Trump Fans Float Rand Paul As Their Top VP Pick

[sam1952]

I myself have never been an isolationist.
I favor the very opposite of isolation:
diplomacy, free trade, and freedom of travel.
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You wanna get rid of drug crime in this country?
Fine, let's just get rid of all the drug laws.

There's so much violence today, not because people use drugs,but because they're illegal.
You know, the people who benefit the most by all these laws, are the drug cartels,DEA & law enforcement
they lobby to keep these laws in place because they can't exist without them."
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Speak up, speak often
and don't worry about those that
at this point cannot understand,
as they can never un-hear
what we tell them.

- Ron Paul

Fixed that for you...

 

[erowe1]

Oh, LE. I keep hoping that one day you'll wake up and recognize Trump for the authoritarian he is. When this finally happens, only then will the Trump haze be removed from your consciousness so that you can understand what the rest of us are seeing. When that happens - and it will - you're going to finally think back to these days and read your posts with embarrassment.

You give LE too much credit. Trump's authoritarianism is the reason she supports him.

 

[Valli6]

VP Rand Paul as Trump’s brain

If Rand Paul were to act as Trump’s brain the way Cheney was Bush’s brain, I would totally support this. Both Rand and Ron have more knowledge than I about if and how, such a thing might be carried out. It’s an unlikely offer, but I would trust whatever response Rand made if it occurred.

Trump lacks an in-depth knowledge of the Constitution, how government is supposed to interact, how our currency has been devalued, and so much of the history of our interactions with other countries - particularly the stuff our government has chosen to obscure. In this respect Rand is the opposite of Donald Trump and would fill in all his blanks. He’s also his opposite personality wise - loud and brash verses calm, thoughtful and polite.

At this moment however, I think Rand is truly more concerned with fixing congress. Also, I doubt that Trump has the humility to consider such a thing, because it would be admitting that he has shortcomings.

 

[acptulsa]

But that might interfere with Trump's day job--which is very obviously throwing this election to Clinton.

If that weren't what he was doing, he wouldn't be working so hard at pissing off people he doesn't need to piss off in order to get the most mouth-breathingest five percent of the population to nominate him, now would he? One only does that if one's purpose is to lose the general election.

 

[CPUd]

If Rand Paul were to act as Trump’s brain the way Cheney was Bush’s brain, I would totally support this. Both Rand and Ron have more knowledge than I, if and how, such a thing might be carried out. It’s an unlikely offer, but I would trust whatever response Rand made if it occurred.

Trump lacks an in-depth knowledge of the Constitution, how government is supposed to interact, how our currency has been devalued, and so much of the history of our interactions with other countries - particularly the stuff our government has chosen to obscure. In this respect Rand is the opposite of Donald Trump and would fill in all his blanks. He’s also his opposite personality wise - loud and brash verses calm, thoughtful and polite.

At this moment however, I think Rand is truly more concerned with fixing congress. Also, I doubt that Trump has the humility to consider such a thing, because it would be admitting that he has shortcomings.

Trump has a long history of surrounding himself with sycophants; he made it through the primaries in spite of this flaw, but it will prevent him from being elected. Rand can't be VP for anyone this cycle now that he's made the call to go with the Senate campaign. He can't be on the ballot in KY for 2 races, and now that the Senate GOP is losing at least 2 seats, the party can't afford to give up a safe seat.

 

[specsaregood]

Uh huh and most of those people are Bernie supporters now. Not Trump.

Its quite possible, probably a bit off both. But erowes statement about RP supporters supporting trump could easily be said about those supporting Bernie now.

Another thing is, Ron for all his libertarianism had a very populist pro-US message. Its got different ideological roots and positions from Trump but its a lot of the same pro-US message. That has got to appeal to quite a few RP people too who weren't hard core anarchist. Meh, I just don't believe Trump in anyway.

 

[CaptUSA]

Personally, I believe the sideline sitters should be embarrassed.

We aren't "sideline sitters". We just don't agree with the choices between two authoritarians. We believe there are other options. You callously call 3rd parties a "protest vote" as if the two major parties own the rest. We disagree. Most of us think that the candidate, regardless of what party they're occupying, have to earn each vote each election cycle.

We don't subscribe to your false dichotomy. And interestingly, this election cycle presents perhaps the best opportunity in recent history to break through it. But in order for that to happen, people need to wake up from this Trump fantasy. (You know he sells those right? He wrote the book about how to sell people on their own fantasies)

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Trump has a long history of surrounding himself with sycophants; he made it through the primaries in spite of this flaw, but it will prevent him from being elected. Rand can't be VP for anyone this cycle now that he's made the call to go with the Senate campaign. He can't be on the ballot in KY for 2 races, and now that the Senate GOP is losing at least 2 seats, the party can't afford to give up a safe seat.

That is, sadly, the case. Rand won't be the VP because he is choosing to run for reelection. But it doesn't change the fact that he and Trump would both benefit from being on the ticket together. Nor does it change the reality that Trump's victory against the kingmakers is strategically useful to us, his authoritarian streak nonewithstanding.

 

[phill4paul]

That is, sadly, the case. Rand won't be the VP because he is choosing to run for reelection. But it doesn't change the fact that he and Trump would both benefit from being on the ticket together. Nor does it change the reality that Trump's victory against the kingmakers is strategically useful to us, his authoritarian streak nonewithstanding.

That is not a fact. If you know that the trestle has been washed away ten miles down the track you don't buy a train ticket.

 

[acptulsa]

That is not a fact. If you know that the trestle has been washed away ten miles down the track you don't buy a train ticket.

This.

Five percent of the American population is enough to:

* Get you the GOP nomination

* Hand the GOP its biggest landslide loss since 1854

...and that's about it.

 

[Jamesiv1]

In 1996, while Bob Dole was running?

t00b or it didn't happen.

I remember it was a beautiful Saturday afternoon in May of 1996..... I had just finished playing a little-league baseball game (we won!) and I was at home enjoying a grilled cheese sandwich along with a hearty bowl of Campbell's Tomato Soup. After the 2nd bite it occurred to me that this guy Trump looks like he's going to be a player. And he's going to consider a libertarian-leaning ophthalmologist to be his running mate on his "Make America Great Again!!" presidential ticket.

Sure enough... I nailed that shit.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Life insurance.

LOL. Yeah, that would do it.

 

[Foreigner]

Rand has already been asked by the media if he would accept being Trump's VP.

His response?

- "Trump as president would be a disaster, and I would not want anything to do with it."

 

[cajuncocoa]

How did we fail so massively at convincing Ron Paul supporters to reject Trump?

How did Ron fail to convince them?

 

[CPUd]

This is what your reply might look like to a Trump supporter.

 

[SilentBull]

I did hear John Bolton is on Trump's short list for secretary of state.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Is there anything to gain for Donald?

Full legitimacy within braoder GOP and support from many Libertarians.

 

[Influenza]

Seems like TheTexan type people are not the minority! Trump/Rand 2016 ! (Rand as VP)

 

[fisharmor]

You go from thread to thread spinning this fairytale. Doesn't make it any more true than in the last thread.

I try to chime in on every thread where erowe1 brings this up.
To show solidarity with him.
Others do this too.

Do you have other people on this thread that have bought this xenophobic one-race-one-culture-one-country nonsense you spout here?

Personally I find this distasteful, having to explain our position so many times over. I do it despite the fact that you're once again going to kick and scream and not listen.
I do it because I know other people are reading this, and they might not have such a visceral reaction to the idea that we may not want to plunge into a police state just to keep the brown people at bay.

Either those who profess to love liberty are going to start listening to this position, or the alternative is for this movement to stay dead.
Closed borders is an unconstitutional, anti-liberty position. When a professed liberty-oriented individual takes that position he is being as philosophically inconsistent as is humanly possible.
Check yourself, before you wreck everything.

 

[Jamesiv1]

I try to chime in on every thread where erowe1 brings this up.
To show solidarity with him.
Others do this too.

Do you have other people on this thread that have bought this xenophobic one-race-one-culture-one-country nonsense you spout here?

Personally I find this distasteful, having to explain our position so many times over. I do it despite the fact that you're once again going to kick and scream and not listen.
I do it because I know other people are reading this, and they might not have such a visceral reaction to the idea that we may not want to plunge into a police state just to keep the brown people at bay.

Either those who profess to love liberty are going to start listening to this position, or the alternative is for this movement to stay dead.
Closed borders is an unconstitutional, anti-liberty position. When a professed liberty-oriented individual takes that position he is being as philosophically inconsistent as is humanly possible.
Check yourself, before you wreck everything.

You sir, are no lover of liberty.