TX - 21 Dead, Dozens Injured in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[dannno]

???

What's the exact opposite of a white supremacist? A transgender mexican?

Did we just have two mass shootings in the span of 10 days by completely polar opposite extremists? Would this be surprising? Did they both have handlers? Is this a sign that these events were inserted by the simulation (for those who consider we live in a computer simulation)?

 

[DamianTV]

Another push by the Democrats for a Gun Grab. Hey Democrats, how about you make all the people you hire to protect your thieving asses from us turn in THEIR guns first? Oh yeah, you want an ARMED GOVT and DISARMED POPULATION. Which yet again supports the idea that this is yet another False Flag.

For the record, False Flag does NOT mean that people did not die. It means their "official" story does not match what actually happened. Probably multiple shooters. And funny how the "single killer" always manages to "kill themselves"? Sandy Hook all over again.

How about this for a solution? ARM YOUR TEACHERS? Since I am a fan of Homeschooling, that means MOM AND DAD teach the kids to use guns responsibly!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Michael Moore: We Need Moratorium on Gun Sales — ‘Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...n-gun-sales-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/

PAM KEY 24 May 2022

Leftist activist and filmmaker Michael Moore said Tuesday on “MSNBC Prime” that America needs to repeal the 2nd Amendment in response to a deadly mass shooting at a Texas elementary school today.

Moore said, “We will not acknowledge that we are a violent people, to begin with. This country was birthed in violence with genocide of the native people at the barrel of a gun. This country was built on the backs of slaves with a gun to their backs to build this country into the country that we got to have. We do not want to acknowledge or two original sins here that have a gun behind the ability behind our ability to become who we became.”

He added, “I don’t want to nickel and dime this. I don’t think that that is going to do it. I think we need some really drastic action here. We need a moratorium, perhaps, on gun sales. Who will say on this network or on any other network in the next few days it is time to repeal the Second Amendment? You cannot say that. Well, why not? Why not? I truly believe if Jefferson, Madison and Washington if they all knew that the bullet would be invented — some 50 years after our revolution, I don’t know if they would have written it that way. They didn’t even know what a bullet was. It didn’t exist until the 1830s. They had any idea that there would be this kind of carnage. You have to believe that the Founders of the country would not support it. I support all gun control legislation. Not sensible gun control legislation. We don’t need the sensible stuff. We need the hard-core stuff that is going to protect ourselves and our children.”

 

[dannno]

Michael Moore: We Need Moratorium on Gun Sales — ‘Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...n-gun-sales-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/

PAM KEY 24 May 2022

Leftist activist and filmmaker Michael Moore said Tuesday on “MSNBC Prime” that America needs to repeal the 2nd Amendment in response to a deadly mass shooting at a Texas elementary school today.

Moore said, “We will not acknowledge that we are a violent people, to begin with. This country was birthed in violence with genocide of the native people at the barrel of a gun. This country was built on the backs of slaves with a gun to their backs to build this country into the country that we got to have. We do not want to acknowledge or two original sins here that have a gun behind the ability behind our ability to become who we became.”

He added, “I don’t want to nickel and dime this. I don’t think that that is going to do it. I think we need some really drastic action here. We need a moratorium, perhaps, on gun sales. Who will say on this network or on any other network in the next few days it is time to repeal the Second Amendment? You cannot say that. Well, why not? Why not? I truly believe if Jefferson, Madison and Washington if they all knew that the bullet would be invented — some 50 years after our revolution, I don’t know if they would have written it that way. They didn’t even know what a bullet was. It didn’t exist until the 1830s. They had any idea that there would be this kind of carnage. You have to believe that the Founders of the country would not support it. I support all gun control legislation. Not sensible gun control legislation. We don’t need the sensible stuff. We need the hard-core stuff that is going to protect ourselves and our children.”

3D printer still go brrrrrrr

 

[jmdrake]

The media is keeping score. Right now, this new shooter is in second place. Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook scored 20 children, Salvador Ramos in Texas scored 19 children. Stay on the edge of your seats folks, as the score may still change. We may have a tie by the time it is done. Rumor has it that a half time show is being planned with performances by Beyonce and Coldplay, with a special message from Kamala Harris about the horrors of guns, and gun horror, and how gun horror needs to be stopped to prevent gun horror.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+media+coverage+causes+more+shootings&t=raspberrypi&ia=web

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296697/

Abstract
Mass shootings are a particular problem in the United States, with one mass shooting occurring approximately every 12.5 days.

Recently a “contagion” effect has been suggested wherein the occurrence of one mass shooting increases the likelihood of another mass shooting occurring in the near future. Although contagion is a convenient metaphor used to describe the temporal spread of a behavior, it does not explain how the behavior spreads. Generalized imitation is proposed as a better model to explain how one person’s behavior can influence another person to engage in similar behavior.

Here we provide an overview of generalized imitation and discuss how the way in which the media report a mass shooting can increase the likelihood of another shooting event. Also, we propose media reporting guidelines to minimize imitation and further decrease the likelihood of a mass shooting.​

Bottom line...more coverage = more mass shootings. But media don't care.

 

[Snowball]

It looks like this one happened as claimed. There is certainly a problem with mentally ill, YOUNG and unstable, and criminal elements getting their hands on assault weapons. The ghost gun issue is difficult to tackle, but this one is cut & dry. Of course, no common-sense solutions are being proposed. We can reliably count on congress and this president doing the dumbest, most objectionable thing imaginable.

I would suggest raising the age of purchase from 18 to 25 or even 30. Ramos bought them on his 18th birthday.

Nothing else to add. Everyone has to watch out for themselves. There are a lot of druggies and criminals out there.
This country is descending into chaos and all you can do is look out for yourself or leave.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Real (I think..)

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Fact Check: Is Salvador Ramos Transgender? Texas Shooter Gender Identity & Motive
https://showbizcorner.com/salvador-ramos-transgender-texas-shooter-gender-identity-motive




???

Come on. Looks like a photoshopped version of the picture at the link, and how do we even know that is Salvador Ramos?

 

[Anti Globalist]

Remember folks, most mass shootings are false flags in an effort to repeal the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Okie RP fan]

I know that these events are "supposed to" play for the D-swamp gun-control agenda... but have we considered the possibility that they may have lost control of the beast they have conjured from the Abyss in order to orchestrate this garbage? These more recent mass shootings seem... absurd, in the sense that they appear to be equally politically damaging to either side. It's obvious that they have been baiting a mass-shooting by some kind of "disgruntled, heavily-armed white-supremacist" for decades, in the hopes that that will be the 911 event for a nationwide gun-grab. "Bowling for Columbine", in other words. They keep throwing gutter-balls but, until the doomsday virus, at least they were throwing the balls down the lane in the direction of the pins. Now, it appears that they are just dropping the bowling ball in the urinal and then proceeding to scribble all over the bowling lane with sidewalk chalk. It seems to me that something has changed in mass shooting headlines...

Remember folks, most mass shootings are false flags in an effort to repeal the 2nd Amendment.

I don't think we need to assume EVERYTHING is a false flag. Have there been false flags? Absolutely. Are there still? Very much most likely.
Maybe sometimes we see that natural violent little tidbit of society pop up. This thing that committed this act against innocent children...

Well, you can either believe in demons or if you don't, some humans are just wired very strangely.

It looks like this one happened as claimed. There is certainly a problem with mentally ill, YOUNG and unstable, and criminal elements getting their hands on assault weapons. The ghost gun issue is difficult to tackle, but this one is cut & dry. Of course, no common-sense solutions are being proposed. We can reliably count on congress and this president doing the dumbest, most objectionable thing imaginable.

I would suggest raising the age of purchase from 18 to 25 or even 30. Ramos bought them on his 18th birthday.

Nothing else to add. Everyone has to watch out for themselves. There are a lot of druggies and criminals out there.
This country is descending into chaos and all you can do is look out for yourself or leave.

And here we are, even I'm wondering this morning what can be done to prevent these things. This, of course, is what "they" want - to have the millions of gun owners feel guilty and start inching toward a "compromise." Even so, maybe allowing high capacity assault rifles to 18 year olds needs to be reassessed and begin licensing in the 20s. Even still, that can be circumvented.

And I have a question: how are we supposed to keep guns out of this country when we want an open border? Ask the lefties that and see what they say.

By the way, the culture will shift after yesterday's event. Just look on social media: mostly silence from gun owners and right wingers while the left is writing their desires all over the walls from the blood of those children. Impassioned pleas for gun control will be heard with more seriousness now due to the emotional outbursts of celebs, talking heads, etc.

That's how all of this works.

 

[dannno]

Come on. Looks like a photoshopped version of the picture at the link, and how do we even know that is Salvador Ramos?

I first saw it in the zerohedge link that donnay posted, it was the second photo. The name of the instagram account was "TheBiggestOpp"

The one I posted above that you quoted is the second photo from instagram account Salv8dor_, which is allegedly the account he used to communicate with the female on instagram before the shooting. Notice that if he did transition to female, he would look a lot like the female on the instagram account that he communicated with.

It doesn't appear to be photoshopped, the hair is the same length, but the strands are going in slightly different directions.

There are many other photos going around that do appear to be fake. This one appears to be legit, but hard to say for certain. If the first one is him, the second is probably legit. I'm not seeing claims that the first photo is fake, that one seems to be pretty widespread as well.

Keep in mind, when you have one photo that is legit, the best way to discredit it is to put out a bunch of fake photos. That way when you show people the real one, they say, "oh, I saw that, those are all fake photos".

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

It looks like this one happened as claimed. There is certainly a problem with mentally ill, YOUNG and unstable, and criminal elements getting their hands on assault weapons. The ghost gun issue is difficult to tackle, but this one is cut & dry. Of course, no common-sense solutions are being proposed. We can reliably count on congress and this president doing the dumbest, most objectionable thing imaginable.

I would suggest raising the age of purchase from 18 to 25 or even 30. Ramos bought them on his 18th birthday.

Nothing else to add. Everyone has to watch out for themselves. There are a lot of druggies and criminals out there.
This country is descending into chaos and all you can do is look out for yourself or leave.

What happens when a person purchases a gun legally? I don't really know. Does their name go into a database? I would think if a person wants alcohol and are not old enough to buy it they find a way to get it. I would bet the same for a gun. Would it be better to know a person purchased a weapon or not know? Are transgender people less sane than people that are not trans? Not saying this person is trans or has any gender issues but if they are, should congress limit their gun rights instead of everyones? What about people on psych meds? Should they not be allowed?

 

[Invisible Man]

I don't really know. Does their name go into a database?

Most of the time. But there are legal ways to buy guns without that happening.

At least for now. This is something the gun controllers want to change.

 

[ClaytonB]

I don't think we need to assume EVERYTHING is a false flag. Have there been false flags? Absolutely. Are there still? Very much most likely.
Maybe sometimes we see that natural violent little tidbit of society pop up. This thing that committed this act against innocent children...

It has nothing to do with assuming anything, it has to do with The Boy Who Cried Wolf. If you want to play the Fake News game, then this is the bed you have made, so sleep in it. The liar is not believed even when he tells the truth. So what is real and what is fake? I don't give a damn, it's all fake lies as far as I'm concerned. The Media has wholly and completely discredited itself and that's on them, not me. Their job is very simple: write down or verbally report what you see and hear. Instead, we have Alex-Jones-level clown-world fakery and showmanship wrapped in Nordstrom pencil skirts and stern faces being pawned off as "the 6 o'clock news". Clown World is Clown World, so let's get this circus started...

 

[paleocon1]

The media is keeping score. Right now, this new shooter is in second place. Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook scored 20 children, Salvador Ramos in Texas scored 19 children. Stay on the edge of your seats folks, as the score may still change. We may have a tie by the time it is done. Rumor has it that a half time show is being planned with performances by Beyonce and Coldplay, with a special message from Kamala Harris about the horrors of guns, and gun horror, and how gun horror needs to be stopped to prevent gun horror.

Evidence seems to be that Sandyhook was a 100% hoax. The school had been closed for several years at the time of the 'shooting'.
As to the Uvalde event- if real odds are high that the shooter had outside handlers/groomers and he was on mind altering meds. Black Op for demoRat political gain until proven otherwise.

 

[paleocon1]

Michael Moore: We Need Moratorium on Gun Sales — ‘Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...n-gun-sales-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/

PAM KEY 24 May 2022

Leftist activist and filmmaker Michael Moore said Tuesday on “MSNBC Prime” that America needs to repeal the 2nd Amendment in response to a deadly mass shooting at a Texas elementary school today.

Moore said, “We will not acknowledge that we are a violent people, to begin with. This country was birthed in violence with genocide of the native people at the barrel of a gun. This country was built on the backs of slaves with a gun to their backs to build this country into the country that we got to have. We do not want to acknowledge or two original sins here that have a gun behind the ability behind our ability to become who we became.”

He added, “I don’t want to nickel and dime this. I don’t think that that is going to do it. I think we need some really drastic action here. We need a moratorium, perhaps, on gun sales. Who will say on this network or on any other network in the next few days it is time to repeal the Second Amendment? You cannot say that. Well, why not? Why not? I truly believe if Jefferson, Madison and Washington if they all knew that the bullet would be invented — some 50 years after our revolution, I don’t know if they would have written it that way. They didn’t even know what a bullet was. It didn’t exist until the 1830s. They had any idea that there would be this kind of carnage. You have to believe that the Founders of the country would not support it. I support all gun control legislation. Not sensible gun control legislation. We don’t need the sensible stuff. We need the hard-core stuff that is going to protect ourselves and our children.”

Nah, lets just hang Michael Moore for treason at Gitmo.

 

[DamianTV]

Of course they WILL talk about this since the Narrative supports their Agenda. The agenda is to come up with an excuse to forcibly disarm the public. The narrative needs to be that "guns cause violence".

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The fog of war...

Texas officials are clapping themselves on the back for what they’ve described as “heroic” and “courageous” actions by law enforcement who responded to an armed 18-year-old at an elementary school on Tuesday.
...
When asked how much time passed between the gunman arriving at the school and the gunman being killed, Texas’ Director of Public Safety Steve McCraw offered an indefinite response.

“Forty minutes, an hour,” he said. “But I don’t want to give you a particular timeline.”
...
A school resource officer had heard the reports about the crashed vehicle, so he confronted him, according to McCraw. The gunman entered the school anyway. “[The school resource officer] followed him right in immediately,” McCraw said. At that point, “rounds were exchanged.” Then officers from the Uvalde Police Department arrived. There was more shooting, and the officers were wounded (though other officials have said repeatedly that they sustained just minor injuries).

Eventually, those officers “were responsible” for containing the gunman in a classroom, McCraw said. (Spokespersons for the Texas Department of Public Safety had repeatedly told news outlets earlier that the suspect barricaded himself into the classroom and immediately started shooting.)

Spokespersons from Texas Department of Public Safety said in several media interviews that Uvalde Police first received 911 calls at around 11:20 a.m. local time reporting the crash, and reporting a man wearing a backpack, some form of body armor, and holding a rifle, approaching Robb Elementary.

At 11:43 a.m., the school announced that it was going on lockdown, according to KSAT, a local news station. That was the same time that the Uvalde Police Department wrote on Facebook that the school was the site of an active police scene and urged people to avoid the area.

At 12:17 p.m., the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District wrote on social media that there was an active shooter at Robb Elementary, and that people should avoid the area.

At 1:06 p.m., more than an hour and a half after those first 911 calls were made, the Uvalde Police Department said that the shooter “was in police custody.”

It isn’t necessarily unusual for timelines to shift in the immediate aftermath of a chaotic shooting like the one that happened in Uvalde. But the difference between some of the official accounts were striking.

Consistent with what McCraw said, Texas DPS Sgt. Erick Estrada indicated in several media interviews that the gunman encountered law enforcement before he entered the school building. Estrada said a school resource officer assigned to Robb Elementary first tried and failed to stop him. The gunman then encountered two more officers from the Uvalde Police Department.

“They weren’t able to stop him there, so they did ask for assistance,” Estrada told CNN. A tactical unit arrived “and eliminated the threat,” Estrada said. “Unfortunately, before that happened, the shooter did manage to make entry into the school.”

Another spokesperson for DPS offered a different version of events. Lt. Chris Olivarez said that when law enforcement, including the school resource officer, responded to the scene, they could already hear gunshots coming from inside the school, according to multiple news outlets.
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More: https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkp7gm/police-timeline-texas-school-shooting

 

[Anti Globalist]

Heard 21 people have now been confirmed to have been killed. Looks like Ramos has now officially killed more people than Adam Lanza.

 

[devil21]

I feel that the FBI groomed up this guy and told him he is doing it for his family....oopsie he got killed

I feel that this is another fake ass story from the usual fake ass story generating machine. Nothing about this story makes sense. But that doesn't matter since few ever look into the details and think critically about what they're being told. I could post a link to the 500 page pdf file "Nobody Died At Sandy Hook" if you need a refresher on fake school shootings.

Are the Gofundme family pages up yet? Factoring in inflation this one should be worth a cool billion$ to the participants.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Michael Moore: We Need Moratorium on Gun Sales — ‘Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...n-gun-sales-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/

PAM KEY 24 May 2022

Leftist activist and filmmaker Michael Moore said Tuesday on “MSNBC Prime” that America needs to repeal the 2nd Amendment in response to a deadly mass shooting at a Texas elementary school today.

Moore said, “We will not acknowledge that we are a violent people, to begin with. This country was birthed in violence with genocide of the native people at the barrel of a gun. This country was built on the backs of slaves with a gun to their backs to build this country into the country that we got to have. We do not want to acknowledge or two original sins here that have a gun behind the ability behind our ability to become who we became.”

He added, “I don’t want to nickel and dime this. I don’t think that that is going to do it. I think we need some really drastic action here. We need a moratorium, perhaps, on gun sales. Who will say on this network or on any other network in the next few days it is time to repeal the Second Amendment? You cannot say that. Well, why not? Why not? I truly believe if Jefferson, Madison and Washington if they all knew that the bullet would be invented — some 50 years after our revolution, I don’t know if they would have written it that way. They didn’t even know what a bullet was. It didn’t exist until the 1830s. They had any idea that there would be this kind of carnage. You have to believe that the Founders of the country would not support it. I support all gun control legislation. Not sensible gun control legislation. We don’t need the sensible stuff. We need the hard-core stuff that is going to protect ourselves and our children.”

Michael Moore can kindly fck off and go back to being irrelevant.