asurfaholic
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Every institution I’ve ever worked in has had those commercial doors that a master key would open the vast majority of individually keyed doors. Especially schools.
There are dead kids. give the parents a bit of respect..
The criminal act is being degraded by stupid theories. the real criminals are capitalizing on your bull$#@!.
Regardless of the real death-toll, Uvalde is a PSYOP.
yes it is,,but not because no one was killed.. but because the reason kids were killed.
Either way, it's a horrific tragedy. But the point is that the Crying Wolf media needs to be held accountable. They are a key enabler in these shootings and the absence of honest media ensures that these kinds of events will continue to happen since nobody is doing real investigative journalism to get to the bottom of this garbage...
It just keeps getting worse ...
Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Uvalde-classroom-doors-17251116.php
Brian Chasnoff (18 June 2022)
Surveillance footage shows that police never tried to open a door to two classrooms at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde in the 77 minutes between the time a gunman entered the rooms and massacred 21 people and officers finally stormed in and killed him, according to a law enforcement source close to the investigation.
Investigators believe the 18-year-old gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers at the school on May 24 could not have locked the door to the connected classrooms from the inside, according to the source.
All classroom doors at Robb Elementary are designed to lock automatically when they are closed so that the only way to enter from the outside is with a key, the source said. Police might have assumed the door was locked, but the latest evidence suggests it may have been open the whole time, possibly due to a malfunction, the source said.
The surveillance footage indicates gunman Salvador Ramos, 18, was able to open the door to classroom 111 and enter with an assault-style rifle, the source said.
Another door led to classroom 112.
Ramos entered Robb Elementary at 11:33 a.m. that day through an exterior door that a teacher had pulled shut but that didn’t lock automatically as it was supposed to, indicating another malfunction in door locks at the school.
Police finally opened the door to classroom 111 and killed Ramos at 12:50 p.m. Whether the door was unlocked all along remains under investigation.
Regardless, officers had access the entire time to a “halligan” — a crowbar-like tool that could have opened the door to the classrooms even if it was locked, the source said.
Two minutes after Ramos entered the building, three Uvalde police officers chased him inside. Footage shows that Ramos fired rounds inside classrooms 111 and 112, briefly exited into the hallway and then re-entered through the door, the source said.
Ramos then shot at the officers through the closed door, grazing two of them with shrapnel. The officers retreated to wait for backup and heavy tactical equipment rather than force their way into the classrooms.
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“What were the failures?” Gutierrez continued. “Were they communication failures? Were they human error failures? Were they system failures? Or was it simply something as simple as not turning a doorknob? We need to know that. And the fact that they are hiding all of this information from the public and community in Uvalde is just a tragedy.”
That's all you took away from reading that entire write-up?
What the actual hell is this fedperson on about?
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Sounds like a situation where someone might be looking for revenge. Better lock him up with no charges and torture him before something bad happens.
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There be corruption...
Looking worse for the cops every day.
No one wants to address the elephant in the room. The media will talk about previous shootings, lessons learned, best practices, training, etc. And yet every time, those practices are not followed. The elephant is basic human survival instincts*. Despite training and bravado, no one wants to rush into harm's way. Obviously the type and degree of potential harm varies quite a bit, but no one wants to enter the range of an active shooter.
*Many parents will rush into harm's way, but once again, this an aspect of self-preservation by proxy.