Trump at CPAC: "It will be one of the greatest military buildups in American history"


And if he intends to lower the debt, where is he going to get the money for "one of the greatest military build-ups in American history?" Does anyone believe he's going to do this without raising increasing debt? The guy is a bullshit artist, bigly.

P.S. Has Mexico sent him the check for the wall yet?
 


No the Trump talking point of the day is that debt went down, from January to Febuary. I checked the debt clock and the debt is definitely higher today then it was every day of January, but I have this JPEG that says Trump has LOWERED the debt.
Not to mention the state of the economy in Obama's first month. You wouldn't give credit to Obama for 'reducing spending' from 2008 to 2016 because the budget deficit went down. Nothing has changed with regards to spending since then, all that's changed is an increase in tax revenues due to economic growth.
 
So, something is happening already. I'm seeing thousands of new military contractor jobs being posted within the last week. This is more than mere turn-over, this is a build up. They must have gotten assurances that the GOP Congress and this President are going to be funneling money to them. The MIC is alive and well! This is all very disturbing.
 
...in my area there's a growing 'anti-trump' group-(about 100 well-organized and very local and vocal)-...i would love to help out, but from what i've seen many of them are hillary voters/democrats...ugh..

...the democrats are half right...the republicans absolutely suck...but their democrat 'ideas' also suck...

...the stinking republicans and democrats are like two schoolkids who both suck at something screaming, 'you suck' at each other....
 
Not to mention the state of the economy in Obama's first month. You wouldn't give credit to Obama for 'reducing spending' from 2008 to 2016 because the budget deficit went down. Nothing has changed with regards to spending since then, all that's changed is an increase in tax revenues due to economic growth.
Yeah but you missed the memo so since we don't like Obama that means that Trump is somehow conservative because he is not Obama. Black is gray because it's not white.
 
Liberal will defend Obama no matter what. They can't stand Trump. But we see them posting here daily.
We'll just agree to disagree whether or not we people are defending Obama when we call Trump a piece of shit. If I could vote twice and I had a choice between Hillary, Obama, and Trump, I would vote for Trump twice. I am just not going to spend the rest of my days defending their authoritarian policies just because I voted for them. I am not going to be silent and not speak out against huge military buildups. I am not going to be silent when my rights are on the table because with an authoritarian president everything is on the table.
 
Yea, I understand people being scared of head chopping militants muslims or not. But does your grandma think we need to more technology advanced technology to defeat them? Maybe I am wrong but I don't think she believes that we need better missile defense systems, new air crafts etc etc just a commitment to fight them in order to defeat them. .

I see I see. In general I think you're right. An example where people were talking specifically about upgrading technology was when the news was reporting about how our nuclear submarines are to old and need replacing. But generally the news just says, the military needs more money, and then the military does upgrading/downgrading or whatever with it. Getting a little conspiratorial here maybe, but keeping the population at this level of understanding: "military needs moar money", versus maybe "military needs more moar money to upgrade the specific equipment", is done to prevent what the next leap would be which is: why do we need to upgrade this specific equipment?. The MiC budget would be fubar if people started asking questions like that imo.
 
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The PNAC boys must be tinkling in their Depends with delight.
 


No the Trump talking point of the day is that debt went down, from January to Febuary. I checked the debt clock and the debt is definitely higher today then it was every day of January, but I have this JPEG that says Trump has LOWERED the debt.

Trump hasn't had a budget even passed yet. Once again trying to claim credit for something he had nothing to do with (had it actually happened)

Details: https://www.forbes.com/sites/timwor...nothing-to-do-with-trump-though/#2561ff941fe3

Trump's Right, The Debt Has Fallen $12 Billion - It's Nothing To Do With Trump Though

Donald Trump has tweeted this morning about how just absolutely terrible the media are for not making more of the manner in which the national debt has fallen since his inauguration. He's right that it has fallen--and it's also absolutely nothing at all to do with the fact that Donald Trump was elected nor that he took office. It's about the vagaries of Federal accounting plus the fact that tax revenue is rather "lumpy" to use the vernacular. What it isn't is a signal that the national debt is on a downward path generally--at a reasonable guess we'd expect that to increase by about half a trillion $ over the year as that's the size of the predicted budget deficit.

But it's still true that he's right so far:

The media has not reported that the National Debt in my first month went down by $12 billion vs a $200 billion increase in Obama first mo.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 25, 2017

The information apparently comes from Gateway Pundit (via Herb Cain on a cable talk show) and is drawn from this listing by the Treasury.

The truth is that these numbers bumble about near randomly. Neither spending nor revenue comes in equal daily increments, meaning that the outstanding debt can rise or fall on any specific day.

Some of the criticism of Trump's point is valid:

The debt is rising more slowly now because economic growth has strengthened and because of policy decisions made during Mr. Obama’s administration. But the debt is on a clear upward trend. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated in January that the debt would increase by $559 billion in the current fiscal year, ending in September.

That's valid--although note that the rise in the debt won't in fact equal that deficit. Because there are two entirely different sets of debt, that owed to the public and that owed inter-government (the Social Security trust fund for example, although there's lots more too) and the interaction between them is complex.

This is slightly less fair:

While it’s true that the debt probably ticked down, “this is mostly due to the federal government rebalancing its intra-governmental holdings,” the publication reported. “Debt outstanding to the public has barely budged since Inauguration Day."

That slight unfairness being that "barely budged" is true but "fallen by about $100 million" would be more accurate.

So if you were minded to say so you could, accurately, say that the public debt owed to the public has fallen since Inauguration Day. Which is fun and amusing but not important. For we're really very certain indeed that it is going to rise over the course of this year.

Although we're not absolutely 100% certain--we really must remember that all of these numbers are forecasts. Pretty good ones, the best we can do but still forecasts. And the deficit, and thus the addition to the debt, is the balance between two vast numbers. Federal spending is in the $3 to $4 trillion range, Federal revenues are in the $3 to $4 trillion range and the deficit is the difference between them. Absolutely no one at all would be surprised if either of them moved $50 billion either way from our forecasts at this point and $200 billion either way for each is possible.
 
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We never win wars anymore. We must make sure President Donald gets these funds so we can win wars again.
 
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