Trump: Block ALL Muslim immigration

[kahless]

LOL those are not similarities. Rand has never said he wants to ban people from the US based on religion. Trump also wants Jeb to build a wall (not a fence), then he is going to kick out the illegals just to let them come right back. Just the logistics of doing something like that will show the US citizens what a real police state looks like.

You have again changed the topic. My reply to you was about the protesters with the racist Trump signs. For the protesters there is no difference based on the relevant similarities I posted. If Rand was the front-runner his name would be on those signs rather than Trump.

 

[thoughtomator]

I strongly disagree with many of the comments earlier on this thread.

If I knock on your door and ask to be let inside so I can murder you and your family, only a fool would say come on in.

It is the explicit goal of Islam to set up a one-world global religious government (the "Caliphate") where everyone who is not a member of their religion or a specific class of tribute-paying slave ("dhimmi") is dead.

Claiming Islam as a religion is the functional equivalent of issuing a death threat. It is absolutely insane to permit the proliferation of this creed - and doubly insane for a person who values liberty, as there is no liberty under Islam. Islam literally translates to "submission", and their alternatives to voluntary submission are submission by violence or submission by death. You could not create, even hypothetically, a creed that was more antithetical to liberty than Islam is.

Islam is your eternal enemy. As long as it exists it cannot be otherwise, and your opinion and disposition towards it are not variables in that equation.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

If I knock on your door and ask to be let inside so I can murder you and your family, only a fool would say come on in.

Hypothetical question. There is knock on the door and it appears someone's car broke down in front of your house. Through the peep hole you see one of these two guys. You ask, "who is it?"
Answer comes, "this is mike tyson (or snoop dog), I just need to make a phone call, I come in peace".

Will you open the door and let him in or not?

 

[thoughtomator]

Hypothetical question. There is knock on the door and it appears someone's car broke down in front of your house. Through the peep hole you see one of these two guys. You ask, "who is it?"
Answer comes, "this is mike tyson (or snoop dog), I just need to make a phone call, I come in peace".

Will you open the door and let him in or not?

Funny you should pose such a scenario, it's very similar to something that happened when I was younger. I did let the person in to make a phone call, and after they left I discovered she (a small female with a very non-threatening appearance) robbed me while my back was turned.

That was the days before pocket-sized mobile phones. I can assure you that both Tyson and Snoop Dogg have them, and not only would they not be invited in, but I would also have a loaded firearm in hand until they were gone. They can wait on the front porch and I'd be perfectly happy to offer some coffee as hospitality, but that's it.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Ok thank you for sharing your thoughts TM. Human nature is to build defenses based on past experiences.

Actually there was news recently someone's car broke down and they had to knock on the door to get help, but things are not same as it used to be years ago.

 

[CPUd]

You have again changed the topic. My reply to you was about the protesters with the racist Trump signs. For the protesters there is no difference based on the relevant similarities I posted. If Rand was the front-runner his name would be on those signs rather than Trump.

If they do the same thing to Rand, it is because the divisive rhetoric of Trump that is front and center every day for months now has been attributed to the entire GOP, which was the whole point of Trump getting in the race. He has co-opted the party as his own, much like a 3rd world dictator would do. All he needs now is control over the military, which he would take if he got elected.

 

[puppetmaster]

Bacon?

yes

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Would this moratorium include Saudi Arabia, or will they be redacted from the list?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Would this moratorium include Saudi Arabia, or will they be redacted from the list?

If petro dollar loaded Saudis, who happen to be much more successful at amassing billions than him, are able to make "a big beautiful" deal with Trump, he might offer them a VP slot. He is great at making deals with everyone.


Trump: 'I Love the Muslims'

Sep 20, 2015 - GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, under fire for not correcting a man at a New Hampshire town hall for attacking Muslims and accusing President Barack Obama of being one, said on Saturday he loves Muslims and would consider putting one in his cabinet, CNN reports.

Trump spoke before a high school homecoming event in Urbandale, Iowa, and was asked by a student about the issue.

"I consider Muslim Americans to be an important asset to our country and society. Would you consider putting one in your cabinet, or even on your ticket?" a student asked Trump.

"Oh, absolutely. No problem with that," Trump responded.

A CNN reporter also asked Trump about the controversy outside the event.

"I love the Muslims. I think they're great people," Trump said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-muslims-love-them/2015/09/20/id/692424/
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Donald Trump would consider appointing a Muslim
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Donald-Trump-says-absolutely-consider...Daily Mail
Sep 20, 2015 - The billionaire has faced tremendous scrutiny after he failed to correct a New Hampshire town hall .... Trump: I'd consider a Muslim for my Cabinet - CNNPolitics.com ... 'I'll take a bullet before you do - that's for damn sure':.

 

[thoughtomator]

Human nature is to build defenses based on past experiences.

It's called "learning" and it's a function of something called "intelligence".

In a country full of people with no morals only a fool would turn their back on a stranger. The average moral fiber has only plummeted in the time between then and now.

 

[juleswin]

Bacon?

Even better you can pull their pants down. If they are not cut then they are probably Muslims.

Yes, it is very unreliable since Christians now do not always circumcise. But still you would end up having the fun of checking out and playing with so many dicks. Its gonna be like you've died and gone to dick heaven

 

[thoughtomator]

Even better you can pull their pants down. If they are not cut then they are probably Muslims.

Yes, it is very unreliable since Christians now do not always circumcise. But still you would end up having the fun of checking out and playing with so many dicks. Its gonna be like you've died and gone to dick heaven

Or better yet, if they say they are Muslims, then that's called a "confession" and for all practical purposes it will do the job. You don't need to resort to bizarre inspections when people are telling you straight out what they are.

 

[The Northbreather]

I strongly disagree with many of the comments earlier on this thread.

If I knock on your door and ask to be let inside so I can murder you and your family, only a fool would say come on in.

It is the explicit goal of Islam to set up a one-world global religious government (the "Caliphate") where everyone who is not a member of their religion or a specific class of tribute-paying slave ("dhimmi") is dead.

Claiming Islam as a religion is the functional equivalent of issuing a death threat. It is absolutely insane to permit the proliferation of this creed - and doubly insane for a person who values liberty, as there is no liberty under Islam. Islam literally translates to "submission", and their alternatives to voluntary submission are submission by violence or submission by death. You could not create, even hypothetically, a creed that was more antithetical to liberty than Islam is.

Islam is your eternal enemy. As long as it exists it cannot be otherwise, and your opinion and disposition towards it are not variables in that equation.

I find it sad and interesting that this movement is likely gaining power because of the actions of imperialists who have the exact same goals in terms of subjugating others.

 

[LibertyEagle]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...mp-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration



Has he finally jumped the shark? Or did this just win him Iowa? Once again, Trump has figured out a way to stay in the headlines

Edit: This is not just immigration, this is blocking them ALL from even entering the US! Whether on a student visa, or for tourism, or anything at all. If you're Muslim, do not pass GO

Yes, and I think he's right. Until we get our fricking government out of the Middle East at least.

 

[thoughtomator]

I find it sad and interesting that this movement is likely gaining power because of the actions of imperialists who have the exact same goals in terms of subjugating others.

Their end goals are similar but not the same. The obstacle to their end goal - free peoples who inherited the legacy of the Enlightenment - is the same. Each believes it will end up calling the shots once we are destroyed.

 

[CPUd]

Or better yet, if they say they are Muslims, then that's called a "confession" and for all practical purposes it will do the job. You don't need to resort to bizarre inspections when people are telling you straight out what they are.

Yes, we can just let them confess.

 

[derek4ever]

Listen to how weak Trump's voice is. Looks like he came down with something, or maybe he just wore it out. That's not going away, possibly for a week or two. In the mean time, he can no longer properly defend himself. He can no longer excoriate people in the same way he used to

This might be Trump's most vulnerable moment.

Maybe he's starting to get some bad karma from AIPAC? I always said that if his ego starts getting him in trouble with anybody in particular, it would be with those guys. You don't mess with them.

 

[thoughtomator]

Yes, we can just let them confess.

Dishonest much? Who needs a rack when they voluntarily say it right to your face?

That debate style of yours is far more progressive-Left than libertarian. Perhaps you should join the social justice warrior crowd, you would probably be more comfortable there than among truth-tellers.

 

[CPUd]

Dishonest much? Who needs a rack when they voluntarily say it right to your face?

That debate style of yours is far more progressive-Left than libertarian. Perhaps you should join the social justice warrior crowd, you would probably be more comfortable there than among truth-tellers.

It always starts out being voluntary. Back in the day, if someone voluntarily confessed they were a witch, they might have gotten a quick death. Otherwise the tools of confession were applied until that person died or confessed they were a witch. Letting the person go free was never an option.

 

[thoughtomator]

It always starts out being voluntary. Back in the day, if someone voluntarily confessed they were a witch, they might have gotten a quick death. Otherwise the tools of confession were applied until that person died or confessed they were a witch. Letting the person go free was never an option.

We had a similar prohibition (and still do) about members of the Nazi Party of Germany. Somehow, people were NOT tortured to confess that they were Nazis. So there's a direct, recent historical precedent demonstrating that the slippery slope fallacy is in this case genuinely a fallacy.

The creation of a non-falsifiable hypothesis like you have done in this instance is not a hallmark of honest debate; it is a hallmark of SJW emotionalism, an attempt to bully others to go along with an assertion that doesn't have a solid logical foundation. If it did, there would be no reason to resort to this kind of fearmongering.

There are examples of slippery slope arguments being correct (i.e. acceptance of homosexuality leading to attempts to normalize pedophilia), but in this case you haven't a leg to stand on.