Trump: "Ron Paul is a joke"

[RJB]

Trump was attacking Ron's message as much as he was attacking his polling.

Supporters of Ron's message, even if they thought his strategy was unlikely to succeed, would not say such things about him, would they?

Yeah, I seemed to have missed the speech that Ron Paul gave where he wished Iran would get nukes to wipe out Israel.

 

[Dianne]

It's funny that this pisses people here off, and yet we have bent down to the precise philosophy that Trump was saying. We have given up the message in order to win.

So everyone who chastises others for dissent concerning Rand because "we have to win" needs to realize that they have become the Donald and are siding with all those media shills that laughed at Ron.

Shame on those in the R3volution who have done this.

Good point. It's time for reflection.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

The founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute is backing Trump even though he said those meen dings about Ron Paul. Note that Lew probably has very little in common with the Donald politically, but clearly sees the big picture.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/why-donald-trump-matters/

Trumpitis is clearly an infectious mental disease that destroys reason and integrity first.

 

[wizardwatson]

Trump was attacking Ron's message as much as he was attacking his polling.

Supporters of Ron's message, even if they thought his strategy was unlikely to succeed, would not say such things about him, would they?

Part of Ron's message was his strategy.

In fact it was the most important point, and should never be sacrificed for strategy.

You are a newbie so I guess you don't know that. Let me educate you.



Look at that, oh my! Is that my video? Is that my SUV in the background?

Is that Ron talking about how Republicans/Democrats/Independents were all energized?

Is that Ron talking about how it's a young people movement?

Is that Ron talking about the remnant?

I think it is.

What happenened to that? Where did that go?

I did not change. But the nature of the movement changed. Why?

These are the questions I have.


Don't try to school me, newbie.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It's funny that this pisses people here off, and yet we have bent down to the precise philosophy that Trump was saying. We have given up the message in order to win.

So everyone who chastises others for dissent concerning Rand because "we have to win" needs to realize that they have become the Donald and are siding with all those media shills that laughed at Ron.

Shame on those in the R3volution who have done this.

Bullshit. Rand's voting record is stellar. His principles are rock solid. Y'all are just making crap to justify your man crush on the Donald.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Lew's been persona non grata for a long time, as far as I'm concerned.

Telling people not to vote, continually attacking Rand, etc.

Fuck Lew and anyone who looks like Lew.

I've never liked Rockwell. I'm still convinced that he's the guy who wrote the 'racist newsletters' and let Ron Paul take the fall for it. The coward.

 

[wizardwatson]

Bullshit. Rand's voting record is stellar. His principles are rock solid. Y'all are just making crap to justify your man crush on the Donald.

Et tu Brute'?

Look at the post above you, jarhead.

I'm not saying anything about Rand except that people who used the line "we want to win don't we" betrayed a core principle of the R3volution.

 

[timosman]

Bullshit. Rand's voting record is stellar. His principles are rock solid. Y'all are just making crap to justify your man crush on the Donald.

The main concern is not having balls. He might have a stellar record, but this is not what wins elections.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Part of Ron's message was his strategy.

In fact it was the most important point, and should never be sacrificed for strategy.

I guess we have different ideas of what the movement is about.

To me, it's about actually shrinking government.

I don't see honesty in politics as an end in itself.

You are a newbie so I guess you don't know that.

I supported Ron in 2008 and 2012, I'm only new (relatively) to RPF.

Let me educate you.

I'm certain that would be impossible.

 

[wizardwatson]

The main concern is not having balls. He might have a stellar record, but this is not what wins elections.

If your message and communication is fractured you don't have a movement and you aren't speaking to the remnant.

Do any of you even know what the remnant is!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

 

[GunnyFreedom]

The main concern is not having balls. He might have a stellar record, but this is not what wins elections.

What's the point of winning elections when you elect Team Red's version of Obama?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

If your message and communication is fractured you don't have a movement and you aren't speaking to the remnant.

Do any of you even know what the remnant is!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

The remnant doesn't include anybody who backs Trump.

 

[wizardwatson]

I guess we have different ideas of what the movement is about.

To me, it's about actually shrinking government.

I don't see honesty in politics as an end in itself.

Did you figure that out all by yourself?

 

[timosman]

What's the point of winning elections when you elect Team Red's version of Obama?

That's not what I was talking about. The "movement" could use a better leader. We did not have many options, did we ?

 

[AuH20]

Bullshit. Rand's voting record is stellar. His principles are rock solid. Y'all are just making crap to justify your man crush on the Donald.

Ummm..............Not exactly. Rand is the reason why Trump was able to capitalize. He sold out partially.

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2015/04...ays-rand-paul-defeats-the-washington-machine/


And then this..............Jesus Christ

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/11...s-our-secret-weapon-in-beating-the-tea-party/


And this........

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/12...rd-feelings-over-thad-cochran-election-fraud/


And don't forget this..........

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2015/07/24/gay-rand-paul-wont-back-up-ted-cruz-on-mitch-mcconnell-lie/


Even the great braggart Trump didn't stoop this low.

 

[Wilf]

That's not what I was talking about. The "movement" could use a better leader. We did not have many options, did we ?

Well take a look for yourself, who is the best canadiate that can lead this movement

 

[RJB]

He’s a joke. Here’s a man that wants — does he care if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel? He doesn’t care. ‘Let them do whatever they want. They can make their own nuclear weapons.’ It’s ridiculous. - The Donald

Aside from calling Ron Paul a joke and giving a strawman for his position. This is the standard neocon charge against Ron Paul. Those who use this strawmen are generally for war, not just against Iran, but against anyone. That is what concerns me the most. I'd take Rand Paul or even Kucinich or Sanders with a consistent position against these wars over Trump.

 

[wizardwatson]

The remnant doesn't include anybody who backs Trump.

The remnant includes anyone who stands up for liberty and truth. If Trump repented he could be part of it as well.

Stop the group think. It's poisoned this forum. You were railing against that ideology just a few months ago over the riots.

 

[wizardwatson]

Well take a look for yourself, who is the best canadiate that can lead this movement

The lie that's been told is that a "candidate" has to lead the movement. Anyone can be a leader. All you have to do is speak up so others can hear you.

 

[Wilf]

The lie that's been told is that a "candidate" has to lead the movement. Anyone can be a leader. All you have to do is speak up so others can hear you.

Then why haven't you attempted to become the leader.