TX - 21 Dead, Dozens Injured in Texas Elementary School Shooting

ClaytonB said:
Banning bump stocks in order to swing some other substantial political move would be a good deal. I'm not saying that's what happened (I don't know), but I'm completely sure that Trump doesn't personally give a damn about banning bump stocks. The man just spoke at the NRA national convention two days after a school shooting that, according to the Swamp Calculus, "ought to have been canceled". Explain to me again how Trump is a secret anti-gunner???
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Trump has a long history being anti-gun. See jmdrake's post above.

The NRA is a bankrupt joke since real gun owners realize they are part of the problem, know the history of how they were founded to create gun control laws and their history of conceding our rights. NRA is just a show for normies that do not know any better and do not donate. If Trump was really pro-gun he would be speaking on behalf and working with GOA to restore our gun rights.

ClaytonB said:
Nobody hates Trump more than the Republican Swamp. That's the single most important reason why I continue to follow him with interest.
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Trump did not drain the swamp, he filled it. He endorses the swamp each and every time, while opposing those and trashing those that support his platform or whom are for limited government. He filled practically every position with swamp creatures. The swamp loves Trump while the swamp creatures openly mock the rubes that fell for Trump saying he will drain the swamp.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Reason to Home School #79391

Seriously, I know a lot of people can't, their circumstances just do not permit it.

But I know many more who could, but just don't want to to, for whatever reasons.

Remove thine head from thine ass and want to.

Your child's life and mental health, on so many levels, depends on it.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

And a lot more than just your child's life and mental health is at stake:

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1531007546655485952
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They Don't Need Your Guns If They Have Your Children
UnWokable Mark Ousley DEI destroys the myth that DEI is not CRT using Norman Oklahoma Public School DEI "Teaching for Equity" Teacher Training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbhCuEBngU
 
ClaytonB said:
Trump did not invent EOs on guns: President Obama’s 2015 Executive Actions on Gun Control
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Nice try. No cigar. Two of Obama's executive orders actually EXPANDED gun right by undoing bad executive orders by Ronald Reagan. Obama allowed guns on Amtrak and in National forests. But also none of Obama's gun executive orders actually banned any guns or gun accessories.

I agree with the substance of what you're saying but, unless you're just politically naive, you know as well as I do that that's not how politics works. Politics is about saying all kinds of crap, and then doing what you actually care about. What were the actual outcomes of Trump's policies and presidency? Once again (in case you're not aware), I'm not a Trump-head. But all of the bitching and moaning I've heard about Trump from LP types has consistently turned out to be false or, at least, exaggerated.
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LOL. Nope. Politically naive is you believing Trump is actually good on gun control. Here is the deal. People got suckered by Trump because he said "build the wall" and that's what a lot of conservatives wanted to hear at the time. It became the number one issue. So weak conservatives allowed Trump to waffle on other issues. Trump even waffled on the wall. Then Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter and others called him out on it. Political naive is believing that you can afford to give a politician a "pass." That's not just naive. It's downright stupid. Naive is just not having enough experience to know better. You've been around since 2011. You should know better.
 
ClaytonB said:
Banning bump stocks in order to swing some other substantial political move would be a good deal. I'm not saying that's what happened (I don't know), but I'm completely sure that Trump doesn't personally give a damn about banning bump stocks. The man just spoke at the NRA national convention two days after a school shooting that, according to the Swamp Calculus, "ought to have been canceled". Explain to me again how Trump is a secret anti-gunner???
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That's just it. Trump doesn't give a damn about anything! No principles whatsoever. If he could get re-electing not banning a single gun he would do it. If he could get re-elected by banning every single gun he would do it. Good deal? Are you freaking serious? Good deal for who? Certainly not the American people. Trump doesn't even care about the people in jail and/or prison over January 6th. He never called for a massive protest over them. But he called for the "biggest protest ever" if some prosecutor ever got too close to convicting him. I'm not saying Trump's never useful. An empty suit can be helpful if you have enough wind behind your cause to blow him in your direction. But that doesn't happen by making excuses for his BS.
 
jmdrake said:
That's just it. Trump doesn't give a damn about anything! No principles whatsoever. If he could get re-electing not banning a single gun he would do it. If he could get re-elected by banning every single gun he would do it. Good deal? Are you freaking serious? Good deal for who? Certainly not the American people. Trump doesn't even care about the people in jail and/or prison over January 6th. He never called for a massive protest over them. But he called for the "biggest protest ever" if some prosecutor ever got too close to convicting him. I'm not saying Trump's never useful. An empty suit can be helpful if you have enough wind behind your cause to blow him in your direction. But that doesn't happen by making excuses for his BS.
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This is an accurate statement
 
jmdrake said:
Nice try. No cigar. Two of Obama's executive orders actually EXPANDED gun right by undoing bad executive orders by Ronald Reagan. Obama allowed guns on Amtrak and in National forests. But also none of Obama's gun executive orders actually banned any guns or gun accessories.
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You're just splitting hairs. The D's would have rammed an EO through to ban guns a long time ago if that was actually possible. It isn't, not effectively anyway. Both sides know that.

Here is the deal.
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No, here's the deal. You keep telling me what I believe. You speak for yourself and I'll speak for myself. That's the deal.

<Strawman BS snipped>

You've been around since 2011.
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And long before that. That should be your clue that you're not really paying attention to what I'm saying. You're just spouting Red-Blue template thinking. I have better things to do with my time than re-walking well-worn trails refuting Red-Blue NPC narratives.
 
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jmdrake said:
That's just it. Trump doesn't give a damn about anything! No principles whatsoever. If he could get re-electing not banning a single gun he would do it. If he could get re-elected by banning every single gun he would do it. Good deal? Are you freaking serious? Good deal for who? Certainly not the American people. Trump doesn't even care about the people in jail and/or prison over January 6th. He never called for a massive protest over them. But he called for the "biggest protest ever" if some prosecutor ever got too close to convicting him. I'm not saying Trump's never useful. An empty suit can be helpful if you have enough wind behind your cause to blow him in your direction. But that doesn't happen by making excuses for his BS.
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ClaytonB said:
You're just splitting hairs. The D's would have rammed an EO through to ban guns a long time ago if that was actually possible. It isn't, not effectively anyway. Both sides know that.



No, here's the deal. You keep telling me what I believe. You speak for yourself and I'll speak for myself. That's the deal.

<Strawman BS snipped>



And long before that. That should be your clue that you're not really paying attention to what I'm saying. You're just spouting Red-Blue template thinking. I have better things to do with my time than re-walking well-worn trails refuting Red-Blue NPC narratives.
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*YAWN* The sad truth is that you don't realize Trump is a democrat.

Edit: This is what I know, and you apparently do not. Trump's treacherous bumpfire stock ban was upheld by the 5th circuit court of appeals.

https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/12/us-federal-appeals-court-upholds-bump-stock-ban/

It did lose in the 6th circuilt.

https://reason.com/2021/03/26/trumps-bump-stock-ban-just-lost-big-in-federal-court/

https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/12/bump-stock-ban-heading-for-the-supreme-court-again/

It's headed to the Supreme Court. Back in 2020 the SCOTUS refused to overturn the ban.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-justices-reject-appeal-over-bump-stock-ban

Now here's the problem with your ridiculous conclusion. A gun accessory ban by executive order has ALREADY WORKED! Trump has proved it. So far it's lasted longer than Biden's vaccine mandate. And here is a chilling part:

Because that federal law carries criminal penalties, some judges have argued that that Chevron deference–the deference courts generally afford an agency interpreting an ambiguous federal statute–does not apply at all.​

So if the ban gets struck down at all it's only over a minor technicality.
 
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jmdrake said:
That's just it. Trump doesn't give a damn about anything! No principles whatsoever. If he could get re-electing not banning a single gun he would do it. If he could get re-elected by banning every single gun he would do it. Good deal? Are you freaking serious? Good deal for who? Certainly not the American people. Trump doesn't even care about the people in jail and/or prison over January 6th. He never called for a massive protest over them. But he called for the "biggest protest ever" if some prosecutor ever got too close to convicting him. I'm not saying Trump's never useful. An empty suit can be helpful if you have enough wind behind your cause to blow him in your direction. But that doesn't happen by making excuses for his BS.
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I've got to admit that he wouldn't know the Constitution if it hit him upside the head.

He did do a few good things though, like his remain in Mexico thing. Got us out of the Paris Climate Accord, etc. He also didn't get us in another war, but Pompeo was trying in Venezuela for sure. His cabinet appointments were more than horrible. The worst thing for me is that he doesn't appear to have any principles whatsoever.

Not sure if I agree that the globalists love him. They sure worked damn hard to get him out of office.

I voted for him and in my opinion, after Rand dropped out, he was the best choice. I still think that.
 
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LibertyEagle said:
I've got to admit that he wouldn't know the Constitution if it hit him upside the head.

He did do a few good things though, like his remain in Mexico thing. Got us out of the Paris Climate Accord, etc. He also didn't get us in another war, but Pompeo was trying in Venezuela for sure. His cabinet appointments were more than horrible. The worst thing for me is that he doesn't appear to have any principles whatsoever.

Not sure if I agree that the globalists love him. They sure worked damn hard to get him out of office.

I voted for him and in my opinion, after Rand dropped out, he was the best choice. I still think that.
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And I respect that decision. I have no respect for those who switched to Trump before Rand dropped out, but Hillary would have been the end of this country. That crazy witch wanted a no fly zone over Syria to stop Russia from bombing Isis linked terrorists McCain supported "freedom fighters." And yeah, stay in Mexico made perfect sense and I'm glad we're not in the Paris accords. There are a few other things Trump did that I liked such as criminal justice reform and help for HBCUs. He wasn't all bad. As long as you could get what you wanted lined up with his ego you could get something positive done. Hillary was just evil. Biden....isn't all there. Kamala Harris is a black Hillary Clinton. Actually worse. Hillary didn't sleep her way to the top. Well...except for sleeping with Bill but they did get married.
 
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