Trump Places DC Police Under FEDERAL CONTROL, Deploys National Guard

[TheTexan]

We should probably create another branch of military to do this

That way we can allocate bigger budgets to it

Like what we did with the space force

 

[Occam's Banana]

That makes the error worse, not better.

I wasn't taking any position on how bad the error was.

I was just pointing out that homicides and murders are related but separate things.

The claim was that there were 274 homicides in 2023, but your reply to that claim referenced 274 murders.

If there were 274 homicides in 2023, then whatever the number of murders in 2023 was, it was fewer than 274.

So if there were 187 murders in 2024, and we know that the number of murders in 2023 was fewer than 274 (without knowing how many fewer), then that had to be a reduction of less than 32 percent. In fact, it might have been a very small reduction indeed, maybe even no reduction at all (if 187 of the 224 homicides in 2023 were murders).

It's even worse than that.

If, as claimed, "[t]he number of murders declined by more than half in 2024 to 187", then it follows that there must have been at least 375 murders in 2023 (because 187 is exactly half of 374).

But it was also claimed that "[t]here were [only] 274 homicides in Washington in 2023". This cannot be reconciled at all with there having been 374 murders that year, since by definition every murder is also a homicide.

 

[oyarde]

Considering I am dountful of many legally defined justifiable omicides in DC Im just going to consider all as murder

 

[nikcers]

Considering I am dountful of many legally defined justifiable omicides in DC Im just going to consider all as murder

You should just shut up and be grateful the government doesnt let criminals murder even more people.

 

[oyarde]

We should probably create another branch of military to do this

That way we can allocate bigger budgets to it

Like what we did with the space force

ICE new budget 27.7 billion largest ever of any fed enforcement but ougt to be busy so could just eliminate BATFE and FBI and use some leftovers from it for yer new dc police agency .

 

[Anti Globalist]

Clearly Trump is preparing us for the eventual arrests of most of our politicians.

/endsarcasm.

 

[69360]

He's within his rights to do so in DC. I know there is a court case today in California challenging this. I don't know if it was decided yet. There are so many exceptions to posse comitatus that Trump may get his way.

FWIW the mayor of DC actually is saying more cops on the street may help.

I don't know how I feel about it, wait and see I guess.

 

[spudea]

Tyranny is living in fear that you can't walk down the street without being killed, that puts a cage on your mind where you can't even hope to dream of liberty and safety, and society completely succumbs to chaos. That is what Democrats want, complete hopelessness and despair for every city in America. There comes a point where people stop reporting crimes and psychotic demons can point to a graph and declare "see crime is down!" And the criminals have won.

 

[nikcers]

He's within his rights to do so in DC. I know there is a court case today in California challenging this. I don't know if it was decided yet. There are so many exceptions to posse comitatus that Trump may get his way.

FWIW the mayor of DC actually is saying more cops on the street may help.

I don't know how I feel about it, wait and see I guess.

A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

The modern doctrine of anti law enforcement revolves around the magical thinking of preventing crime being more cost effective.

Essentially creating an entire grifting industry that removes the monetary incentives to solve the problem of crime because "the experts" can redefine the root cause of crime and move the goal posts and spend unlimited amounts of money on preventing crime that wouldnt even happen if there were severe consequences for crime which disincentivizes it.

Some of them wanted to redefine the root cause of all crime as mental health problems and essentially get rid of law enforcement all together.

These experts are crooked and they knew exactly what they were doing. Abraham Lincoln gave a speech hundreds of years ago warning that this would happen.

Abraham Lincoln's Lyceum Address

www.abrahamlincolnonline.org

 

[TheTexan]

Essentially creating an entire grifting industry that removes the monetary incentives to solve the problem of crime because "the experts" can redefine the root cause of crime and move the goal posts and spend unlimited amounts of money on preventing crime that wouldnt even happen if there were severe consequences for crime which disincentivizes it.

Solving crime is easy but noone wants to do it.

Take all the money being spent on prisons and use it to brand violent criminals with tattoos, and deport them, to any country. If other countries don't like it, tough shit, try and stop us.

If a branded criminal returns without authorization, put a bullet in their head and be done with it.

1% of the population is responsible for 63% of violent crime convictions.

Deport that 1% and watch violent crime disappear overnight.

The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions - PMC

Population-based studies on violent crime and background factors may provide an understanding of the relationships between susceptibility factors and crime. We aimed to determine the distribution of violent crime convictions in the Swedish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[nikcers]

Solving crime is easy but noone wants to do it.

Take all the money being spent on prisons and use it to brand violent criminals with tattoos, and deport them, to any country. If other countries don't like it, tough shit, try and stop us.

If a branded criminal returns without authorization, put a bullet in their head and be done with it.

1% of the population is responsible for 63% of violent crime convictions.

Deport that 1% and watch violent crime disappear overnight.

The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions - PMC

Population-based studies on violent crime and background factors may provide an understanding of the relationships between susceptibility factors and crime. We aimed to determine the distribution of violent crime convictions in the Swedish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There's a word for that and that of course does work. We have known what works for hundreds of years.

Other countries have been doing it to us for a long time.

Defenestration: 'forcible or summary removal of an adversary.'

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[TheCount]

Tyranny is living in fear that you can't walk down the street without being killed, that puts a cage on your mind where you can't even hope to dream of liberty and safety, and society completely succumbs to chaos.

Anyone tyrannized by violent crime rates at their lowest since 1970 needs to stop watching the news.

 

[nikcers]

Anyone tyrannized by violent crime rates at their lowest since 1970 needs to stop watching the news.

I wasn't alive in the 70s but the people I have talked to and were alive said that as kids they would go play outside all day and they didnt have to worry about getting attacked by their neighbors.

Also there was something else about not even locking doors too.

 

[TheCount]

I wasn't alive in the 70s but the people I have talked to and were alive said that as kids they would go play outside all day and they didnt have to worry about getting attacked by their neighbors.

Also there was something else about not even locking doors too.

Are you going somewhere with this story?


The difference between the 1970s and now in your anecdote is the worry. People are more worried now than they were then. Why is that?

 

[nikcers]

Are you going somewhere with this story?


The difference between the 1970s and now in your anecdote is the worry. People are more worried now than they were then. Why is that?

Why do you have to go from not locking your doors and letting your kids play outside to locking your kids inside?

The difference is law enforcement and culture.

We had a different culture in the 70s.

 

[TheCount]

Why do you have to go from not locking your doors and letting your kids play outside to locking your kids inside?

You don't have to

You chose to. Because you're worried.

The difference is law enforcement and culture.

We had a different culture in the 70s.

Yes, the culture is definitely different. In the 1970s the sexual and physical abuse rates of children were dramatically higher.

 

[nikcers]

You don't have to

You chose to. Because you're worried.


Yes, the culture is definitely different. In the 1970s the sexual and physical abuse rates of children were dramatically higher.

Was the catalytic converter theft rate higher?

 

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[unknown]

Holy fucking shit.