elected.

Everything that he said about lawsuit was right so far and everything he did regarding this lawsuit was right thing to do. Including that official campaign people are negotiating with GOP and not looking for Rons best interests.

With all his/their flaws that he/they have (like me and you) he/they is/are doing all this pro bono... and frankly you are out of line. He was insulted, spit on, his life was threaten, now you call him a fruitcake.... well YOU DO IT THEN.


Mistakes will be made; battles will be lost..... Should people just give up?

 

[WhistlinDave]

Yeah, I've had complete avatar-envy of LE since I came here....

I want to find video of whatever debate that was from... Want to see what McCain was saying that caused the RP head shaking. LOL

 

[No1butPaul]

I'll try to keep my "I told you so's" to a minimum when this guy accomplishes nothing of substance or worse yet, ends up getting the court to uphold State Convention mandates and bind them to Romney via the courts. All while providing the opposition with the names of any stealth Nat'l delegates who fell for the scam.

Please try and get this ... there is NO MATHEMATICAL CHANCE, ZEROOOO, NADA, for Ron Paul to get the nomination with unbound and bound (stealth included) delegates combined. The numbers are not there, so there is no motive for what you are suggesting. The only way for this to work is to get Romney stripped of his delegates and have others throw their hats in the ring to prevent him from getting the magic number.

Having said this, given the court's ruling today on Obamacare, things just may have gotten tougher for this strategy.

 

[PatriotOne]

You sir are a festizio.

Sure I would like Jesus to be the one representing this case in court but....

USA_Free_Press said (paraphrasing): Interesting thing about all those people who are spitting and insulting this effort is that they all got one thing in common: they got no plan to get Ron elected.

Everything that he said about lawsuit was right so far and everything he did regarding this lawsuit was right thing to do.

With all his/their flaws that he/they have (like me and you) he/they is/are doing all this pro bono... and frankly you are out of line. He was insulted, spit on, his life was threaten, now you call him a fruitcake.... well YOU DO IT THEN.

One thing you should know about disinformation ops is that "they lie" so quoting him is probably not going to sway me.

 

[Barrex]

One thing you should know about disinformation ops is that "they lie" so quoting him is probably not going to sway me.

I wasnt trying to "sway" you I was trying to stop you insulting people. Bad PatriotOne. Bad!

 

[robertwerden]

Here is the thing about this ruling. If the judge says the States rights are protected, then nothing changes. If the Judge rules that the Federal law is supreme, then everything changes.
I am 100% for this case to proceed. In my opinion, unless Ron Paul comes on and says stop the suit we have a plan and we know we can win with it, then we have nothing to lose.
I don't see Ron Paul running ever again, and I don't see Rand Paul's potential run having anything to do with this. And in 4 -8 years no one will remember anyway.

This is a chance to change the perception of Primary elections and nominating conventions for 100 years to come. If these lawyers get a ruling that the federal law stands then for the future elections, delegates wont be counted and nominees wont be presumed. It will all come down to a brokered convention on both sides and the delegates will regain the power, not to mention the amount of people who get involved will be huge.

 

[WhistlinDave]

I still can't understand why anyone can think that someone who is working against Ron Paul would haul all this testimony and evidence into court to expose all the rampant election fraud. There is absolutely no constructive thing that can come from that for Romney. Gaining information on stealth delegates is not worth exposing all the fraud. It's like trading a Lamborghini in order to get a tricycle.

 

[PatriotOne]

Please try and get this ... there is NO MATHEMATICAL CHANCE, ZEROOOO, NADA, for Ron Paul to get the nomination with unbound and bound (stealth included) delegates combined.

Which is why Ron conceded the race in the first place.

The only way for this to work is to get Romney stripped of his delegates and have others throw their hats in the ring to prevent him from getting the magic number.

All delegates, including Romney's, are already unbound in Tampa. There's no delegates to have to "strip" from Romney . They can throw their hat in the ring for Paul at the convention already.

 

[No1butPaul]

Here is the thing about this ruling. If the judge says the States rights are protected, then nothing changes. If the Judge rules that the Federal law is supreme, then everything changes.
I am 100% for this case to proceed. In my opinion, unless Ron Paul comes on and says stop the suit we have a plan and we know we can win with it, then we have nothing to lose.
I don't see Ron Paul running ever again, and I don't see Rand Paul's potential run having anything to do with this. And in 4 -8 years no one will remember anyway.

This is a chance to change the perception of Primary elections and nominating conventions for 100 years to come. If these lawyers get a ruling that the federal law stands then for the future elections, delegates wont be counted and nominees wont be presumed. It will all come down to a brokered convention on both sides and the delegates will regain the power, not to mention the amount of people who get involved will be huge.

And, don't forget there is precedent for this. Richard gave the name of the case which he sited as precedent ... by any chance do you remember what that is?