UC Berkeley cancels Milo Yiannopoulos event amid violent protest (RIOT) - 2/1 - LIVE

[heavenlyboy34]

What evidence is there for this?

Regardless, it doesn't explain why IQ predicts things like future income and rates of violence. Is that because of music? This becomes more ridiculous when you realize that blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Source? Those of us who majored in any branch of music are lol-ing at this claim.

 

[dannno]

blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Obviously you haven't heard tokimonsta (asian)

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Source? Those of us who majored in any branch of music are lol-ing at this claim.

Black music has revolutionized the musical world repeatedly, which is all the more incredible when you realize that much of it is based on spirituals sung by slaves. Black gospel, jazz, blues, doo-wop, rap. "Black music" (as a broad category) is more influential the world over than the music developed by any other race.

 

[dannno]

Black music has revolutionized the musical world repeatedly, which is all the more incredible when you realize that much of it is based on spirituals sung by slaves. Black gospel, jazz, blues, doo-wop, rap. "Black music" (as a broad category) is more influential the world over than the music developed by any other race.

hb likes boring ancient religious music. He really, really likes it though.

 

[Ender]

I don't believe that is accurate. The dominant major to med school is biological sciences.

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

Assuming that statistic is true, it doesn't actually indicate what you think it does.

 

[Ender]

What evidence is there for this?

Regardless, it doesn't explain why IQ predicts things like future income and rates of violence. Is that because of music? This becomes more ridiculous when you realize that blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Here's a paper written by the AMC.

http://advocacyformusiced.weebly.co...13193/amc_-_research_briefs,_did_you_know.pdf

And I am talking about music majors: the study and application of music theory etc. not just natural talent.

That said, I love "black" music- Jazz/R & B/Funk etc.

 

[timosman]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

How to Lie with Statistics - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393310728/

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Here's a paper written by the AMC.

http://advocacyformusiced.weebly.co...13193/amc_-_research_briefs,_did_you_know.pdf

And I am talking about music majors: the study and application of music theory etc. not just natural talent.

That said, I love "black" music- Jazz/R & B/Funk etc.

I'd have to actually look at all the studies, but none of this data actually vindicates your narrative. Even if we taught all children music and even if it increased their IQ, there's no reason to think the gaps wouldn't remain, considering how consistently observed they are and the heritability of IQ.

 

[AZJoe]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

I see. Googling the claim finds that it keeps referencing biologist Lewis Thomas, but does not reveal the actual report or data for the claim - how many, which years, etc.
Because the number of music major applicants to medical school is so minuscule, it is likely to be an aberration rather than a reliable predictor. And because the number of applicants is so tiny, those few music majors that actually strive to get into medical school are already likely to have some additional science aptitude or experience driving their desire to apply. Were a broad group of twenty thousand general music majors to apply each year, would two thirds of all medical students be music majors - displacing all the biology and science majors? That is unlikely. You cannot draw widespread conclusion from tiny anecdotal samples.

 

[AZJoe]

The protesting segments warned us that if Hillary were not elected, there would be violent fascists mobs silencing dissenting voices.
Unfortunately, they were right. They just failed to tell us the fascists mobs would be them, funded by Soros.

 

[Ender]

I see. Googling the claim finds that it keeps referencing biologist Lewis Thomas, but does not reveal the actual report or data for the claim - how many, which years, etc.
Because the number of music major applicants to medical school is so minuscule, it is likely to be an aberration rather than a reliable predictor. And because the number of applicants is so tiny, those few music majors that actually strive to get into medical school are already likely to have some additional science aptitude or experience driving their desire to apply. Were a broad group of twenty thousand general music majors to apply each year, would two thirds of all medical students be music majors - displacing all the biology and science majors? That is unlikely. You cannot draw widespread conclusion from tiny anecdotal samples.

My claim is valid.

I deal with teaching arts to youth; arts connect the brain so that the right & left function together instead of as separate entities. Music seems to be the fastest in this.

Had a brilliant friend that applied to Med School and was turned down 2x. I told him about the study; he took a summer off from other studies and took music only- he was accepted into Med School in the fall.

One of the original articles is posted above & is hard to find online nowadays but there is no doubt that arts connect the brain. I have seen it over and over- in my own life and 100s of teens.

And for those who think this is bunk-

As you wish.........

 

[timosman]

My claim is valid.

I deal with teaching arts to youth; arts connect the brain so that the right & left function together instead of as separate entities. Music seems to be the fastest in this.

Had a brilliant friend that applied to Med School and was turned down 2x. I told him about the study; he took a summer off from other studies and took music only- he was accepted into Med School in the fall.

One of the original articles is posted above & is hard to find online nowadays but there is no doubt that arts connect the brain. I have seen it over and over- in my own life and 100s of teens.

And for those who think this is bunk-

As you wish.........

 

[phill4paul]

‘Dilbert’ Creator Scott Adams to Stop Donating to Alma Mater UC Berkeley

Adams, who earned an MBA degree at UC Berkeley, announced that he is terminating his support of the public institution over concerns that he wouldn’t “feel safe or welcome on campus.”

"Speaking of Hitler, I’m ending my support of UC Berkeley, where I got my MBA years ago. I have been a big supporter lately, with both my time and money, but that ends today. I wish them well, but I wouldn’t feel safe or welcome on the campus. A Berkeley professor made that clear to me recently. He seems smart, so I’ll take his word for it.

I’ve decided to side with the Jewish gay immigrant who has an African-American boyfriend, not the hypnotized zombie-boys in black masks who were clubbing people who hold different points of view. I feel that’s reasonable, but I know many will disagree, and possibly try to club me to death if I walk on campus."

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/...t-adams-stop-donating-alma-mater-uc-berkeley/

 

[juleswin]

Jewish gay immigrant who has an African-American boyfriend,

When the liberals start questioning people even though they meet xy and z liberal favored characteristics, maybe it is a sign that the liberals have started to reject identity politics. The only negative part is that now people like Scott Adams who pretend to be conservatives are now embracing identity politics.

The more things change, the more they stay the same

 

[phill4paul]

When the liberals start questioning people even though they meet xy and z liberal favored characteristics, maybe it is a sign that the liberals have started to reject identity politics. The only negative part is that now people like Scott Adams who pretend to be conservatives are now embracing identity politics.

The more things change, the more they stay the same

I'm pretty sure he is not embracing identity politics but mirroring the hypocrisy of it. But, you'd have to ask him I suppose.

 

[timosman]

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/...t-adams-stop-donating-alma-mater-uc-berkeley/

 

[Ender]

Cool-

I live by the 5 Agreements. The 5th is:

5. The Power of Doubt: BE SKEPTICAL, BUT LEARN TO LISTEN

Don’t believe yourself or anybody else. Use the power of doubt to question everything you hear: Is it really the truth? Listen to the intent behind the words, and you will understand the real message.

"When you learn to listen, you know exactly what other people want. Once you know what they want, what you do with that information is up to you. You can react or not react, you can agree or disagree with what they say, and that depends on what you want."

http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-5773/Living-Don-Miguel-Ruizs-Five-Agreements.html

My motto is: QUESTION EVERYTHING.

 

[dannno]

When the liberals start questioning people even though they meet xy and z liberal favored characteristics, maybe it is a sign that the liberals have started to reject identity politics. The only negative part is that now people like Scott Adams who pretend to be conservatives are now embracing identity politics.

The more things change, the more they stay the same

Hah, that's why liberals have always liked Anne Coulter, right??

Leftists always want to protect women and minorities as long as they are on the left.. if they are on the right then their minority status gets revoked..

That is how leftists play identity politics..

That said, I wonder how many people who were protesting Milo even knew he was gay, let-alone a Jewish immigrant.. all they hear is that he is a neo-nazi white supremacist who supports Trump... and he is NOT a neo-nazi white supremacist..

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Black music has revolutionized the musical world repeatedly, which is all the more incredible when you realize that much of it is based on spirituals sung by slaves. Black gospel, jazz, blues, doo-wop, rap. "Black music" (as a broad category) is more influential the world over than the music developed by any other race.

A very, very VERY narrow view of Western music history (much less world music history). The genres you mention can't even be traced by musicologists before Murica. (That's a ~200 year sliver out of thousands of years of history) Jazz, blues, doo-wop, and rap particularly are classified as 20th century genres by historians. To think these are the most influential music styles evarrr is just ignorance. The most influential musicians in Western music BY FAR are the standards of the classical masters- i.e. Haydn, JS Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Verdi.