Trump Would Fund Super-PACs Aimed at Taking Down Cruz, Kasich

[parocks]

Today's New Poll. CNN

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/07/25/trump.clinton.poll.pdf

Trump winning in both a 2 way race (48-45) and a multi candidate race (44-39).
A week ago, or 9 days ago, Trump was down 7 in the head to head and down 5 in the multi candidate race.

Trump favorable = 43%
Hillary favorable = 39%

Hillary unfavorable = 55%
Trump unfavorable = 52%

Melania and Pence both have more favorable than unfavorable.


Get your Hillary luv out of here.

No, Trump has higher unfavorables (and lower favorables).



That's a nice way of rephrasing the problem to make it sound less bad.

It's not that Trump "doesn't hate" Hillary enough.

It's that he shares her views on all of the important issues facing the country, such that he would govern in the same way.



Again, you're ignoring the most serious problem.

It's not just about donations, it's about a long record of public statements in support of her terrible policies.

Those policies are always and everywhere terrible, whoever mouths them.



....yea, he started criticizing her around the time he started running in the GOP.





Yes we do.



No, but Trump likely does.



It makes no difference who wins.

It does make a difference that ostensible libertarians/conservatives are getting suckered into supporting Trumpllary.

 

[parocks]

i remember 2oo8 + 2o12 and i hope RAND makes the 2o2o
POTUS contest more eventful than i think it is going to be...

Trump is winning now 48-45. The downside to a Trump win is that Rand's going to have to wait a lot longer. You watch Veep?

Those DNC emails are truly awful in the kind of way that so many people can really understand. Top DNC staffers spend most of their time mocking their core base of support in ways that GOP would get skewered for doing.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

He is going after Cruz, he is taking on Kasich, he is taking on neocons, he is going after Obama, he is giving dark speeches and messing up his campaign, he is working with Putin to create DNC email scandals, he is getting a bounce in polls moving ahead of Hillary ... all at the same time. How does he do that? His numbers should be dropping using media arithmetic.


Donald Trump bounces into the lead
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director
Mon July 25, 2016
Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. That latter finding represents a 6-point convention bounce for Trump, which are traditionally measured in two-way matchups.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politi...oll/index.html

 

[parocks]

LOL. He isn't going to govern. That's what Pence is for ...

I really haven't been collecting politican cards with their stats on them, because politicians aren't sports figures that people like, but generally, swine.

I looked up Pence. There's nothing on the resume that's nauseatingly gross. There are positions that he has taken that I don't agree with, but I basically want almost no government, and he wants more than almost no government. I can certainly live with that.

But his resume is a standard issue local politician resume. high school, college, Indiana University Law School. Law Practice. Runs for Congress. Loses. Law Practice again. Radio Talk Show host. Runs for Congress. Wins. Runs for Governor. Wins. Politically, about as close to Mainstream Conservative Republican as you can get. Was with Tea Party. (RINOs didn't do that) Was against the spending and the new laws and was in favor of the wars. His resume doesn't have any Director of the CIA sinisterness on it. Just 100% Normal Conservative Republican.

There's no way of knowing how much input Pence will have.

If I could hand over responsibilities to each, I'd have Trump be in charge of whether we have Middle East wars or not, I'd have Trump be in charge of immigration policy and trade and antiglobalist and whatever he can do about political correctness. And maybe a couple of other issues. I'd have Pence do domestic government spending and Supreme Court and climate change and guns (most domestic policies) Interestingly, between Trump and Pence, you can find both sides on almost any issue. Trump and Pence seem to agree on very little. You can pick positions from Trump and Pence and put together something adequate.

We might be a fringe minority, or factions of a wing of a fringe minority, and because of that, we might rarely find a politician who agrees with us often, but that doesn't mean that all politicans are exactly the same. Pence looks relatively solid to me. Superior to Romney and McCain. Romney had "friends with Netanyahu since the 1970s" on his resume, and McCain's dad was an Admiral. Pence's folks were Irish Catholic Democrats. Regular folks.

At this point, anything not clearly sinister looks great, but that's just because the bar is so very low.

 

[CPUd]

I really haven't been collecting politican cards with their stats on them, because politicians aren't sports figures that people like, but generally, swine.

I looked up Pence. There's nothing on the resume that's nauseatingly gross. There are positions that he has taken that I don't agree with, but I basically want almost no government, and he wants more than almost no government. I can certainly live with that.

But his resume is a standard issue local politician resume. high school, college, Indiana University Law School. Law Practice. Runs for Congress. Loses. Law Practice again. Radio Talk Show host. Runs for Congress. Wins. Runs for Governor. Wins. Politically, about as close to Mainstream Conservative Republican as you can get. Was with Tea Party. (RINOs didn't do that) Was against the spending and the new laws and was in favor of the wars. His resume doesn't have any Director of the CIA sinisterness on it. Just 100% Normal Conservative Republican.

There's no way of knowing how much input Pence will have.

If I could hand over responsibilities to each, I'd have Trump be in charge of whether we have Middle East wars or not, I'd have Trump be in charge of immigration policy and trade and antiglobalist and whatever he can do about political correctness. And maybe a couple of other issues. I'd have Pence do domestic government spending and Supreme Court and climate change and guns (most domestic policies) Interestingly, between Trump and Pence, you can find both sides on almost any issue. Trump and Pence seem to agree on very little. You can pick positions from Trump and Pence and put together something adequate.

We might be a fringe minority, or factions of a wing of a fringe minority, and because of that, we might rarely find a politician who agrees with us often, but that doesn't mean that all politicans are exactly the same. Pence looks relatively solid to me. Superior to Romney and McCain. Romney had "friends with Netanyahu since the 1970s" on his resume, and McCain's dad was an Admiral. Pence's folks were Irish Catholic Democrats. Regular folks.

At this point, anything not clearly sinister looks great, but that's just because the bar is so very low.

Actually there is a way of knowing what Pence's role would be. Let's ask the Trump campaign:

Trump Adviser: Trump Will Outsource Being President to His VP
How Donald Trump Picked His Running Mate

 

[r3volution 3.0]

You know that you're defending Hillary Clinton on a Ron Paul forum, right?

Nope, I'm attacking Trump, which is what ought to be done on RPF, since Trump represents the opposite of everything Ron stands for.

 

[euphemia]

Trump needs to just leave it alone and focus on his campaign.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump needs to just leave it alone and focus on his campaign.

That's what he's doing, his "campaign" being dedicated to the destruction/cooption of whatever remains of the conservative movement.

 

[erowe1]

it boils down to a three~way GOP race in 2o2o? SENATOR RAND PAUL, SENATOR TED CRUZ and ENTREPRENEUR DONALD TRUMP?

I don't see Rand running in 2020 unless some unforeseen development propels him into the limelight.

 

[erowe1]

Trump needs to just leave it alone and focus on his campaign.

Why would you want him to focus on his campaign?

 

[AuH20]

That's what he's doing, his "campaign" being dedicated to the destruction/cooption of whatever remains of the conservative movement.

There is no conservative movement. That's been the big lie. Trump has my blessing to destroy the phony conservative movement so all outsiders have some breathing room for once.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

There is no conservative movement. That's been the big lie. Trump has my blessing to destroy the phony conservative movement so all outsiders have some breathing room for once.

Suppose that the unnamed "other one" that Trump plans to primary is Rand?

What will you say then?

 

[AuH20]

Suppose that the unnamed "other one" that Trump plans to primary is Rand?

What will you say then?

I wouldn't be shocked, Trump is very headstrong when you cross him. IMHO Rand went overboard with his criticism in my estimation. Trump's foreign policy and opposition to special interests was closest to Rand's mission statement.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I wouldn't be shocked, Trump is very headstrong when you cross him. IMHO Rand went overboard with his criticism in my estimation. Trump's foreign policy and opposition to special interests was closest to Rand's mission statement.

So you would approve of Trump funding a PAC to remove Rand Paul from the Senate?

 

[erowe1]

Rand went overboard with his criticism in my estimation

Obviously not, since Trump is now the nominee.

 

[AuH20]

So you would approve of Trump funding a PAC to remove Rand Paul from the Senate?

That would, in your view, be a gain for liberty?

No, it wouldn't. But I'm not involved in this feud. Trump can do what he wants. I wish they were friendly though because we are severely outnumbered globally. The Trumps and Pauls of the world shouldn't be battling each other with a looming catastrophe in the works.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

No, it wouldn't. But I'm not involved in this feud. Trump can do what he wants. I wish they were friendly though because we are severely outnumbered. The Trumps and Pauls of the world shouldn't be battling each other with a looming catastrophe in the works.

It sounds like you would be defend Trump if he chose to do this.

 

[AuH20]

It sounds like you would be defend Trump if he chose to do this.

It wouldn't be productive.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

It wouldn't be productive.

Yea, you'd be defending him, even if only by feigning nonchalance, "o, well, it's unwise, but it's up to Trump..."

Loyalty to Trumpenfuhrer trumps all.

Very sad

 

[AuH20]

Yea, you'd be defending him, even if only by feigning nonchalance, "o, well, it's unwise, but it's up to Trump..."

Loyalty to Trumpenfuhrer trumps all.

Very sad

How am I going to stop Trump from setting up a superpac?