Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops"

True.

So when are we gonna take responsibility for the welfare state, bombing the $#@! out of the ME, creating coups all over Central & South America & taking their resources- not to mention creating the poor & needy- AND the invaders who everyone's so afraid of?

We are responsible for Big Gov so creating more Big Gov to save us ain't gonna work.

Real LIBERTY is the answer.
We are trying to stop the welfare state and the foreign intervention, we will never do that if the biggest government party is allowed to import unlimited voters.
It isn't creating more big government to make the government do one of the basic jobs even the smallest government is supposed to do.
 
I guess I wasn't thikning of it in context but this is a win for Trump considering the Mexican president claimed they would not bow down and they ended up bowing down.

Which makes Dems look even more ridiculous. :tears:
 
We are trying to stop the welfare state and the foreign intervention, we will never do that if the biggest government party is allowed to import unlimited voters.
It isn't creating more big government to make the government do one of the basic jobs even the smallest government is supposed to do.

I would prefer a more holistic approach. :tears:
 
It truly is disappointing how far some members have strayed from the libertarian ideals espoused by Ron that were coursing through this forum 10 years ago.

In other news, I'm glad Trump decided to stop this idiocy: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...alks-still-long-way-go-officials-say-n1015076

I wonder how much of this, though, was because of a "deal" reached with Mexico so much as political theatre because he didn't have the votes to actually get away with these kind of tariffs on Mexico.

If there was actually a deal, this doesn't bode well for the future of international politics; it quite aptly demonstrates to the world that "if you're big and strong and act like a bully, you can get your way to varying degrees".

I can level plenty of criticism against the international community, but preferring diplomatic solutions and not escalating things is something that is well appreciated---the US preferring more aggressive stances is not, at all, in line with the libertarian ideal of being friends with the world and not poking our nose in everyone's business.
The world is a jungle and it's long past time our leaders used our power to protect the rights of Americans.
 
Seems some of the immigrants are coming from Africa.

https://news.yahoo.com/dramatic-rise-migrants-africa-u-022759709.html

U.S. Customs and Border Protection says a “dramatic rise” in the number of African migrants crossing the U.S. border is contributing to a “humanitarian crisis,” according to the BBC.

More than 500 migrants from countries such as Cameroon, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Angola have arrived at the Del Rio border station in Texas since May 30, including a group of 116 people, says the BBC.

Customs officials say the influx of migrants is overwhelming. “When we have 4,000 people in custody, we consider it high,” Customs and Border Patrol’s commissioner John Sanders told a press conference, according to the BBC. “If there’s 6,000 people in custody, we considered it a crisis. Right now, we have nearly 19,000 people in custody. So it’s just off the charts.”
 
Seems some of the immigrants are coming from Africa.

https://news.yahoo.com/dramatic-rise-migrants-africa-u-022759709.html

U.S. Customs and Border Protection says a “dramatic rise” in the number of African migrants crossing the U.S. border is contributing to a “humanitarian crisis,” according to the BBC.

More than 500 migrants from countries such as Cameroon, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Angola have arrived at the Del Rio border station in Texas since May 30, including a group of 116 people, says the BBC.

Customs officials say the influx of migrants is overwhelming. “When we have 4,000 people in custody, we consider it high,” Customs and Border Patrol’s commissioner John Sanders told a press conference, according to the BBC. “If there’s 6,000 people in custody, we considered it a crisis. Right now, we have nearly 19,000 people in custody. So it’s just off the charts.”

From areas near the Ebola outbreak that is getting out of control.
 
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.

 
[h=2]President Donald Trump has announced an immigration reform deal with the Mexican government which likely will allow border officials to end the catch-and-release of Central American migrants.[/h] Ending catch-and-release is a huge win for Americans and Trump because it means border officials now have a legal alternative to the catch-and-release rules which allow migrants to legally enter the United States if they bring children and claim asylum.
Those catch-and-release rules set by Congress and the courts also allow the migrants to get work permits before their asylum court hearings, which are now backlogged for two or more years.
Instead of catch-and-release, the migrants can be returned to Mexico until their asylum claims can be heard by a judge.


Mexico’s agreement to offer jobs and healthcare to the migrants will weaken lawsuits by pro-migration U.S. groups that oppose the deal.

Trump and his deputies wanted Mexico to declare itself a safe third country because that would give U.S. border officials the permanent legal authority to reject migrants who cross through Mexico. But the Mexican government’s agreement to host the migrants before their U.S. court hearings provide similar legal authority to U.S. border agencies,
The deal means that border agencies will not have to release migrants into the United States prior to their asylum hearings.
The end of catch-and-release will likely wreck the cartels’ labor-trafficking business, which depends on migrants getting U.S. jobs to repay their smuggling debts. Few poor people in Honduras, El Salvador, or Guatemala will go into debt with the cartels, or mortgage their farms and homes to the cartels, once they know they will be forced to remain in Mexico prior to their asylum hearings.
The reduction of migration will also help stabilize the Central Americans countries, which is needed before foreign investors build farms or factories in those nations.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ikely-ends-catch-and-release-defunds-cartels/
 
[h=2]......
Trump and his deputies wanted Mexico to declare itself a safe third country because that would give U.S. border officials the permanent legal authority to reject migrants who cross through Mexico. But the Mexican government’s agreement to host the migrants before their U.S. court hearings provide similar legal authority to U.S. border agencies,
The deal means that border agencies will not have to release migrants into the United States prior to their asylum hearings.
More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ikely-ends-catch-and-release-defunds-cartels/

Don't cha just :heart: how the empire works? Ignore international law when you violate it. Use it when you need it. **b-dum tish**
 
Don't cha just :heart: how the empire works? Ignore international law when you violate it. Use it when you need it. **b-dum tish**
As long as those actions defend the rights of Americans I don't mind, it's only when they harm America that I am upset.

"International Law" is almost always globalist garbage meant to destroy sovereignty and violate the rights of individuals.
 
As long as those actions defend the rights of Americans I don't mind, it's only when they harm America that I am upset.

"International Law" is almost always globalist garbage meant to destroy sovereignty and violate the rights of individuals.

This, America First America Always. If that means "International Law" gets broken, so be it. If they have a problem, we can settle it with force.
 
international law is unamerican

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world": it was George Washington's Farewell Address to us. The inaugural pledge of Thomas Jefferson was no less clear: "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none."
 
From areas near the Ebola outbreak that is getting out of control.
Seems like that entire area would be under quarantine. They shouldn't be letting anybody leave that area, let alone the country, while that outbreak is in progress.
 
A graffiti mural welcomes Central Americans who cross the Suchiate River from Guatemala to Mexico: a roaring jaguar protecting a group of trekking migrants, beneath the words: "May nothing on Earth stop us."But the real-life migrants being deported across the border in the other direction are a testament to the fact that, under growing pressure from US President Donald Trump, Mexico is intensifying its efforts to do just that.
Mexico's southern border is 1,138 kilometers (707 miles) of porous, largely unpoliced territory, much of it stretching through the jungle.
It is not very hard to cross for the undocumented Central Americans who have been heading toward the United States in a growing exodus in recent months.
That has provoked the wrath of Trump, who is using the threat of tariffs to force the Mexican government to do more to stop them.
The strategy appears to be working: Mexico has increased migrant detentions, dramatically restricted visas, stepped up military and police patrols in the border region, and agreed Thursday to deploy 6,000 members of its newly created National Guard to reinforce the border.
The crackdown has made reaching the United States an increasingly impossible dream for migrants like Jose Mario, a 53-year-old Honduran man who has just crossed legally into Mexico -- with a visa that restricts his movement to the south of the country, far from the US border.
"We decided we'd rather come legally," he tells AFP on the bridge that spans the river to the Mexican town of Ciudad Hidalgo, in the southern state of Chiapas.
"The migrants who ford the river get caught and deported."
As if to punctuate his sentence, three buses pull up to take a group of migrants back where they came from.
Their expressionless faces -- most of them very young -- look out from behind the buses' tinted windows.
Jose Mario came in a group of around 100 migrants who arrived early Thursday.
He is waiting on the bridge with friends who also plan to apply for a temporary "regional visitor visa," which will restrict their movement to the southern states -- one of the government's latest initiatives to keep migrants away from the US.


Some 300,000 migrants have entered Mexico so far this year, according to the government.
Under pressure from Trump, the Mexican authorities have detained 51,000 of them -- a 17-percent increase from the same period last year.
"Trump is right," a Mexican border officer told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.
"Mexico lets them in, gives them benefits. It shouldn't."
Mexico's leftist President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador took office in December promising to welcome migrants and protect their rights.
But as Trump lashed out, the leader known as "AMLO" changed tack.
In recent weeks, the police presence in southern Mexico has surged. The authorities have staged unprecedented raids to round up undocumented migrants, and put up highway checkpoints.
On Wednesday, they detained hundreds of migrants who had entered Mexico in a caravan.
Migrant detention centers are meanwhile saturated. They have been the scene of riots and breakouts several times in recent weeks.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/hopes-dim-c-american-migrants-mexicos-southern-border-054230981.html
 
We are trying to stop the welfare state and the foreign intervention, we will never do that if the biggest government party is allowed to import unlimited voters.
It isn't creating more big government to make the government do one of the basic jobs even the smallest government is supposed to do.

But didnt you know [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION], if you keep out people who will vote to expend the state, some how the lesser action of keeping them out will be the same as allowing them into the nation and voting away our rights.
 
But didnt you know @Swordsmyth, if you keep out people who will vote to expend the state, some how the lesser action of keeping them out will be the same as allowing them into the nation and voting away our rights.
Didn't you know? they are more liberty oriented than we are, it is our fault their countries are so much more communist and authoritarian than the US.
 
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