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Trump indictment #4: 2020 election RICO conspiracy [Fulton county GA]

I think the point is that COVID would not have been released if Clinton had been in office, if there had been any chance whatsoever it made her look bad. Even if assuming COVID was not released intentionally, I think it would have been downplayed by the MSM. Can't say for sure, not like we can go back in time and test it with a Clinton presidency. The closest we can get is Biden and he was pro-OSHA mandate, lockdown, get-vaccinated-or-your-life-ruined.

The Democrats were opposed to Project Warp Speed until after the election. Remember in the VP debate, they even asked Kamala if she would take the vaccine created through that process and she even said that she didn't trust anything coming out the Trump White House. So, yeah, we don't even need to go back in time to test it.

If you want to look at it conspiratorially, it took a GOP Presidency (with a left press) to create the fear and get the vax through approvals and a DEM Presidency to implement the forced vaccination regime.
 
If you want to look at it conspiratorially, it took a GOP Presidency (with a left press) to create the fear and get the vax through approvals and a DEM Presidency to implement the forced vaccination regime.

People are so unwilling to acknowledge, or even look at, the fact that they always get screwed by "their guy". And that's why they always do get screwed by their guy --the powers that be know they won't squeal too loud, because it's "their guy".

Does anyone think I'm kidding? Clinton (and Sen. Biden, who wrote it) arranged for tens and tens of thousands of black men to get life sentences, so work release programs could use them as slaves. Dubya created a bureau so huge they had to buy an extra chair for the Cabinet room. Obama pissed off several labor unions by cancelling Keystone XL. It never, ever, ever fails. You just have to have eyes to see it with.

"Oh, you can't realistically expect to elect a nobody." If we really can't elect someone until this media cartel says his name ten thousand times, then you can realistically expect to someday have an interesting view of the big hole where this nation used to be.

And no, they never made famous a man they didn't like, no matter how much they pretend to hate him.
 
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That's an excellent hypothesis. Now you're starting to see how Trump was just what they needed to funnel billions to Pfizer.

Same with Dubya. I don't see Al Gore not only getting a pass on allowing 9/11 to happen, but being allowed to start the DHS to lord it over agencies like the FBI. Republicans would have squawked at that, and Democrats of the era would have been resistant within the party to the Patriot Act. He might not have gotten all that done.

And they do have chess players who can think that many moves ahead, yes.

The problem is that Trump supporters didn't even go for it when Trump promoted it. If [getting people to take the jab] was the plan by TPTB, it failed miserably. Most of the republicans who got the jab are the same ones who think Pence and Christie are decent and respectable and that Trump is destroying their party. We've been fighting those guys since Ron Paul ran, or longer.
 
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The problem is that Trump supporters didn't even go for it when Trump promoted it.

Yes, they wound up having some problem with that, though there was a time when Trump people weren't nearly as resistant to the idea as they are now, and I personally know a couple of Republicans who did and regret it.

But they put Warp Speed over and pocketed the kickbacks. They shut down countless small businesses. Hillary Clinton could have met as little resistance crushing hundreds of thousands of small brick and mortar businesses? I doubt it, myself.

Remember, you're thinking, was it a necessary step? Because a normal person thinks, if it's not a necessary step, they won't do it and risk getting caught. And I think that's the change since you and I were kids. Then, they didn't even care who won the general election, because people were convinced a third party vote was wasted, and they got something acceptable nominated in each party.

But these psychos are playing for all the marbles. They aren't just risking the next election; they know they're doing things that just might get them Nurenberged. They appear to be arrogant enough to play psyops which require a switch of presidents in the middle to complete the plots. They think they can control every variable.

And so far they've found plenty of people to put poster board over the windows and reshuffle ballots for money, and nowhere near enough who have the resolve to remain free men. But we still stand a chance. Because they're psychos, and prone to just keep pushing and pushing until they finally do find out what their limitations are.
 
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Because they're psychos, and prone to just keep pushing and pushing until they finally do find out what their limitations are.

When your claim is to be literally God/gods, you have painted yourself into a corner where the only possible response to resistance is escalation. Thus, you had better literally be what you claim to be, or you will be escalated into oblivion. They are not God, obviously, so oblivion is the inevitable outcome. Might be a while, who knows. Sooner or later, they are doomed.

PS: Not sure if that's "3D chess" or not, but it doesn't really matter, because the checkmate is inevitable...:cool:
 
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When your claim is to be literally God/gods, you have painted yourself into a corner where the only possible response to resistance is escalation. Thus, you had better literally be what you claim to be, or you will be escalated into oblivion. They are not God, obviously, so oblivion is the inevitable outcome. Might be a while, who knows. Sooner or later, they are doomed.

Sometimes I think, you really see where this is going, but you just can't believe it's really going there just the way you see it going there.

This level of evil is something you and I have only read about in the back end of the Bible, until now. The devil's last test is to present us with one or more antichrist(s), so God can see if we reject them or not, the way I read it.

Our God is a jealous God, and has warned us about having unconditional faith in mortal men. Just sayin'...
 
Sometimes I think, you really see where this is going, but you just can't believe it's really going there just the way you see it going there.

This level of evil is something you and I have only read about in the back end of the Bible, until now. The devil's last test is to present us with one or more antichrist(s), so God can see if we reject them or not, the way I read it.

Our God is a jealous God, and has warned us about having unconditional faith in mortal men. Just sayin'...

Sure, I see quite clearly the various ways this can play out. Nevertheless, I believe that God is a God of mercy and that he sincerely offers men -- even wicked men -- the opportunity to get off the Hell-gondola before it arrives at its destination. The Israelites many times repented of their idolatry and God averted the scourge of judgment which they were about to be afflicted with. So, if Americans will wake up and start repenting of sin -- even on a civil level (to begin with), and then moving on to our rotten spiritual heart-condition -- God will surely show some mercy, and the coming fiery judgment will not be as bad as it otherwise will be. The fire is what I see most clearly. That is why I spend most of my time searching for paths leading to repentance and mercy, because I love my country and I don't want to see my family, friends, and associates plunged into the flames that are about to envelop us. Not to mention that I don't like suffering, either... it sucks. Job #1 of every believer in America today is repenting of sin (our own sins, first). Job #2 is calling our fellow countrymen to repentance, while clinging to hope in God because, no matter how terrible things are about to get, God will deliver through the flames all who are trusting in Jesus, as he did Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.
 
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If Trump refuses to take the Deep State down with him if they are successful in convicting him and putting him in prison, we'll know for sure he was a Democratic operative the whole time. He certainly won't be pulling a Law Abiding Citizen if that happens.
 
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If Trump refuses to take the Deep State down with him if they are successful in convicting him and putting him in prison, we'll know for sure he was a Democratic operative the whole time. He certainly won't be pulling a Law Abiding Citizen if that happens.

And if you want to, you'll "know [exactly the same thing] for sure", even if he doesn't.

In that case, the "proof" that he is (and will continue to be) a "Democratic operative" will simply shift to some other locus.

Because that's how "controlled opposition" narratives function.

They can account for any event, and thus can never be falsified.
 
And if you want to, you'll "know [exactly the same thing] for sure", even if he doesn't.

In that case, the "proof" that he is (and will continue to be) a "Democratic operative" will simply shift to some other locus.

Because that's how "controlled opposition" narratives function.

They can account for any event, and thus can never be falsified.

^ Which is exactly what a controlled opposition would say
 
Following up on post #218, the court has now dropped the hammer (a default judgment) on Rudy Giuliani for refusing to obey her discovery orders:

Defendant Rudolph W. Giuliani is taken at his word that he understands these [discovery] obligations. He assured this Court directly that he “understand the obligations” because he has “been doing this for 50 years[.]” Transcript of May 19, 2023 Mot. Hearing (“May 19 Hrg. Tr.”) at 67:21–68:6, ECF No. 75. In this case, however, Giuliani has given only lip service to compliance with his discovery obligations and this Court’s orders by failing to take reasonable steps to preserve or produce his ESI. Instead, Giuliani has submitted declarations with concessions turned slippery on scrutiny and excuses designed to shroud the insufficiency of his discovery compliance. The bottom line is that Giuliani has refused to comply with his discovery obligations and thwarted plaintiffs Ruby Freeman and Wandrea’ ArShaye Moss’s procedural rights to obtain any meaningful discovery in this case...

Facing court orders compelling his discovery compliance and potential default judgment as a sanction for failing to preserve ESI, Giuliani filed two personally executed, but unsworn, “stipulations” admitting, for the purposes of this litigation, liability on the factual elements of plaintiffs’ claims and their entitlement to punitive damages. See Def.’s Resp. Pls.’ Mot. (“Def.’s Mot. Resp.”), “Nolo Contendre [sic]” Stipulation (“Giuliani Stip.”), ECF No. 84-2; “Superseding Nolo Contendre [sic]” Stipulation (“Giuliani Superseding Stip.”), ECF No. 90. Giuliani’s stipulations hold more holes than Swiss cheese, with his latest stipulation expressly reserving “his arguments that the statements complained of are protected and non-actionable opinion for purposes of appeal[,]” Giuliani Superseding Stip. ¶¶ 5-6, which arguments were previously rejected in this Court’s decision denying defendant’s motion to dismiss..."

The downside risk of turning the discovery process into what this Court has previously described as a “murky mess,” May 19 Hrg. Tr. at 105:22, is that Rule 37 provides a remedy: sanctions, including entry of default judgment, against Giuliani. See FED. R. CIV. P. 37(e)(2)(C); 37(b)(2)(a)(vi). Given the willful shirking of his discovery obligations in anticipation of and during this litigation, Giuliani leaves little other choice. For the reasons set out below, the pending motion is granted. Default judgment will be entered against Giuliani as a discovery sanction pursuant to Rules 37(e)(2)(C) and 37(b)(2)(a)(vi), holding him civilly liable on plaintiffs’ defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, civil conspiracy, and punitive damage claims, and Giuliani is directed to reimburse plaintiffs for attorneys’ fees and costs associated with their instant motion.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.94.0.pdf

There will now be a trial on the amount of compensatory damages he has to pay.

In addition, the court ordered Giuliani and his affiliated companies to pay the Plaintiff's attorney fees and costs in the amount of $132,856.
 
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