UFOs 'tampered with nukes'

[Cinderella]

william cooper talked alot about this...i suggest people read up on bill cooper...

 

[pcosmar]

Some may still want to make jokes. We have seen some in the threads. It may be just out of habit or as a defense mechanism. Regardless, this has just gotten serious.
Serious in the fact that credible folks are now talking, serious in the fact that a world body has appointed a representative.
There are many opinions about what or who they may be, or of what they are.

I am more concerned with How it will be used. And that is serious.

"never let a good crisis go to waste"

 

[Bruno]

Some may still want to make jokes. We have seen some in the threads. It may be just out of habit or as a defense mechanism. Regardless, this has just gotten serious.
Serious in the fact that credible folks are now talking, serious in the fact that a world body has appointed a representative.
There are many opinions about what or who they may be, or of what they are.

I am more concerned with How it will be used. And that is serious.

"never let a good crisis go to waste"

great post

 

[BULBASAUR!]

I'm calling a false flag alien invasion/meeting/whatever. I wouldn't put it past "them".

 

[Cinderella]

"In 1953 astronomers discovered large objects in space which were tracked moving toward the Earth. It was first believed that they were asteroids. Later evidence proved that the objects could only be spaceships (perhaps hollowed-out asteroids from the astroid field between Mars and Jupiter? - Branton). Project SIGMA intercepted alien radio communications. When the objects reached the Earth they took up very high geosynchronous orbit around the equator. There were several huge ships, and their actual intent was unknown. Project SIGMA and a new project, PLATO, through radio communications using the computer binary language, were able to arrange a landing that resulted in face- to-face contact with alien beings from another planet. The landing took place in the desert. The movie. Project PLATO was tasked with establishing diplomatic relations with this race of space aliens. A hostage was left with us as a pledge that they would return and formalize a treaty.

"In the meantime, a race of humanoid aliens landed at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida and successfully communicated with the U.S. government. THIS GROUP WARNED US AGAINST THE RACE ORBITING THE EQUATOR AND OFFERED TO HELP US WITH OUR SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY DEMANDED THAT WE DISMANTLE AND DESTROY OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS THE MAJOR CONDITION. THEY REFUSED TO EXCHANGE TECHNOLOGY CITING THAT WE WERE SPIRITUALLY UNABLE TO HANDLE THE TECHNOLOGY WE ALREADY POSSESSED. THESE OVERTURES WERE REJECTED on the grounds that it would be foolish to disarm in the face of such an uncertain future. There was no track record to read from. IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN UNFORTUNATE DECISION.

"A third landing at Muroc, now Edwards Air Force Base, took place in 1954. The base was closed for three days and no one was allowed to enter or leave during that time. The historical event had been planned in advance. Details of a treaty had been agreed upon. Eisenhower arranged to be in Palm Springs on vacation. On the appointed day the President was spirited to the base. The excuse was given to the press that he was visiting a dentist. Witnesses to the event have stated that three UFOs flew over the base and then landed. Antiaircraft batteries were undergoing live-fire training and the startled personnel actually fired at the crafts as they passed overhead... the shells missed and no one was injured (Note: These three craft were apparently from the orbiting "gray" craft that the 'humanoids' warned the government about. This 'meeting' apparently resulted in one of the major 'U.S. government - Gray' treaties. The fact that the startled gunners failed to destroy the alien ships may have been unfortunate, as such an event might have led to an abort of the so-called 'treaty' deal with the grays - Branton).

"President Eisenhower met with the aliens on February 20, 1954, and a formal treaty between the alien nation and the United States of America was signed. We then received our first alien ambassador from outer space. He was the hostage that had been left at the first landing in the desert. His name was 'His Omnipotent Highness Crilll or Krilll,' pronounced Crill or Krill. In the American tradition of disdain for royal titles he was secretly called 'ORIGINAL HOSTAGE CRILL, OR KRILL.' Shortly after this meeting President Eisenhower suffered a heart attack"--- Bill Cooper

i know this stuff is crazy and i will be called a kook, but my gut cant help but believe in this stuff

 

[Philhelm]

Some may still want to make jokes. We have seen some in the threads. It may be just out of habit or as a defense mechanism. Regardless, this has just gotten serious.
Serious in the fact that credible folks are now talking, serious in the fact that a world body has appointed a representative.
There are many opinions about what or who they may be, or of what they are.

I am more concerned with How it will be used. And that is serious.

"never let a good crisis go to waste"

Are you suggesting that we have been visited by aliens and that this will be capitalized upon in order to bring about world governance, or do you think they will have credible people "admit" that aliens exist as a scheme to bring about world governance. I personally don't believe that we have been visited by aliens, but the possiblity remains.

If there are aliens that have visited us, then I suspect that the liberty movement will be destroyed in a single, life-changing day.

 

[Cinderella]

"The treaty stated that the aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. WE WOULD KEEP THEIR PRESENCE ON EARTH A SECRET. They would furnish us with advanced technology and would help us in our technological development. They would not make any treaty with any other Earth nation. THEY COULD ABDUCT HUMANS ON A LIMITED AND PERIODIC BASIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MEDICAL EXAMINATION AND MONITORING OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE HUMANS WOULD NOT BE HARMED, WOULD BE RETURNED TO THEIR POINT OF ABDUCTION, AND WOULD HAVE NO MEMORY OF THE EVENT, AND THAT THE ALIEN NATION WOULD FURNISH MAJESTY TWELVE WITH A LIST OF ALL HUMAN CONTACTS AND ABDUCTEES ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED BASIS.



"It was agreed that bases would be constructed underground for the use of the alien nation and that two bases would be constructed for the joint use of the alien nation and the United States Government. Exchange of technology would take place in the jointly occupied bases. THESE ALIEN BASES WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED UNDER INDIAN RESERVATIONS IN THE FOUR CORNERS AREA OF UTAH, COLORADO, NEW MEXICO AND ARIZONA, and one would be constructed in an area known as Dreamland (Note: Many sources allege that the reason the 'aliens' insisted on these underground bases beneath these particular areas was that 'they' in fact are not exclusively from other planetary bodies, but that they are originally from earth and have for centuries occupied deep cavern levels beneath the earth, and more recently beneath these areas of the southwest. The 'bases' then, which most in the government would believe are of exclusively human construction for use in 'joint' operations, would actually be 'covers' or 'fronts' for actual subterranean systems already largely under the control of this saurian race. This would explain why many human workers in these 'joint' bases have been kept highly compartmentalized; why many do not realize what's taking place in the lower levels or even that such lower levels exist when other deeper-level workers allege that they do; why the 'security' increases enormously the deeper one descends into these underground bases; and why the human influence decreases and the saurian-reptoid-gray-etc. influence increases the deeper one descends into these bases - Branton).

"Dreamland was built in the Mojave desert near, or in, a place called Yucca. I cannot remember if it was Yucca Valley, Yucca Flat, or Yucca Proving Ground, but Yucca Valley is what I always seem to want to say. MORE UFO SIGHTINGS AND INCIDENTS OCCUR IN THE MOJAVE DESERT OF CALIFORNIA THAN ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD. So many, in fact, that no one even bothers to make reports. Anyone who ventures into the desert to talk to the residents will be astounded by the frequency of activity and with the degree of acceptance demonstrated by those who have come to regard UFOs as normal. "
----Bill Cooper

 

[pcosmar]

Are you suggesting that we have been visited by aliens and that this will be capitalized upon in order to bring about world governance, or do you think they will have credible people "admit" that aliens exist as a scheme to bring about world governance. I personally don't believe that we have been visited by aliens, but the possiblity remains.

If there are aliens that have visited us, then I suspect that the liberty movement will be destroyed in a single, life-changing day.

NO

Are you suggesting that we have been visited by aliens

I made no statement nor suggestion of such.

and that this will be capitalized upon in order to bring about world governance,

I expect it. Time will tell.

I have deliberately NOT said exactly what I believe.
As I have said, This is serious.
I am basing this on observation and logic. Oh the history of reactions to panic.
This will have Global implications and hence will require a Global response.

 

[Bruno]

Are you suggesting that we have been visited by aliens and that this will be capitalized upon in order to bring about world governance, or do you think they will have credible people "admit" that aliens exist as a scheme to bring about world governance. I personally don't believe that we have been visited by aliens, but the possiblity remains.

If there are aliens that have visited us, then I suspect that the liberty movement will be destroyed in a single, life-changing day.

I know your question was not directed at me, but I do believe we have been visited for centuries, if not thousands of years. Many possibilities exist as to their intentions and our government's handling of the issue.

 

[idirtify]

True enough, you never claimed to be the originator, yet here you are, promoting the idea. I am a firm believer in conditioning tecniques, as I am sure you are, so I watch a lot of the "ideas" that get thrown out there. A lot of people repeat them w/o knowing what they are really repeating. Forget what I said, that your "pet" idea is "preposterous", state your case. I believe offense always goes first, as they "lost" the toss.

I already explained the basis for my “pet” idea. I said, “often the superior species will accelerate the evolution/development of the inferior species”. Although you called the idea “ridiculous, I didn’t see where you addressed my basis or explained your basis for disagreeing.

Admittedly we are talking about a speculative subject. But since the premise is that UFOs are real, we can only guess at what they are doing here and why. In that context, the pet/lab-animal idea seems reasonable. Look at how we humans treat less intelligent species. The development of pretty much any species that we have exploited or studied has benefited as a result. It’s a process of artificial selection for desired traits. Sometimes the process is intentional but other times it’s not. Ancient cultures probably had no idea they were practicing it when they domesticated dogs and cats and cows, yet the protection afforded them meant they were able to speed up their genetic diversity at “light speed”. At other times, the intent is overt. Most pet owners want their pets to be more like them, and for them to reproduce more and more varieties of shapes and colors and traits/personalities/abilities. And then of course you have the real genetic sciences where you have actual genetic splicing.

So what is so “ridiculous” about applying this relationship to the next logical extension, on up the hierarchy of intelligent species?

 

[Aratus]

nbc's second episode of THE EVENT last nite
tosses out an intersting e.t alien story-arc
dating from the 1940s "foo-fighter" reports...

 

[pcosmar]

nbc's second episode of THE EVENT last nite
tosses out an intersting e.t alien story-arc
dating from the 1940s "foo-fighter" reports...

The preparations and groundwork of this story has been around a long time.

 

[idirtify]

Some may still want to make jokes. We have seen some in the threads. It may be just out of habit or as a defense mechanism. Regardless, this has just gotten serious.
Serious in the fact that credible folks are now talking, serious in the fact that a world body has appointed a representative.
There are many opinions about what or who they may be, or of what they are.

I am more concerned with How it will be used. And that is serious.

"never let a good crisis go to waste"

If it’s true, I don’t see it as an actual crisis. It’s only being described as such by those whose powers might be shown to be less than supreme. IOW it’s only a matter of national security because weapons are being tampered with (and there are many unknowns).

I mean it’s always good to go in with skeptical eyes open, but what exactly is your concern with “how it will be used”?

 

[Imaginos]

Some may still want to make jokes. We have seen some in the threads. It may be just out of habit or as a defense mechanism. Regardless, this has just gotten serious.
Serious in the fact that credible folks are now talking, serious in the fact that a world body has appointed a representative.
There are many opinions about what or who they may be, or of what they are.

I am more concerned with How it will be used. And that is serious.

"never let a good crisis go to waste"

Great point.
I am also concerned with how it will be used.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste", indeed.

 

[pcosmar]

If it’s true,

IF? Do you deny that Unidentified Flying Objects exist?
Or,,do you somehow identify that which is unidentified, and then deny existance.
Unidentified is unidentified.
Otherwise we would be talking about IFOs. (Identified Flying Objects)

I mean it’s always good to go in with skeptical eyes open, but what exactly is your concern with “how it will be used”?

One World Government
I expect it. Many dream of it and work toward it.
And it seems that this could be a very likely avenue to institute it.

I am opposed, but, nonetheless expect it will happen.

 

[Original_Intent]

The aliens hate us for our freedoms...I think they have also heard that Earth Girls are Easy (c)

 

[idirtify]

IF? Do you deny that Unidentified Flying Objects exist?
Or,,do you somehow identify that which is unidentified, and then deny existance.
Unidentified is unidentified.
Otherwise we would be talking about IFOs. (Identified Flying Objects)


One World Government
I expect it. Many dream of it and work toward it.
And it seems that this could be a very likely avenue to institute it.

I am opposed, but, nonetheless expect it will happen.

I’m not completely understanding you. This thread is about the validity of the UFO phenomenon (technically that “UFO” is in the process of becoming “IFO”, identified as crafts operated by more intelligent species). How does any of that risk the furthering of one world government?

 

[Original_Intent]

Everything I need to know I learned from Babylon 5, season 4.

 

[pcosmar]

I’m not completely understanding you. This thread is about the validity of the UFO phenomenon (technically that “UFO” is in the process of becoming “IFO”, identified as crafts operated by more intelligent species). How does any of that risk the furthering of one world government?

Well. Actually " validity of the UFO phenomenon" is a good term. As far as "identifying",,No.
There is speculation as to what they are.
I make no claim. and yes I have a theory/belief, but have not presented it.

I am observing the reaction, Both the denial and the claims of knowledge.

As to my concerns of One World Government,,many people have been working to this end for many years. It is the stated goal of some. It is an unstated fantasy of others.
It is the subject of Biblical Prophecy.
I do believe the bible and hence this concerns me.

In the end it is something that I will have no control over, save for my own reaction to it.
So I am observing.

 

[idirtify]

Well. Actually " validity of the UFO phenomenon" is a good term. As far as "identifying",,No.
There is speculation as to what they are.
I make no claim. and yes I have a theory/belief, but have not presented it.

I am observing the reaction, Both the denial and the claims of knowledge.

As to my concerns of One World Government,,many people have been working to this end for many years. It is the stated goal of some. It is an unstated fantasy of others.
It is the subject of Biblical Prophecy.
I do believe the bible and hence this concerns me.

In the end it is something that I will have no control over, save for my own reaction to it.
So I am observing.

I still don’t understand. You have presented no explanation of how more information about the validity of the UFO phenomenon risks furthering one world government.

But since you admit that your basis is religion (the bible), at least that explains why you provide no reasonable explanation.