Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops"

[Ender]

No, anyone who is against border walls is for open borders borders by default, stop lying you nation wreaker.

And yet he voted FOR building a wall. Go be a shill somewhere else, I hear Mexico is an Ancap paradise.

LOL- there are 3 US million ex-pats in Mexico right now, loving it.

Also Mexico divorce rates are much lower than the US while their Christian percentage is higher- but we can't have that "invading" our country, now can we?

And Ron Paul is totally against a wall- get rid of entitlements, have an easy process to cross the border, & a reasonable path to citizenship is his stance- and he is correct.

 

[nikcers]

LOL- there are 3 US million ex-pats in Mexico right now, loving it.

Also Mexico divorce rates are much lower than the US while their Christian percentage is higher- but we can't have that "invading" our country, now can we?

And Ron Paul is totally against a wall- get rid of entitlements, have an easy process to cross the border, & a reasonable path to citizenship is his stance- and he is correct.

Their divorce rates are only lower because up until 10 years ago it was hard to get a divorce in Mexico, the women had no say in the matter. They passed a law that says men can be jailed if they treat their wife badly, you can guess why that is a law, and they made it easier to get a divorce and guess what divorces are going up. So if you want to do the same in America, just put up a bunch of legal hurdles for women not to be able to get a divorce and create a law that says men can treat their wife like property.

 

[Ender]

Their divorce rates are only lower because up until 10 years ago it was hard to get a divorce in Mexico, the women had no say in the matter. They passed a law that says men can be jailed if they treat their wife badly, you can guess why that is a law, and they made it easier to get a divorce and guess what divorces are going up. So if you want to do the same in America, just put up a bunch of legal hurdles for women not to be able to get a divorce and create a law that says men can treat their wife like property.

Riiiight.

I have friends in Mexico that LOVE it, so believe what you want.

BTW the divorce ratings were from last year.

 

[nikcers]

Riiiight.

I have friends in Mexico that LOVE it, so believe what you want.

BTW the divorce ratings were from last year.

Look at the trend since they changed the law. Why do you think they changed the law? People were complaining it was taking years and they were being psychologically abused by their husband during the process and coerced into staying with them.

 

[Ender]

Look at the trend since they changed the law. Why do you think they changed the law? People were complaining it was taking years and they were being psychologically abused by their husband during the process and coerced into staying with them.

The US is in the top 10 of divorce rates in the world; Mexico is in the bottom 10.
https://www.unifiedlawyers.com.au/blog/global-divorce-rates-statistics/

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

More direct opposition to Ron Paul from the shylls, right here on RPF, fully sanctioned by the site owners and mods.

So you follow Ron Paul when he is wrong, but call others shills/fools?

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Ron Paul is against the wall, therefore he is for open borders.

Yes, Ron did vote for a bill which funded a wall but he said he was against that part of the bill- that he voted for it due to its anti-amnesty provisions.

And yet his actions helped bring about the wall, (until they cut funding fr it because we have a uni-party hostile to Americas)

LOL- there are 3 US million ex-pats in Mexico right now, loving it.

Also Mexico divorce rates are much lower than the US while their Christian percentage is higher- but we can't have that "invading" our country, now can we?

And Ron Paul is totally against a wall- get rid of entitlements, have an easy process to cross the border, & a reasonable path to citizenship is his stance- and he is correct.

No, we cant, because they are not us, not of our people, hostile to our culture, and vote to recreate the same marxist hellscape they came from.

"Oh just great rid of welfare".....Ok, how? How are you going to get enough people to vote for it? How are you going to prevent people from voting o rebuild the welfare state?

Why should give the means for people who are going to vote against us to vote against us?



If they value freedom so much why is it Mexico/Latin America largely a marxist shithole? Please do answer

 

[nikcers]

The US is in the top 10 of divorce rates in the world; Mexico is in the bottom 10.
https://www.unifiedlawyers.com.au/blog/global-divorce-rates-statistics/

It's trending upward after they made it easier to divorce. Here is the very first google result, I am not cherry picking.

Feb 14, 2019 · 3 out of 10 marriages in Mexico end in divorce ... In recent years, Mexicans seem to have lost faith in marriage. ..

representing a 48.3% increase in just five years.

Whoa i wonder what changed

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/world/americas/22divorce.html
express no fault divorce enacted into law

but wait there is more, they can put men in jail for not treating their wife right, I dunno why that would have to be a law.

Men who phone their wives every half hour to check up on them, constantly suspect them of infidelity or try to control the way they dress are committing the crime of jealousy, special prosecutor Alicia Elena Perez Duarte told Excelsior newspaper.

Those who stop talking to their wives, avoid sex or try to convince suspicious spouses they are “crazy” even if they are caught red-handed having an affair, are guilty of indifference, she said.

Men found guilty of jealousy or indifference could face up to five years in prison

 

[Sammy]

More direct opposition to Ron Paul from the shylls, right here on RPF, fully sanctioned by the site owners and mods.

I agree with Ron Paul on 98%...I support a wall, Ron Paul opposes the wall...That's okay...

 

[nikcers]

I agree with Ron Paul on 98%...I support a wall, Ron Paul opposes the wall...That's okay...

Yeah I just hope Ron Paul isn't right and the wall is designed to keep us in. Ron Paul has been right before when everyone else said he is wrong.

 

[PAF]

I agree with Ron Paul on 98%...I support a wall, Ron Paul opposes the wall...That's okay...

No, it is actually not ok. You are, however, entitled to your opinion.

It is not ok, because a wall violates liberty and freedom and is not fiscally responsible. It creates a need for enforcement, thus more government employees, restricts ones right to travel freely, and creates a falsehood that all free men must register (document) with governments.

The only solution is to end incentives. Whether that happens, or never, it does not negate the negative ramifications of a full blown police state, which a Wall will in fact do.

If people come here with no incentives/welfare, they will simply be required to work in order to survive, else they will not come here, or have to move elsewhere.

 

[Swordsmyth]

More direct opposition to Ron Paul from the shylls, right here on RPF, fully sanctioned by the site owners and mods.

Many people here disagree with Ron on much more fundamental points.
If only people who agreed with Ron on 100% of everything were allowed here only Ron would be allowed here.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah I just hope Ron Paul isn't right and the wall is designed to keep us in. Ron Paul has been right before when everyone else said he is wrong.

There won't be any better place to run.
If the wall is designed to keep us in then they will find that it traps them here with us.

 

[Swordsmyth]

No, it is actually not ok. You are, however, entitled to your opinion.

It is not ok, because a wall violates liberty and freedom and is not fiscally responsible. It creates a need for enforcement, thus more government employees, restricts ones right to travel freely, and creates a falsehood that all free men must register (document) with governments.

The only solution is to end incentives. Whether that happens, or never, it does not negate the negative ramifications of a full blown police state, which a Wall will in fact do.

If people come here with no incentives/welfare, they will simply be required to work in order to survive, else they will not come here, or have to move elsewhere.

A wall will not create a police state and people came here when we didn't have government incentives and voted for them, that will happen again without immigration limits and secured borders.

 

[Swordsmyth]

LOL- there are 3 US million ex-pats in Mexico right now, loving it.

A bunch of leftists for the most part.

Also Mexico divorce rates are much lower than the US while their Christian percentage is higher- but we can't have that "invading" our country, now can we?

That's not the problem, the communism is.

And Ron Paul is totally against a wall- get rid of entitlements, have an easy process to cross the border, & a reasonable path to citizenship is his stance- and he is correct.

No, he is wrong, that will turn us into a communist country with ever bigger entitlements.

 

[Dr.3D]

Many people here disagree with Ron on much more fundamental points.
If only people who agreed with Ron on 100% of everything were allowed here only Ron would be allowed here.

Oh come on, you have to agree with Ron, 100% in order to be a member here.

That or not post much in these forums.

And people wonder why some folks never post.


Oh and don't forget to be a libertarian.... if you are not pure enough to be called a libertarian, you probably don't belong here either.

Even Jesus was eating with sinners and tax collectors. Who in these forums can claim to be perfect?
Those who need help with their political outlook should be free to come here and learn. Those who are healthy in their political outlook don't even need to come here.

 

[PAF]

A wall will not create a police state and people came here when we didn't have government incentives and voted for them, that will happen again without immigration limits and secured borders.

Right on queue. But not right on.

 

[specsaregood]

Well, Trump says the Tariffs are off; because he got what he wanted from mexico.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Well, Trump says the Tariffs are off; because he got what he wanted from mexico.

U.S. President Donald Trump announced on Twitter on June 7 that Mexico and the United States have reached an agreement over immigration-related issues. As a result, the 5 percent tariffs on imports from Mexico that Trump had planned for June 10 have been indefinitely delayed. The State Department later released details of the agreement. Among other things, Mexico agreed to deploy its national guard throughout the country with a focus on its southern border, and to change certain migration protocols to allow the United States to send asylum seekers to Mexico until their case is heard.

For now, Mexico has avoided the imposition of tariffs by Trump that could have pushed the country into recession. But the threat looms large over Mexico, and it could return if there is still not a reduction in the number of migrants flowing to the United States.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situ...-announces-deal-mexico-suspends-tariff-threat

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Yeah I just hope Ron Paul isn't right and the wall is designed to keep us in. Ron Paul has been right before when everyone else said he is wrong.

If they are, we are still armed. And then We are not locked in here with them, they are locked in here with US...