Trump’s path to Re-election?

[nobody's_hero]

Maybe if most of America ignores Tulsi it will be as if she never said anything. But most is not all and the record will be clear for historians after the US collapses, which is happening right now. And it couldn't come soon enough.

I need to see her body-slam the media and the drag them face down over glass shards, then grab them by the hair and fling them off a mountain. Until then, advantage Trump.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

You know that isn't true. So why would you say it?

Maybe if most of America ignores Tulsi it will be as if she never said anything. But most is not all and the record will be clear for historians after the US collapses, which is happening right now. And it couldn't come soon enough.
...

Tulsi who? You answered your own complaint above. Obviously I know who she is, but the mainstream media has blacked her out, and if they do mention her, it’s only to attack her. We’ll see if she gains any traction in the debates, but let me predict this right now: there will be main Democrat debates, and there will be the “children’s table”. She will be at the Dems children’s table debate. They might even televise it, at a less than prime time.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In July, the bookmakers predicted, with 2-1 odds, that Donald Trump would be impeached and removed from office.
Now, they predict Trump as the winner in the presidential election of 2020. And Trump’s odds, of winning, a bookie told Paul Bedard of the Washington Examiner, have not worsened with communist apologist Bernie Sanders’ entry into the Democratic race.
Recent hate hoaxes aimed at vilifying supporters of the president certainly haven’t helped the cause of anti-Trump Democrats, who call Trump a racist and other names as frequently as they can.
But no matter what they call him, barring a disaster, the bookies say, it appears Americans will reelect The Donald.
3-2 Winner
Quoting the Vegas makers of the book, Bedard reported that Trump “has a 3-2 lock to win re-election.” His nearest competitor is Senator Kamala Harris at 8-1
That means betting $2 on Trump wins $3, or $100 wins $150. Wagering $100 on Harris to win is the more lucrative wager — an $800 payout for that unpleasant outcome.
Anyway, Dave Mason, the sportsbook brand manager of BetOnline.ag told Bedard “there were no changes to Sanders’ odds following the announcement. We had it as a foregone conclusion that he will be in the Democratic mix.”
Sanders is now at 14-1, up from 28-1 in April 2017.
Mason told Bedard that Sanders is fourth in the bet count behind Harris, fellow oldster Joe Biden, at 12-1, and Beto O’Rourke, he of the Instagram imprudent and revotling dental video, at 10-1.
And Trump’s odd are unchanged since August.

Other Oddsmakers
Another website, Bovada, uses American odds and also puts Trump as the favorite. Its book has Trump at +200, or 2-1.
Following Trump is Harris at +500, 5-1, then Biden and O’Rourke at +800, 8-1. Sanders falls under those two at +1,000, 10-1. Fake Indian Elizabeth Warren is a whopping +2,200, 22-1, and falls behind fellow Senator Amy Klobuchar, who trails Sanders at +1,500, 15-1. Senator Cory Booker is at +3,500, 35-1.
Oddly, Bovada predicts a Democratic victory. It puts the generic Democrat candidate’s chances of winning at -150, 67-100 and the GOP’s at +120, or 6-5. In other words, betting $100 on the Democratic candidate yields only $67, where wagering $100 on the Republican will win $120.
Amusingly, the website even offers odds on those who aren’t candidates and wouldn’t have a chance of winning if they were.
Oprah Winfrey is at +5,000 and George Clooney, +10,000. Kanye West’s and Ivanka Trump’s odds of winning the presidency at +15,000, while Will Smith, Chelsea Clinton, and Leonardo DiCaprio are at +20,000.
Joe Rogan and Tom Brady are at +25,000.
Remember Hillary Clinton
The oddsmakers got it dead wrong on Clinton vs. Trump, much to the delight of those put their money on the real estate kingpin.
On October 25, two weeks before the election, the bookmakers at Bovada had Clinton at -550, 9-50 and Trump at +350, 7-2.
On November 1, Clinton’s odds decreased to -275, 9-25, but she was still way ahead of Trump’s +190, 19-10.
Then came election day.
At 7:58 p.m., Bovada put Clinton’s odds of winning at -700, 7-50. Trump’s chances? +475, 19-4. Three minutes later, Clinton was at -900, 11-100. Trump +550, 11-2.
Then the results began rolling in, with Trump winning state after state and Clinton’s chances falling precipitously. By 9:50 p.m., Clinton’s chances had tumbled to +105, 21-20, while Trump’s had risen to -135, 37-50.
By 11:52, Clinton had fallen to +1,000, 10-1. The Donald was at -2000, 1-20.
Angry feminists and enraged pajama boys weren’t the only Clinton backers shedding tears because the bookies — and the leftist media — told them for months Clinton was a sure bet.
Paddy Power, the same Irish betting site that in July put the chances of impeachment and removal for Trump at 2-1, lost almost $6 million. Weeks before the election, it paid out almost $1 million to Clinton bettors. It paid almost $5 million to the bettors smart enough to wager on Trump.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...inst-generic-republican-warning-remember-2016

 

[Anti Globalist]

Trump wins by a bigger landslide in the electoral college than the first go around.

We talking 1984 election kind of landslide?

 

[Kotin]

That was a big factor, along with positions like America First, jobs, tough trade negotiations, and to a certain extent, common sense anti-establishment positions like getting out of the endless wars and drain the swamp.

Now a Democrat could take on most of those positions, but they won’t. They are too caught up in the SJW mentality which means they must agree with open borders and importing as many people as possible. They will never get back the real, working, blue dog Democrat voters with that.

Instead of jobs, they will offer free stuff, and most adults won’t fall for it.

And like Hillary, a Democrat who pushes the victimhood intersectional matrix and essentially the “hate men” or “hate white people” position will never win the general. That applies to quite a few in the Democrat field so far. They are almost as despised as Hillary.

The Democrats will depend upon the popular vote in big cities, but it probably won’t be enough (until they can increase the population in the cities in red and purple states).

Advantage Trump.

very good points!

the dems are fools for pushing out the moderates and conservative democrats in favor of this feel-good bullshit

 

[TER]

We talking 1984 election kind of landslide?

Very possible.

All depends if voter fraud is minimized.

 

[oyarde]

That was a big factor, along with positions like America First, jobs, tough trade negotiations, and to a certain extent, common sense anti-establishment positions like getting out of the endless wars and drain the swamp.

Now a Democrat could take on most of those positions, but they won’t. They are too caught up in the SJW mentality which means they must agree with open borders and importing as many people as possible. They will never get back the real, working, blue dog Democrat voters with that.

Instead of jobs, they will offer free stuff, and most adults won’t fall for it.

And like Hillary, a Democrat who pushes the victimhood intersectional matrix and essentially the “hate men” or “hate white people” position will never win the general. That applies to quite a few in the Democrat field so far. They are almost as despised as Hillary.

The Democrats will depend upon the popular vote in big cities, but it probably won’t be enough (until they can increase the population in the cities in red and purple states).

Advantage Trump.

Thats seems about it right now to me .

 

[oyarde]

In July, the bookmakers predicted, with 2-1 odds, that Donald Trump would be impeached and removed from office.
Now, they predict Trump as the winner in the presidential election of 2020. And Trump’s odds, of winning, a bookie told Paul Bedard of the Washington Examiner, have not worsened with communist apologist Bernie Sanders’ entry into the Democratic race.
Recent hate hoaxes aimed at vilifying supporters of the president certainly haven’t helped the cause of anti-Trump Democrats, who call Trump a racist and other names as frequently as they can.
But no matter what they call him, barring a disaster, the bookies say, it appears Americans will reelect The Donald.
3-2 Winner
Quoting the Vegas makers of the book, Bedard reported that Trump “has a 3-2 lock to win re-election.” His nearest competitor is Senator Kamala Harris at 8-1
That means betting $2 on Trump wins $3, or $100 wins $150. Wagering $100 on Harris to win is the more lucrative wager — an $800 payout for that unpleasant outcome.
Anyway, Dave Mason, the sportsbook brand manager of BetOnline.ag told Bedard “there were no changes to Sanders’ odds following the announcement. We had it as a foregone conclusion that he will be in the Democratic mix.”
Sanders is now at 14-1, up from 28-1 in April 2017.
Mason told Bedard that Sanders is fourth in the bet count behind Harris, fellow oldster Joe Biden, at 12-1, and Beto O’Rourke, he of the Instagram imprudent and revotling dental video, at 10-1.
And Trump’s odd are unchanged since August.

Other Oddsmakers
Another website, Bovada, uses American odds and also puts Trump as the favorite. Its book has Trump at +200, or 2-1.
Following Trump is Harris at +500, 5-1, then Biden and O’Rourke at +800, 8-1. Sanders falls under those two at +1,000, 10-1. Fake Indian Elizabeth Warren is a whopping +2,200, 22-1, and falls behind fellow Senator Amy Klobuchar, who trails Sanders at +1,500, 15-1. Senator Cory Booker is at +3,500, 35-1.
Oddly, Bovada predicts a Democratic victory. It puts the generic Democrat candidate’s chances of winning at -150, 67-100 and the GOP’s at +120, or 6-5. In other words, betting $100 on the Democratic candidate yields only $67, where wagering $100 on the Republican will win $120.
Amusingly, the website even offers odds on those who aren’t candidates and wouldn’t have a chance of winning if they were.
Oprah Winfrey is at +5,000 and George Clooney, +10,000. Kanye West’s and Ivanka Trump’s odds of winning the presidency at +15,000, while Will Smith, Chelsea Clinton, and Leonardo DiCaprio are at +20,000.
Joe Rogan and Tom Brady are at +25,000.
Remember Hillary Clinton
The oddsmakers got it dead wrong on Clinton vs. Trump, much to the delight of those put their money on the real estate kingpin.
On October 25, two weeks before the election, the bookmakers at Bovada had Clinton at -550, 9-50 and Trump at +350, 7-2.
On November 1, Clinton’s odds decreased to -275, 9-25, but she was still way ahead of Trump’s +190, 19-10.
Then came election day.
At 7:58 p.m., Bovada put Clinton’s odds of winning at -700, 7-50. Trump’s chances? +475, 19-4. Three minutes later, Clinton was at -900, 11-100. Trump +550, 11-2.
Then the results began rolling in, with Trump winning state after state and Clinton’s chances falling precipitously. By 9:50 p.m., Clinton’s chances had tumbled to +105, 21-20, while Trump’s had risen to -135, 37-50.
By 11:52, Clinton had fallen to +1,000, 10-1. The Donald was at -2000, 1-20.
Angry feminists and enraged pajama boys weren’t the only Clinton backers shedding tears because the bookies — and the leftist media — told them for months Clinton was a sure bet.
Paddy Power, the same Irish betting site that in July put the chances of impeachment and removal for Trump at 2-1, lost almost $6 million. Weeks before the election, it paid out almost $1 million to Clinton bettors. It paid almost $5 million to the bettors smart enough to wager on Trump.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...inst-generic-republican-warning-remember-2016

I am going to pull more votes than Dicaprio.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I am going to pull more votes than Dicaprio.

What about [MENTION=6186]Danke[/MENTION]?

 

[Mach]

Money talks, if he can just keep the economy around it's current level, or better, then a lot of people that are not sure won't want to take a gamble on a new way of doing things.

Also, I think the more Socialist the Dems go, the lower their odds of winning, there has to still be a lot of Democrats out there that don't fall for all of that pump-me-up-right-now-instant-reaction rhetoric, and they're not willing to give all of the Green Deal type stuff up in their lives, either.




https://www.oddsshark.com/other/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures

Name Odds
Donald Trump +200
Kamala Harris +500
Beto O’Rourke +800
Joe Biden +800
Bernie Sanders +1000
Amy Klobuchar +1500
Elizabeth Warren +2200
Tulsi Gabbard +2500
Michael Bloomberg +2500

 

[oyarde]

In July, the bookmakers predicted, with 2-1 odds, that Donald Trump would be impeached and removed from office.
Now, they predict Trump as the winner in the presidential election of 2020. And Trump’s odds, of winning, a bookie told Paul Bedard of the Washington Examiner, have not worsened with communist apologist Bernie Sanders’ entry into the Democratic race.
Recent hate hoaxes aimed at vilifying supporters of the president certainly haven’t helped the cause of anti-Trump Democrats, who call Trump a racist and other names as frequently as they can.
But no matter what they call him, barring a disaster, the bookies say, it appears Americans will reelect The Donald.
3-2 Winner
Quoting the Vegas makers of the book, Bedard reported that Trump “has a 3-2 lock to win re-election.” His nearest competitor is Senator Kamala Harris at 8-1
That means betting $2 on Trump wins $3, or $100 wins $150. Wagering $100 on Harris to win is the more lucrative wager — an $800 payout for that unpleasant outcome.
Anyway, Dave Mason, the sportsbook brand manager of BetOnline.ag told Bedard “there were no changes to Sanders’ odds following the announcement. We had it as a foregone conclusion that he will be in the Democratic mix.”
Sanders is now at 14-1, up from 28-1 in April 2017.
Mason told Bedard that Sanders is fourth in the bet count behind Harris, fellow oldster Joe Biden, at 12-1, and Beto O’Rourke, he of the Instagram imprudent and revotling dental video, at 10-1.
And Trump’s odd are unchanged since August.

Other Oddsmakers
Another website, Bovada, uses American odds and also puts Trump as the favorite. Its book has Trump at +200, or 2-1.
Following Trump is Harris at +500, 5-1, then Biden and O’Rourke at +800, 8-1. Sanders falls under those two at +1,000, 10-1. Fake Indian Elizabeth Warren is a whopping +2,200, 22-1, and falls behind fellow Senator Amy Klobuchar, who trails Sanders at +1,500, 15-1. Senator Cory Booker is at +3,500, 35-1.
Oddly, Bovada predicts a Democratic victory. It puts the generic Democrat candidate’s chances of winning at -150, 67-100 and the GOP’s at +120, or 6-5. In other words, betting $100 on the Democratic candidate yields only $67, where wagering $100 on the Republican will win $120.
Amusingly, the website even offers odds on those who aren’t candidates and wouldn’t have a chance of winning if they were.
Oprah Winfrey is at +5,000 and George Clooney, +10,000. Kanye West’s and Ivanka Trump’s odds of winning the presidency at +15,000, while Will Smith, Chelsea Clinton, and Leonardo DiCaprio are at +20,000.
Joe Rogan and Tom Brady are at +25,000.
Remember Hillary Clinton
The oddsmakers got it dead wrong on Clinton vs. Trump, much to the delight of those put their money on the real estate kingpin.
On October 25, two weeks before the election, the bookmakers at Bovada had Clinton at -550, 9-50 and Trump at +350, 7-2.
On November 1, Clinton’s odds decreased to -275, 9-25, but she was still way ahead of Trump’s +190, 19-10.
Then came election day.
At 7:58 p.m., Bovada put Clinton’s odds of winning at -700, 7-50. Trump’s chances? +475, 19-4. Three minutes later, Clinton was at -900, 11-100. Trump +550, 11-2.
Then the results began rolling in, with Trump winning state after state and Clinton’s chances falling precipitously. By 9:50 p.m., Clinton’s chances had tumbled to +105, 21-20, while Trump’s had risen to -135, 37-50.
By 11:52, Clinton had fallen to +1,000, 10-1. The Donald was at -2000, 1-20.
Angry feminists and enraged pajama boys weren’t the only Clinton backers shedding tears because the bookies — and the leftist media — told them for months Clinton was a sure bet.
Paddy Power, the same Irish betting site that in July put the chances of impeachment and removal for Trump at 2-1, lost almost $6 million. Weeks before the election, it paid out almost $1 million to Clinton bettors. It paid almost $5 million to the bettors smart enough to wager on Trump.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...inst-generic-republican-warning-remember-2016

I am going to pull more votes than Dicaprio.

 

[oyarde]

What about [MENTION=6186]Danke[/MENTION]?

Still worried that he and Sirhan Sirhan might slip up on me but I have a little breathing room right now .

 

[angelatc]

For the primary or general?

To win the Democrat nomination

 

[Brian4Liberty]

To win the Democrat nomination

It’s possible. It would be as big a mistake as Hillary. Her blame men, blame white people, reparations for slave descendants positions along with her inability to articulate herself is a loser for most of the nation.

Biden probably has the best chance of going all the way. Democrat #MeToo primary voters would have to swallow creepy Uncle Joe to get it done though.

 

[Champ]

It’s possible. It would be as big a mistake as Hillary. Her blame men, blame white people, reparations for slave descendants positions along with her inability to articulate herself is a loser for most of the nation.

Biden probably has the best chance of going all the way. Democrat #MeToo primary voters would have to swallow creepy Uncle Joe to get it done though.

Exactly. Which Dem candidate so far is taking an alternate to Hillary's approach in attacking all of these groups to gain positive media coverage and going all in for SJW purposes? None of them. Until they start offering something beyond tearing others down, they are reducing their chances of winning.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is feeding Trump's ego and his sense of certain victory, which allows him to act less in the best interest of his base, and more in the interest of the donor/elite class. If the Dems were to simply offer someone who stood for something, it would keep him more honest and loyal to that base.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I think the odds are heavily in Trump's favor. The most important advantage he has is a good economy. The flip side is that if that changes, then a bad economy at election time would be a disadvantage, and could be what it would take for him to lose.

The other advantage he has is that the Democrats seem intent on killing their chances. If their nominee is someone who supports this Green New Deal, then that will hurt them in the general election. That said, a skilled politician at that level will manage a flip-flop where they can run to the left to support the GND to get the nomination and then run back to the middle and repudiate it in the general election campaign without much consequence.

I wish there was some hope of beating Trump in the primaries, and running a better Republican in the general election. But I see no way to do that.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Exactly. Which Dem candidate so far is taking an alternate to Hillary's approach in attacking all of these groups to gain positive media coverage and going all in for SJW purposes? None of them. Until they start offering something beyond tearing others down, they are reducing their chances of winning.

I think Biden would be their best hope of not driving away the majority of the electorate if they want to win.

 

[fedupinmo]

Bernie had 230k($5.9 million and change) people donating to his campaign first day after announcing, his supporters are very excited and they are coming in strong for the throne. Combine that with the fact that Trump has shown himself to be a complete judas willing to sell out his base. Plus add in a market crash to the story and he is donezo. But then again, I did not see how an unintelligent, buffon of a man got elected in the first place.

A wise man once said, never understand estimate the power stupid of people in large numbers. So for that reason, I say he still has a path to re-election.

Wouldn't the large number of stupid people be voting for Bernie?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Trump wins by a bigger landslide in the electoral college than the first go around.

That's not saying much, since the first go around wasn't an electoral college landslide at all.

 

[fedupinmo]

I think the Democratic party is miscalculating and moving too far left. Even Bernie went off his more populist message into into identity politics. Identity politics, the green new deal and running on Socialism is a sure fire way for the Democrats to lose a large percentage of their base to Trump. If they had somewhat of a sane candidate it would be an easy win for them.

I think Bloomberg poses the most threat to Trump in a general election but it will be a difficult road for him to win the Democratic primary wackos and a rigged primary system. With his money however he might be able cut right through all that. If not Trump has the middle and moderates in both parties which would give him the win. But it will be close given that the majority under 40 the last election voted for Hillary. If they stay blue, 44+ will not be enough. New blue citizens, illegals voting and voter fraud will also keep Trump's numbers down.

Early adopters of reparations will force the rest to join up or risk losing the black vote, and that should do much to sink their chances with the rest.