Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops"

U.S. President Donald Trump announced on Twitter on June 7 that Mexico and the United States have reached an agreement over immigration-related issues. As a result, the 5 percent tariffs on imports from Mexico that Trump had planned for June 10 have been indefinitely delayed. The State Department later released details of the agreement. Among other things, Mexico agreed to deploy its national guard throughout the country with a focus on its southern border, and to change certain migration protocols to allow the United States to send asylum seekers to Mexico until their case is heard.

For now, Mexico has avoided the imposition of tariffs by Trump that could have pushed the country into recession. But the threat looms large over Mexico, and it could return if there is still not a reduction in the number of migrants flowing to the United States.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situ...-announces-deal-mexico-suspends-tariff-threat

The U.S. will work to greatly expand a program that returns asylum-seekers who cross the southern border to Mexico while their claims are adjudicated.

It's part of an agreement reached Friday to put off tariffs ordered by President Donald Trump.
The State Department says Mexico will take "unprecedented steps" to "curb irregular migration," including deploying its National Guard along its southern border.

The U.S. says Mexico "is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations."
Trump tweeted Friday night that he would hold off on a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports set to take effect Monday.
The State Department says the two nations will continue their discussion to curb illegal migration to the U.S.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/latest-trump-suspends-proposed-tariffs-004404168.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index
 
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U.S. President Donald Trump announced on Twitter on June 7 that Mexico and the United States have reached an agreement over immigration-related issues. As a result, the 5 percent tariffs on imports from Mexico that Trump had planned for June 10 have been indefinitely delayed. The State Department later released details of the agreement. Among other things, Mexico agreed to deploy its national guard throughout the country with a focus on its southern border, and to change certain migration protocols to allow the United States to send asylum seekers to Mexico until their case is heard.

For now, Mexico has avoided the imposition of tariffs by Trump that could have pushed the country into recession. But the threat looms large over Mexico, and it could return if there is still not a reduction in the number of migrants flowing to the United States.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...-tariff-threat

The U.S. will work to greatly expand a program that returns asylum-seekers who cross the southern border to Mexico while their claims are adjudicated.

It's part of an agreement reached Friday to put off tariffs ordered by President Donald Trump.
The State Department says Mexico will take "unprecedented steps" to "curb irregular migration," including deploying its National Guard along its southern border.

The U.S. says Mexico "is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations."
Trump tweeted Friday night that he would hold off on a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports set to take effect Monday.
The State Department says the two nations will continue their discussion to curb illegal migration to the U.S.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/latest-trump-suspends-proposed-tariffs-004404168.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

The plan under consideration would also require that migrants seek refuge in the first country they arrive in after leaving home, according to the Washington Post. Guatemalan migrants, under the plan, would be required to seek refuge in Mexico while Salvadorans and Venezuelans would be required to remain in Guatemala.
Any migrant that does make it to the U.S. border would be deported to the closest country of refuge.

The Trump administration also plans to tighten asylum rules to raise the standard for “credible fear,” which determines whether a migrant can remain in the U.S. while their claim is being adjudicated.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-offers-deploy-6-000-123734560.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index
 
I don't know why you people keep arguing with these others as if they want the same things. The open border anarchists want the US destroyed, it's the whole.point of their ideology. They know that importing leftists will only make that happen faster. Unless you also want the govt to collapse , there is no point in arguing with them on.ways to keep that from happening.

Then why do they still btch about budgets and debt? Just to btch I suppose.

Also to the open border anarchists, don't forget you cant have open borders AND a welfare state.

We all know this welfare state is not minimizing anytime soon so let's just cut the B.S. about open borders already. We all get the principles now stop crying. No wonder everybody thinks us libertarians are crazy, we just don't let up. To mainstream people, even a soft libertarian looks nuts.
 
Then why do they still btch about budgets and debt? Just to btch I suppose.

Also to the open border anarchists, don't forget you cant have open borders AND a welfare state.

We all know this welfare state is not minimizing anytime soon so let's just cut the B.S. about open borders already. We all get the principles now stop crying. No wonder everybody thinks us libertarians are crazy, we just don't let up. To mainstream people, even a soft libertarian looks nuts.

You can't get rid of the open borders or welfare state unless you go after the congress who are letting them in. The congress don't give a fuck about us. The congress don't give a fuck about us. The congress don't give a fuck about us. The congress don't give a fuck about us..
 
And you have morons on here praising him knocking their knee caps off as if it were a gift. The Cult has to praise the Dear Leader.

It truly is disappointing how far some members have strayed from the libertarian ideals espoused by Ron that were coursing through this forum 10 years ago.

In other news, I'm glad Trump decided to stop this idiocy: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...alks-still-long-way-go-officials-say-n1015076

I wonder how much of this, though, was because of a "deal" reached with Mexico so much as political theatre because he didn't have the votes to actually get away with these kind of tariffs on Mexico.

If there was actually a deal, this doesn't bode well for the future of international politics; it quite aptly demonstrates to the world that "if you're big and strong and act like a bully, you can get your way to varying degrees".

I can level plenty of criticism against the international community, but preferring diplomatic solutions and not escalating things is something that is well appreciated---the US preferring more aggressive stances is not, at all, in line with the libertarian ideal of being friends with the world and not poking our nose in everyone's business.
 
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Defending your home from invasion is not murder nor is it Nazism.

In fact it is your duty as a free citizen.

Liberty means being responsible for your situation.

True.

So when are we gonna take responsibility for the welfare state, bombing the shit out of the ME, creating coups all over Central & South America & taking their resources- not to mention creating the poor & needy- AND the invaders who everyone's so afraid of?

We are responsible for Big Gov so creating more Big Gov to save us ain't gonna work.

Real LIBERTY is the answer.
 
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If there was actually a deal, this doesn't bode well for the future of international politics; it quite aptly demonstrates to the world that "if you're big and strong and act like a bully, you can get your way to varying degrees".

So that hasn't been going on already? Something Ron started trying to draw attention to for years was our bullying around the world.

I think something needs to be done about the people flooding the border. The CIA I mean the Mexican cartels have been controlling the flow of drugs and children across the border for many years. I guess because the Bush/Clinton/Cheney/Obama cartel are being handsomely paid off that makes it okay right?

I remember clearly Ron saying that he would use tariffs to offset income tax when he ran the last time. I guess that would not have been a problem for the purist here.

I don't think one of us here really knows what is going on. We can't believe any thing the news says even our own alt media sources probably is compromised IMO. I listen to most of Ron's reports and it seems to me like he is turning back on a few of his principals in some ways it is confusing to me because of things I hear him saying. He remains against wars and that gives me some hope that I am just processing all this stuff that he is saying about what Trump is doing. I think Clinton/Obama and Pelosi have been doing some dirty dealing with China that does rip off the people in the USA so I hope we can find out what that is about.
 
True.

So when are we gonna take responsibility for the welfare state, bombing the $#@! out of the ME, creating coups all over Central & South America & taking their resources- not to mention creating the poor & needy- AND the invaders who everyone's so afraid of?

We are responsible for Big Gov so creating more Big Gov to save us ain't gonna work.

Real LIBERTY is the answer.

You are right about one thing, Big Gov is not going to fix something that they caused therefore they don't want to fix it because its too profitable for them and they don't work for me and you.
 
Is he still promising to close the border? Or did that threat also pass with no action?

Was this due to the poor jobs report and warnings that tariffs on Mexico would weaken the economy even further?
 
Is he still promising to close the border? Or did that threat also pass with no action?

Was this due to the poor jobs report and warnings that tariffs on Mexico would weaken the economy even further?

There are conflicting reports on this one. Some say it is because of Mexico's concessions on border enforcement. :tears:
 
How well did that work for the anti government people in Iraq? They were armed by our own military and they got their asses handed to them by Russias military. I would hate to go up against our own military, they would destroy us. We don't have a well regulated militia, but if they are going to build a wall are you going to build a militia?

Worlds apart the armed forces of America, vs Russia, different tactics, different ROE, etc..

Yeah, its pointless, just give up before its even happen, great mindset.

Actually that time never existed. Just listen to what the Progressive Theodore Roosevelt, the founder of the first American Progressive Party said about race:



Now, who does that sound like? Early Progressives were obsessed with racial inferiority of all but the "Nordic" races. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41939809?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Progressivism began as a way to erect a massive state to prevent immigration and to suppress black and women workers, not promote them. And it continues to do so today under the guise of the Republican Party.


No, they just understood that humans are subject to the laws of evolution and environment selection, the same as any other being in this world and their effects on culture and politics.

If you value freedom then you have to see it is not for everyone, nothing is, and if it has value it has to protect from those who would destroy it, and no freedom is not a muh feelz based suicide pact.




If you're a Nationalist then you already are a member of the Leftist Horde in power working to destroy the liberty of the individual.

Hey, do you know what you call an unpaid troll?

An idiot.

At least SS gets paid for his lies.

....No such thing as a leftist nationalist, as leftists are hostile to the nation state, its people, their culture and their right to preserve. You are just using words you dont know the meaning of and think you are smarter then you really are, your not.





Oh, I don't have to refute that you're a self-proclaimed Nationalist who wants to used armed violence to murder nationalities you see as being unapproved by the centralized state. You've admitted as much yourself, as shown above. Therefore, I don't have to call you a Fascist or a Nazi. You've outed yourself as one.

You're just another violent, Leftist bootlicker living in mommy's basement blaming the "inferior" races for the fact that he has never accomplished anything in his life begging the Nanny State to save him from his own mediocrity.

So in order words you have nothing to back up your lies, fitting.

The state has a rightful place and a list of obligation, namely the defense of the nation, if that requires the use of force against others so be it.

'Muh Facist!!!! Muh Nazi", yeah, just a leftist tactic from a leftist like you.


But hey, ignore the impact of 3rd world hordes voting away your rights, I am share your mental gymnastics will some how blame those working to prevent it.

Defending your home from invasion is not murder nor is it Nazism.

In fact it is your duty as a free citizen.

Liberty means being responsible for your situation.


But didnt you know, if you stop people who want to steal from or harm you from being able to steal from and harm you, some how that is an infringement on their "right" to steal from and harm from us, because "muh feelz"/S


I don't know why you people keep arguing with these others as if they want the same things. The open border anarchists want the US destroyed, it's the whole.point of their ideology. They know that importing leftists will only make that happen faster. Unless you also want the govt to collapse , there is no point in arguing with them on.ways to keep that from happening.




I remember when the admins used to ban people who make Ron Paul look bad by constantly posting that he is wrong, tell regulars on RPF to leave the forums and make their own forums, advocate for racist policies like eugenics


Thought you guys valued debate and freedom of speech?
If a person is wrong, they are wrong, does not matter their title,, rank, wealth, etc
Whats wrong,"muh free market" bit is easy to dish out but cant take it?

And eugenics is not "racist" anymore then then evolution is. Stop believe the leftist/egalitarian premises of "we are all equal in ability" (we are not) "The only reason we have do not have equal results is become of some sort of "oppression"" (the reason we dont is because equality is bullshit), and ""Racism"" is the worse "crime" a person can commit or be guilty".

that is crap all the way around and agreeing with such premises is why the left has been able to do as much damage as it has been able to.

When you refuse to give the left the moral high group the lose.
 
Worlds apart the armed forces of America, vs Russia, different tactics, different ROE, etc..

Yeah, its pointless, just give up before its even happen, great mindset.




No, they just understood that humans are subject to the laws of evolution and environment selection, the same as any other being in this world and their effects on culture and politics.

If you value freedom then you have to see it is not for everyone, nothing is, and if it has value it has to protect from those who would destroy it, and no freedom is not a muh feelz based suicide pact.






....No such thing as a leftist nationalist, as leftists are hostile to the nation state, its people, their culture and their right to preserve. You are just using words you dont know the meaning of and think you are smarter then you really are, your not.







So in order words you have nothing to back up your lies, fitting.

The state has a rightful place and a list of obligation, namely the defense of the nation, if that requires the use of force against others so be it.

'Muh Facist!!!! Muh Nazi", yeah, just a leftist tactic from a leftist like you.


But hey, ignore the impact of 3rd world hordes voting away your rights, I am share your mental gymnastics will some how blame those working to prevent it.




But didnt you know, if you stop people who want to steal from or harm you from being able to steal from and harm you, some how that is an infringement on their "right" to steal from and harm from us, because "muh feelz"/S










Thought you guys valued debate and freedom of speech?
If a person is wrong, they are wrong, does not matter their title,, rank, wealth, etc
Whats wrong,"muh free market" bit is easy to dish out but cant take it?

And eugenics is not "racist" anymore then then evolution is. Stop believe the leftist/egalitarian premises of "we are all equal in ability" (we are not) "The only reason we have do not have equal results is become of some sort of "oppression"" (the reason we dont is because equality is bull$#@!), and ""Racism"" is the worse "crime" a person can commit or be guilty".

that is crap all the way around and agreeing with such premises is why the left has been able to do as much damage as it has been able to.

When you refuse to give the left the moral high group the lose.

When you give up all your principles and ideas you become them that's what they are. That's why they want to silence us, because we have ideas and they don't. It exposes their lack of intellectual integrity.
 
Thought you guys valued debate and freedom of speech?
If a person is wrong, they are wrong, does not matter their title,, rank, wealth, etc
Whats wrong,"muh free market" bit is easy to dish out but cant take it?

Huh? The free market does not require participation. I just think it is pointless to argue about process; when end goals are completely different. But by all means, feel free to carry on.
 
Defending your home from invasion is not murder nor is it Nazism.

In fact it is your duty as a free citizen.

Liberty means being responsible for your situation.

Are people now so stupid to think "collectivism" or what ever you what to call it, is not neccsarry to protect your property?

OK, stand out as an individual against the mob and try to assert your property rights. Good luck with that. No, as hard as it is for the anarchist here to understand, people form groups. That will manifests itself in what we call governments.

But hey, go ahead and think you are the principled one standing alone against the group of libertarians. That very group that wants to leave you alone. It is tactics versus strategics. Study that.

We are being taxed to support our demise.

One need to belong to a group effort to stop another group that wants to continue and expand that. If you can't see that, well just follow the stupid argument that you are a human rights warrior and no one should be restricted from coming here. Do you lock your doors? Who do rely on when the mob comes to rob you?

Your neighbors?

Well, that is a group standing together, for a common defense. OMG, my HOA says you can't come onto my neighborhood and shit on my lawn. I will have to pay for that. But wait, who am I to say a neighboring community member can't freely travel to my neighborhood and shit on my lawn? Why should I be able to hire a person to prevent that? Why should I be able to build a barrier so they don't come over here and I have to pick up the taps for their expenses?

...
 
When you give up all your principles and ideas you become them that's what they are. That's why they want to silence us, because we have ideas and they don't. It exposes their lack of intellectual integrity.

We went over this, goals are what matter, not how you get them achieved.
 
For example - you don't criticize POTUS while he is on a foreign trip.

I guess I wasn't thikning of it in context but this is a win for Trump considering the Mexican president claimed they would not bow down and they ended up bowing down.
 
Is he still promising to close the border? Or did that threat also pass with no action?

Was this due to the poor jobs report and warnings that tariffs on Mexico would weaken the economy even further?

This is easy, just visit salon.com for your answers so you can repeat them here.

Thx
 
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