Trump floats path to citizenship for specialized visa holders

[Swordsmyth]

It would be an echo chamber without him and from what I have seen at least he backs up his beliefs whether right or wrong rather than low information or personal attacks. I saw a few threads of his today where what he posted cannot really be disputed. Sometimes the opposition gets it right.

There is enough diversity of opinion here without someone whose entire purpose is to disrupt the movement and deceive.

 

[kahless]

I agree 100% but I am also hoping that he is just trying to look like he isn't "racist" and is willing to offer the Demoncrats a deal but he won't actually do anything and he knows the Demoncrats won't make any deal, not even a deal with DACA/DREAMER amnesty because they wan't wide open borders forever until there are no borders and no USA at all.

Everything is considered racist, the word has completely lost it's power and meaning. So what was the point of backing down when no matter what you do you are going to be called racist anyway. He should have just stood his ground on his campaign platform. Instead he has mainstreamed Democratic and establishment Republican party policies of amnesty as a given and indisputable.

It is not like we all did not know he might do something like this given this what he has done throughout his career but he was all we had at the time.

 

[kahless]

There is enough diversity of opinion here without someone whose entire purpose is to disrupt the movement and deceive.

There is a diversity of low information opposition.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Everything is considered racist, the word has completely lost it's power and meaning. So what was the point of backing down when no matter what you do you are going to be called racist anyway. He should have just stood his ground on his campaign platform. Instead he has mainstreamed Democratic and establishment Republican party policies of amnesty as a given and indisputable.

It is not like we all did not know he might do something like this given this what he has done throughout his career but he was all we had at the time.

I agree, I still think he was "playing chess" with the bumpstock ban etc. too but I said at the time that it was a bad move with no real upside and plenty of downside.

 

[Swordsmyth]

There is a diversity of low information opposition.

I think zippy drives away more people than he is worth, the same is true of several other trolls who don't even have the argument in their favor that you are making for zippy.

 

[angelatc]

I think zippy drives away more people than he is worth, the same is true of several other trolls who don't even have the argument in their favor that you are making for zippy.

ANd some of the people that Zippy drove away were the people who donated to activist causes through the forums. I can't imagine making an argument that his "opinions" are worth more to the movement than actual cash and support.

 

[timosman]

ANd some of the people that Zippy drove away were the people who donated to activist causes through the forums. I can't imagine making an argument that his "opinions" are worth more to the movement than actual cash and support.

Don't tell anyone but Zippy owns the site.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

ANd some of the people that Zippy drove away were the people who donated to activist causes through the forums. I can't imagine making an argument that his "opinions" are worth more to the movement than actual cash and support.

Yep.

I'm in email contact with some of those members driven off by paid trolls. I've tried in vain to bring back one long time member who won't budge.

I like to yuck it up here sometimes, but it's obvious the paid trolls like to suck people into their little high school debates. Even I get sucked in, but these ass clowns need to be crushed out like a sidewalk cigarette.

It's really astounding how some people here defend the blue team of paid trolls--a blue team that has nothing but bad intent for RPF. It's no wonder libertarians lose so much.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yep.

I'm in email contact with some of those members driven off by paid trolls. I've tried in vain to bring back one long time member who won't budge.

I like to yuck it up here sometimes, but it's obvious the paid trolls like to suck people into their little high school debates. Even I get sucked in, but these ass clowns need to be crushed out like a sidewalk cigarette.

It's really astounding how some people here defend the blue team of paid trolls--a blue team that has nothing but bad intent for RPF. It's no wonder libertarians lose so much.

Unfortunately some people like debating things more than they like getting things done.

 

[RJB]

So Zippy, this sounds like something you would be for. Are you becoming a Trump supporter?

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Unfortunately some people like debating things more than they like getting things done.

I agree. You said earlier that it's an activism site.

And if people want the other side of a debate, then I think they need to be a little industrious instead of lazily waiting for paid trolls to feed them on RPF. It's not even that difficult because there are plenty of libtard forums. I peruse Democratic Underground (DU) sometimes. I even made a new account there, but haven't really stirred them up yet.

It's funny though because I use the Mississippi flag (complete with confederate flag inset) as my DU avatar. They won't really ban for that because all the state flags are part of their avatar collection, but I'm sure some of their members bristle at that. The funny thing is that I trolled them awhile back and they banned all the IPs I used, including my home, two colleges, and even a hotel lobby where I happened to be.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I agree. You said earlier that it's an activism site.

And if people want the other side of a debate, then I think they need to be a little industrious instead of lazily waiting for paid trolls to feed them on RPF. It's not even that difficult because there are plenty of libtard forums. I peruse Democratic Underground (DU) sometimes. I even made a new account there, but haven't really stirred them up yet.

It's funny though because I use the Mississippi flag (complete with confederate flag inset) as my DU avatar. They won't really ban for that because all the state flags are part of their avatar collection, but I'm sure some of their members bristle at that. The funny thing is that I trolled them awhile back and they banned all the IPs I used, including my home, two colleges, and even a hotel lobby where I happened to be.

 

[RJB]

The funny thing is that I trolled them awhile back and they banned all the IPs I used, including my home, two colleges, and even a hotel lobby where I happened to be.

How does NCL know who is a troll on this forum? It takes one to know one

 

[kahless]

I'm in email contact with some of those members driven off by paid trolls. I've tried in vain to bring back one long time member who won't budge.

If any of these people support legislation that is for the benefit of people in foreign countries over that of our own citizens then good riddance. They are just as bad as the blue team paid trolls you mentioned.

 

[timosman]

 

[nikcers]

We all know a wall won't work they can just jump over it, with all the money we spend on defense they could build a maze with a real god damn minotaur that the CIA can cook up with their genetic experimentation.