Trump changes tune about 2016 Trump Tower meeting under investigation by special counsel

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President Trump appeared to change his story Sunday about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation. Mr. Trump tweeted that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent. Sunday's development comes on the heels of a campaign-style rally Saturday night in Ohio where he took aim at the media and Democrats.

"Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower," Mr. Trump wrote. "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics -- and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"

That is a far different explanation than Mr. Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."

The misdirection came amid a series of searing tweets sent from his New Jersey golf club, in which he tore into two of his favorite targets, the news media and Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into possible links between the president's campaign and Russia. Mr. Trump unleashed particular fury at reports that he was anxious about the Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr. and other senior campaign officials.

Mr. Trump's critics immediately pounced on the new story, the latest of several versions of events about a meeting for which emails were discovered between the president's eldest son and an intermediary from the Russian government offering damaging information about Mr. Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton. Betraying no surprise or misgivings about the offer from a hostile foreign power, Trump Jr. replied: "If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer."

Sunday's tweet was Mr. Trump's clearest statement yet on the purpose of the meeting, which has become a focal point of Mueller's investigation even as the president and his lawyers try to downplay its significance and pummel the Mueller probe with attacks. On Sunday, Mr. Trump again suggested without evidence that Mueller was biased against him, declaring, "This is the most one sided Witch Hunt in the history of our country."

CBS News' Weijia Jiang reports that Mr. Trump has tweeted at least 24 times that the investigation is rigged, a hoax and a witch hunt -- without making the distinction between collusion and meddling.

As Mr. Trump and his allies have tried to discredit the probe, a new talking point has emerged: that even if that meeting was held to collect damaging information, none was provided and "collusion" -- Mr. Trump's go-to description of what Mueller is investigating -- never occurred.

"The question is what law, statute or rule or regulation has been violated, and nobody has pointed to one," said Jay Sekulow, one of Mr. Trump's attorneys, on ABC's "This Week."

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said on CBS' "Face the Nation" that the president is referring to collusion when he criticizes Mueller's probe.

"But in terms of the meddling, there's no question," she said Sunday.

But legal experts have pointed out several possible criminal charges, including conspiracy against the United States and aiding and abetting a conspiracy. And despite Mr. Trump's public Twitter denial, the president has expressed worry that his son may face legal exposure even as he believes he did nothing wrong, according to three people close to the White House familiar with the president's thinking but not authorized to speak publicly about private conversations.

Sekulow acknowledged that the public explanation for the meeting has changed but insisted that the White House has been very clear with the special counsel's office. He said he was not aware of Trump Jr. facing any legal exposure.

"I don't represent Don Jr.," Sekulow said, "but I will tell you I have no knowledge at all of Don Jr. being told that he's a target of any investigation, and I have no knowledge of him being interviewed by the special counsel."

Democrats hammered away at the president's admission.

"The Russians offered damaging info on your opponent. Your campaign accepted. And the Russians delivered," tweeted Rep. Adam Schiff of California, top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. "You then misled the country about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting when it became public. Now you say you didn't know in advance. None of this is normal or credible."

Mr. Trump's days of private anger spilled out into public with the Twitter outburst, which comes at a perilous time for the president.

A decision about whether he sits for an interview with Mueller may also occur in the coming weeks, according to another one of his attorneys, Rudy Giuliani. Mr. Trump has seethed against what he feels are trumped-up charges against his former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, whose trial began last week and provided a visible reminder of Mueller's work.

And he raged against the media's obsession with his links to Russia and the status of Michael Cohen, his former fixer, who is under federal investigation in New York. Cohen has indicated that he would tell prosecutors that Mr. Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting ahead of time.

Despite a show of force from his national security team this week as a warning against future Russian election meddling, Trump again deemed the matter a "hoax" this week. And at a trio of rallies, he escalated his already vitriolic rhetoric toward the media, savaging the press for unflattering coverage and, he feels, bias.

"The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it's TRUE," Mr. Trump tweeted Sunday. "I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!"

The fusillade of tweets came from Bedminster, Mr. Trump's golf course, where he is ensconced in a property that bears his name at every turn and is less checked in by staffers. It was at the New Jersey golf club where a brooding Mr. Trump has unleashed other inflammatory attacks and where, in spring 2017, he made the final decision to fire FBI Director James Comey, the move that triggered the Russia probe.

Mr. Trump was joined for his Saturday rally in Ohio by former White House communications director Hope Hicks, who departed the administration earlier this year. Her unannounced presence raised some eyebrows as Hicks has been interviewed by Mueller and was part of the team of staffers that helped draft the original statement on the Trump Tower meeting.

Multiple White House officials have been interviewed while still working at the White House and have remained in contact with the president.
 
when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read

Who says it was dictated by Trump Sr.?

In any case it is all pointless, the worst accusations fall far short of anything illegal, getting information from foreigners is not illegal nor is it a "campaign contribution" and Hitlery is as much or more guilty of foreign collusion than Trump.
 
legal experts have pointed out several possible criminal charges, including conspiracy against the United States and aiding and abetting a conspiracy.
Bunk.
 
according to three people close to the White House familiar with the president's thinking but not authorized to speak publicly about private conversations.

Fake News.
 
"The Russians offered damaging info on your opponent. Your campaign accepted. And the Russians delivered," tweeted Rep. Adam Schiff
NEWS FLASH: They didn't deliver.
 
Trump's lawyers say he dictated it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html
The lawyers acknowledged that Mr. Trump dictated a statement to The Times about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between some of his top advisers and Russians who were said to have damaging information about Hillary Clinton. Though the statement is misleading — in it, the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., said he met with Russians “primarily” to discuss adoption issues — the lawyers call it “short but accurate.”


If there are charges from this filed against Trump I assume it'll land in the Supreme Court's lap. Is it any wonder Trump's supreme pick now believes Presidents should be exempt from special investigations?



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...tower-meeting-russian-lawyer-raises-legal-qu/

"If the meeting is as described, it would raise serious issues of liability under laws restricting foreign participation and influence in American elections," said Samuel Issacharoff, a professor at New York University School of Law.

Federal law prohibits a foreign national from giving anything of value to a campaign engaged in a U.S. election. It’s also a crime to solicit a foreign national to do so, or even to "knowingly provide substantial assistance" in receiving something of value.

While illegal foreign contributions typically take the form of money, legal experts told us it’s possible a court could find that "information" satisfies the legal requirement if it’s considered valuable to a campaign.

"Contributions definitely do not need to be in the form of cash to constitute a thing of value," said Michael S. Kang, a law professor at Emory University Law School. "However, it also needs to be said that this is an unusual situation quite unlike the usual context for an illegal foreign contribution, typically in the form of money rather than information."
 
Still a nothing burger, if politicians could be prosecuted for being misleading almost none of them would be walking around free.






https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/11/trump-tower-meeting-russian-lawyer-raises-legal-qu/
Bunk, information is intangible, it is not and can not be a "thing of value".
 
Any law that purported to prohibit the exchange of information would be unconstitutional based on the 1st Amendment, freedom of speech and its mirror image freedom to listen trump any such nonsense.
 
I wonder if we'll ever pull back the veil and realize that EVERY campaign and EVERY industrialized country does this?? They share information, they make up information, they use it in their campaigns... Our government does it and so do theirs.

Seriously, I hope this means they're stopping the denials and just laying out how the whole thing works. Is it illegal? Yeah, probably - but it's not unlawful. No one's liberty is violated based on these things. This is what happens when Americans get caught up in the soap opera of politics - it doesn't matter what policies are at stake - it's all about working the news cycle in the press. Oh, they LOOOOVE that!!

It is unfortunate that Americans elect their leaders on this idiocracy, but that's the way it is. So do I care that they're using this as another political ploy in their soap opera??? Not one bit.
 
Two days before hand, Trump announce to the press he has some dirt on Clinton and will reveal it in a few days. No promised speech followed. Was he expecting to get the info at the Trump Tower meeting and came up empty? He denies he even knew about the meeting until afterwards but this suggests he did know about the meeting and its purpose.

http://time.com/4360872/donald-trump-new-jersey-victory-speech-transcript/

I am going to give a major speech on probably Monday of next week and we’re going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons. I think you’re going to find it very informative and very, very interesting. I wonder if the press will want to attend, who knows.


There was no meeting.
There was a meeting but it was only two people.
The meeting was to discuss adoptions of Russian babies.

1. The New York Times reports about the meeting -- between, among others, Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya -- on July 8. Trump Jr. gives the Times a statement about the meeting that reads: "It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared (Kushner) and Paul (Manafort) to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up."

They only heard about possible Clinton information after they were at the meeting.
They met because they were told the Russians had information on Clinton.
Number of people at the meeting is increased to eight.
Now the meeting was set up specifically to get info on Clinton.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/01/politics/timeline-donald-trump-jr-/index.html


"Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower," Trump wrote. "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"

That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr.,. read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-insists-trump-tower-meeting-totally-legal-140423186--politics.html
 
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Two days...

Oooohhh... political intrigue!! And, no one cares.

Is there a campaign that doesn’t do this, Zip? Are you this naive??

This is political sausage-making. Doesn’t really cut the spending, does it?
 
There is so much dirt on Clinton's that Trump could have brought up. Just because he said he was going to reveal something means nothing. He could talk about anything from cocaine at airports to Haiti to Benghazi to email to all the door hangers.
 
There is so much dirt on Clinton's that Trump could have brought up. Just because he said he was going to reveal something means nothing. He could talk about anything from cocaine at airports to Haiti to Benghazi to email to all the door hangers.

Given the time frame I had thought what he said to mean an inside scoop on the personal server case.
 
Sorry guys, but you are falling for some major FAKE NEWS here. You should know better than to trust anything reported in the MSM. Trump is not "changing his tune". His position on the meeting has been consistent for over a year now:




Moreover, Trump Jr. testified before Congress about this whole thing a couple months after. So as far as fake news goes, this is bizarre. They are basically counting on you to completely forget about the most essential elements of this story for it to make any sense at all. But I guess Derangement Syndrome is so high on the left, and the whole Russian Story made such little logical sense to begin with, they aren't even bothering to put in even minimal effort in constructing their fake narratives.
 
Sorry guys, but you are falling for some major FAKE NEWS here. You should know better than to trust anything reported in the MSM. Trump is not "changing his tune". His position on the meeting has been consistent for over a year now:




Moreover, Trump Jr. testified before Congress about this whole thing a couple months after. So as far as fake news goes, this is bizarre. They are basically counting on you to completely forget about the most essential elements of this story for it to make any sense at all. But I guess Derangement Syndrome is so high on the left, and the whole Russian Story made such little logical sense to begin with, they aren't even bothering to put in even minimal effort in constructing their fake narratives.

It wasn't just MSM, it's from Trump's own tweets. It would seem an official communication of the president shouldn't be changing stories and giving outright lies at the frequency done via twitter. I know this is Apprentice White House but the whole reality tv is getting exhausting to keep up with
 
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