Trump: Massie should be primaried for voting no too many times

Yeah name 1 bill or legislative accomplishment of Ron Paul. You can't. 20 some odd years in the house for nothing and a 1% presidential run.

Massie has a Republican majority house and Senate and a Republican president, and he is still acting like the opposition party and is helping Democrats more than anything.

Apparently Massie is the single most important member of Congress. Nothing gets done without going thru Massie. Obviously, Trump should consult with Massie on every issue.

And this is the "Ron Paul Forum", so dissing Ron Paul is counter to the site mission.
 
That is probably what this is about. AIPAC is encouraging Trump to attack Massie to try to prevent Massie from becoming a Senator.
Oh, of fucking course, how did I miss that?

JFC, no matter how you vote, you get AIPAC.

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Why doesn't El Jefe' Anaranjado put this much effort into getting rid of people like Lindsey Graham or Lisa Murkowski?

I think Trump would say that Graham is a reliable vote for his priorities and yet they do disagree on some issues. Trump does feud with the likes of Murkowski and Susan Collins. Trump endorsed Kelly Tshibaka against Murkowski in the 2022 Senate election, and Murkowski won because of ranked choice voting and help from the Democrats.

Why would Trump endorse Massie for the Senate when he always votes no and never makes an effort to work with Trump on anything? Massie is turning into Jeff Flake 2.0. Flake stomped his feet, whining all the time against Trump and then cried his eyes out when he got ran out of the Senate by Trump. Haha that was great!
 

Meet the Kentucky Republican Who Beat AIPAC​



So many Democrats are afraid to stand up to the powerful pro-Israel group. But a Republican congressman has done so, and he just scored a big primary win.
JOHN NICHOLS





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It is well understood that the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee is targeting progressive Democratic members of the US House who have dared to object to the government’s support of Israel’s assault on Gaza, including the continued provision of US military aid, for defeat in 2024 primaries. What is not as well known is that AIPAC has also poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into attacking a Republican incumbent.


His name is Thomas Massie. He’s a 53-year-old former local official from northern Kentucky who since 2013 has represented one of the most overwhelmingly Republican districts in the country. Massie proudly declares himself to be a “true conservative” and celebrates the fact that he enjoys “the most conservative lifetime rating of any Kentucky congressman” from groups such as the National Taxpayers Union and Gun Owners of America. Most recently, the congressman joined Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene in a failed attempt to oust Speaker Mike Johnson. But on matters of war and peace, he often sides with progressives, positioning himself as a libertarian-leaning Republican who opposes US military interventionism and military aid packages for foreign countries, including Israel. That stance has drawn sharp criticism from neoconservatives in general, who worry about the return of the sort of old-school Republican isolationism that reflexively opposed military interventions and foreign aid packages, and in particular from AIPAC, which has objected to his many votes against aid to Israel, as well as his rejection of resolutions backing Netanyahu’s government.
 

Meet the Kentucky Republican Who Beat AIPAC​


Every time Trump says something particularly stupid, and I feel like all hope is lost and Clown World wins no matter what... I take comfort in the Ever-No congressman from Kentucky, Thomas Massie. There is at least one voice of sanity in the House. That's not a lot, but it's not nothing, either. There's more to America than "Republican good, Democrat bad!" If that's all the further you can see, you've lost the plot and you're just another puppet of lobbyists and foreign special interests...
 
There's no way that's true.

Anybody know how we can find his all-time record in voting for and against continuing resolutions?
I checked several of the recent ones, he voted no on all 6 votes in the last 2 years. He "technically" voted yes on HR 1892 but that was before it became a CR, link below:


The above "yes" vote was for Honoring Hometown Heroes Act and the bill was later greatly expanded in purpose to become the 2018 CR because sure that makes sense, lets take a bill for honoring hometown heroes and then amend it to become a gigantic funding monstrosity


He did however vote "no" on HR 1892 itself.

My guess is he's probably voted no on all of the CR's but I only checked recent ones
 
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And this is the "Ron Paul Forum", so dissing Ron Paul is counter to the site mission.

I simply want to see results and wins, and we shouldn't shy away from holding our own liberty candidates accountable. Did we audit the fed? No. Did we end the fed? No. Did we close the department of education? No. Did we end warrantless spying? No. Did we reduce global war spending? No.

These are all things and many more that Massie could work with Trump on, instead he is wasting the opportunity, and needs to be called out most by those that support him.
 
I simply want to see results and wins, and we shouldn't shy away from holding our own liberty candidates accountable. Did we audit the fed? No. Did we end the fed? No. Did we close the department of education? No. Did we end warrantless spying? No. Did we reduce global war spending? No.

These are all things and many more that Massie could work with Trump on, instead he is wasting the opportunity, and needs to be called out most by those that support him.
So do I. The CR he voted against continued all those things.

But that would amount to nothing more than a disagreement on tactics, had not Trump blown this up into a feud because Massie has pissed off the Small Hat Club.
 
I simply want to see results and wins, and we shouldn't shy away from holding our own liberty candidates accountable. Did we audit the fed? No. Did we end the fed? No. Did we close the department of education? No. Did we end warrantless spying? No. Did we reduce global war spending? No.
So if there's only 1 guy voting to end the fed or close the department of education your solution is to get rid of that guy?
 
I simply want to see results and wins, and we shouldn't shy away from holding our own liberty candidates accountable. Did we audit the fed? No. Did we end the fed? No. Did we close the department of education? No. Did we end warrantless spying? No. Did we reduce global war spending? No.

These are all things and many more that Massie could work with Trump on, instead he is wasting the opportunity, and needs to be called out most by those that support him.

I don't have any inside scoop, but I assume that Trump still has a grudge about Massie stemming from Trump's COVID missteps, which Massie rightfully called out at the time. I would guess that Massie has been blackballed the entire time, thus any attempt by Massie to work with Trump would be rejected by default.

Massie was brought up by many as the best and most obvious choice for Secretary of Agriculture. Trump rejected that idea, long before Johnson failed to put together a spending bill.
 
I don't have any inside scoop, but I assume that Trump still has a grudge about Massie stemming from Trump's COVID missteps, which Massie rightfully called out at the time. I would guess that Massie has been blackballed the entire time, thus any attempt by Massie to work with Trump would be rejected by default.

Massie was brought up by many as the best and most obvious choice for Secretary of Agriculture. Trump rejected that idea, long before Johnson failed to put together a spending bill.
Sounds about right
 
So if there's only 1 guy voting to end the fed or close the department of education your solution is to get rid of that guy?
After 12 years in office, if he is unable to build a coalition on these issues even within his own party, maybe he's not the best dude for the job and he should step aside? Yeah get rid of him and let someone else try. That's called TERM LIMITS, which Massie says he supports.

I'm simply pointing out that the go it alone strategy hasn't worked either. Give Trump a chance and see what can be accomplished together. We have better people around Trump this time.
 
After 12 years in office, if he is unable to build a coalition on these issues even within his own party, maybe he's not the best dude for the job and he should step aside? Yeah get rid of him and let someone else try. That's called TERM LIMITS, which Massie says he supports.

I'm simply pointing out that the go it alone strategy hasn't worked either. Give Trump a chance and see what can be accomplished together. We have better people around Trump this time.
I've been saying for many years now I would prefer that Massie and Rand go back home to KY and tend to local matters.... e.g. secession
 
Perfect is the worst enemy of good. That's what I have learned with national politics atleast. If the president can't do his job because he doesn't get the support he needs then we just end up with someone like Kamala Harris or somebody even worse.
 
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