Trump Is Exactly Where The Elites Want Him

[nikcers]

I've heard this contention before and it remains stupid. Who was Ron Paul before he blew up in the debates in 2008? He was a congressman from Texas who was popular with his constituents and in libertarian circles, but pretty unknown outside of those groups. He had a passionate base of supporters, but they were still the minority in the party. In 2012 he did better, but .

 

[anaconda]

There are 2 factors that make Trump's campaign different. First, Trump is a larger than life character that demands the spotlight, while Ron Paul is a humble man that doesn't want to run people's lives. Second, the Democrats and MSM wanted Trump promoted and purposefully gave him attention because they erroneously thought he would be easy to defeat in the general election.

Most people are tribal and prefer to assume a secure place among their peers and in support of an identifiable leader. Not a good recipe for a libertarian society nor the selection of a Ron Paul as the preferred leader prototype, even though the Trump style tribal structure is better suited for the year 6,000 B.C., rather than 2017 A.D.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

What does that have to do with what I said?

 

[anaconda]

My desperation hope is that Trump is somehow engaging in some maximally effective behind-the-scenes warfare with the establishment. And that it will become transparent at some point and will, in the end, give liberty a better foothold.

 

[timosman]

Most people are tribal and prefer to assume a secure place among their peers and in support of an identifiable leader. Not a good recipe for a libertarian society nor the selection of a Ron Paul as the preferred leader prototype, even though the Trump style tribal structure is better suited for the year 6,000 B.C., rather than 2017 A.D.

+rep The balls are still important.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

What does that have to do with what I said?

It's just an empty Identity play. "It is required that you must hate Person X, because there exists (or once existed) antipathy between Group Member Y and Person X. To be a True Member of my group, adopt my Hatreds immediately. Or else."

Unfortunately (for us logical people), Identity arguments are the most effective arguments.

 

[Origanalist]

Now there's a damned lie if ever I read one.

There ARE different sides here. There are posters here who, if their words are to be taken on face value, are no friends of liberty. If our words cannot be taken at face, then there is absolutely no reason to come here and we should all relegate our time to net.porn and good coke.

Seriously, how can you write that we are all on the same side, given the crap some people spew here? Am I missing a sense of humor just too subtle for a dullard such as myself?

Out of rep.

 

[pcosmar]

Trump won on populism and nationalism.

what ism he will show next is yet to be seen.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

http://maxblumenthal.com/2012/03/the-bibi-connection/

Suddenly in the wilderness, Netanyahu plotted his path back by cultivating the right-wing in the US — the pundits, the Republican politicians, the big donors, Fox News. In 2007, he held a meeting with a small group of conservative activists emerging as key players in the conservative blogosphere. Among those present was Andrew Breitbart, who became a notorious hatchet man staging wild stunts and whose myriad websites routinely carry conspiratorial, racially charged attacks on Obama. Other figures at the meeting included conservative bloggers Scott Johnson, Jim Hoft and Jeff Emmanuel. “At our meeting we talked mostly about the dangers of the Iranian regime acquiring a nuclear bomb,” Johnson recalled, revealing his newly acquired foreign policy expertise. “It was a subject to which Netanyahu had obviously devoted great thought.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

A lot of people don’t realize this but Breitbart News Network really got its start in Jerusalem. It was the summer of 2007, and Andrew had been invited to tour Israel as part of a media junket. I agreed to tag along as his lawyer and best friend. What neither of us knew at the time was that the trip would change our lives and give us the inspiration for Breitbart News Network.[.....]

One thing we specifically discussed that night was our desire to start a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street. By launching Breitbart Jerusalem, the journey comes full circle and a promise between two friends is fulfilled. And in a very real sense, Breitbart News Network returns to its roots.

I think it depends on which elite individual(s) one is referring to.

 

[fr33]

I expect he'll be a terrible president. I've never seen one that wasn't. Honestly the only good thing about him is how he triggers people that I don't like over every little meaningless thing he does.

 

[Origanalist]

I expect he'll be a terrible president. I've never seen one that wasn't. Honestly the only good thing about him is how he triggers people that I don't like over every little meaningless thing he does.

Not out of rep. I expect the same adulation given to Reagan. Trumpus Maximus.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

"Trump. All the big voices of the movement rallied behind Trump. Bickering you see here is not the movement."



...it's been my experience that 'the movement' is crap-headed...same old same old...every republican numbskull i know who voted for stinking romney in 2012 voted for stinking trump in 2016...

 

[DisneyFan]

A constant stream of negative coverage of Trump pre-election followed by absurd levels of outrage and CIA-pushed fake news stories after the election does not at all suggest that the elites want him in power. Trump is not exactly a pro-liberty kind of guy, that is true, but he's also not who "they" wanted. There are more than two sides here.

 

[timosman]

A constant stream of negative coverage of Trump pre-election followed by absurd levels of outrage and CIA-pushed fake news stories after the election does not at all suggest that the elites want him in power. Trump is not exactly a pro-liberty kind of guy, that is true, but he's also not who "they" wanted. There are more than two sides here.

+rep You mean not everything is black and white?

 

[timosman]

bump?

 

[acptulsa]

A constant stream of negative coverage of Trump pre-election followed by absurd levels of outrage and CIA-pushed fake news stories after the election does not at all suggest that the elites want him in power. Trump is not exactly a pro-liberty kind of guy, that is true, but he's also not who "they" wanted. There are more than two sides here.

I see a lot of people pointing that out. But no matter how often I ask, none of them ever tell me how they would convince a bunch of voters who are disgusted with the Establishment, but too lazy to do any research, to vote for their tool of choice.

The simple fact of the matter is, A constant stream of negative coverage of Your Tool pre-election followed by absurd levels of outrage and CIA-pushed fake news stories after the election is clearly the most logical strategy.

 

[Aratus]

i have indeedy spent the last two years thinking "When will Donald Trump be impeached?" and have speculated about the process.
The events of the past week have me thinking that if there was an ELITE conspiracy to "short sheet" his metaphoric bed, it worked.
the basic question never had the word "IF" in it. i've even said, had Hillary Clinton been a more charismatic candidate, assuming that
the election was not stolen from her, we'd all be hashing over the latest doings of President Tim Kaine. i even brought up multiverses.
the worlds like the ones that inspired the TV show SLIDERS. Our civilization is again at a crossroads, once again, a national debate...

 

[UWDude]

Now I get it... ....they were working together so they could impeach him.

Makes sense.

Just like it did when they let him win the GOP nomination to throw it to Hillary in 2016.

Makes lots of sense.

 

[timosman]

Now I get it... ....they were working together so they could impeach him.

Makes sense.

Just like it did when they let him win the GOP nomination to throw it to Hillary in 2016.

Makes lots of sense.

Aratus was supposed to have a new helmet fit as the old one was too tight. What happened?

 

[UWDude]

Aratus was supposed to have a new helmet fit as the old one was too tight. What happened?

Apparently he is writing a book.
He intends to sell it by paying people to read it.
And even then, he wont make any sales.