Tom Woods: My Memories of Jesse Benton

[phill4paul]

well do u want the revolution to work ... ? that's all that matters here or are u divorcing us too ? take care I hear you

Ain't nobody on these forums on 'ignore.'

 

[BestVirginia]

+rep for you Tom.

I agree with your ending. I did not donate this round to Ron because of his staff and lack of considerations you made early in this article. If Benton is on Rand's staff in any capacity more meaningful than shoe shiner I will certainly not donate to him either, if he runs in 2016.

Are you saying you wouldn't donate to a Rand senatorial campaign, or a presidential campaign, or both? I also would have donated more if I'd felt the campaign was addressing concerns of the grassroots.

 

[The Gold Standard]

Are you saying you wouldn't donate to a Rand senatorial campaign, or a presidential campaign, or both? I also would have donated more if I'd felt the campaign was addressing concerns of the grassroots.

If Benton has anything to do with Rand's campaign then I won't even vote for him, let alone donate to him.

 

[whippoorwill]

"This particular lie I made no special effort to refute. I joked with people that if the grassroots heard that I had called Jesse that name, I’d be a hero."

Hellzz yea!

 

[dr.y.squirrel]

Noone's backstabbing anyone. Tom Woods got backstabbed by Benton all over the place and now he's just clearing his name, now that the campaign is over. If someone spreads rumors about you, you have every right to respond, and so does Woods.

 

[sluggo]

Benton is toxic.

I hope Rand will wake up to that fact before 2016.

 

[low preference guy]

Benton is toxic.

I hope Rand will wake up to that fact before 2016.

Rand is smart, he knows. If Benton works for him, Rand will give him a role where he can do no damage, or watch him closely.

 

[libertariantexas]

I'm still not ready to throw Benton completely under the bus. I'm glad he's no longer working within the movement, but I hope some of our ideas, and Ron's ideas, rubbed off on him. Maybe he can sabotage McConnell's campaign?!

I stood up for Benton longer than most, but at this point, it's pretty clear that Benton is just selling out to whoever waves the most money in his face.

 

[anaconda]

We should be letting Rand know now.

I'm guessing that Rand is optimistic about being able to gain wide support throughout the main stream "Tea Party" faction of the GOP voter base, that is so apparently luke warm to the recent GOP nominees. I think he can, and I hope he does. I don't think that the entirety of his talking points over the next 4 years will be entirely satisfying to the purists among Ron Paul devotees. I happen to have faith in Rand's devotion to a libertarian ideology.

 

[kathy88]

I stood up for Benton longer than most, but at this point, it's pretty clear that Benton is just selling out to whoever waves the most money in his face.

I did too. Pretty ashamed I didn't see it/listen to others sooner. But he's at least out of Ron's affairs at least publicly. Maybe Ron will get some truth bombs with him out of the way about how we were treated.

 

[Cody1]

I did too. Pretty ashamed I didn't see it/listen to others sooner. But he's at least out of Ron's affairs at least publicly. Maybe Ron will get some truth bombs with him out of the way about how we were treated.

Hey Kathy, did you see what's up on libertychat?

http://libertychat.com/

Could be just gossip, you know how these things are. I sure hope Ron isn't upset

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Was this posted here? Good lord, Woods would have been a tour de force as Ron's mouthpiece in the media.

 

[angelatc]

As far as Dr. Woods is concerned, it appears I was wrong about the PAC being the reason he wasn't asked to be on the campaign. But, again, I'm still not willing to just automatically agree that Woods has named the reason. It's only one side of this thing and I haven't heard the campaign's.

The campaign lied about the reason. That pretty much negates anything that they may have to say about it in the future.

 

[angelatc]

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Was this posted here? Good lord, Woods would have been a tour de force as Ron's mouthpiece in the media.

I have said all along that the campaign was lying about the Woods / PAC association, because it isn't illegal for Super PAC staffers to have contact with the campaign. The only thing they can't do is coordinate on expenditures and messaging, and they can even do that if the press is an intermediary.

Case in point: Mitt Romney routinely addresses and raises money for his Super PAC. But when the Super PAC started running a controversial ad that the campaign didn't like, Romney made sure a reporter asked him about the ad, and said that he couldn't direct their messaging, but he would prefer it not to run. Whoosh - it disappeared.

That's not illegal. The FEC says that's allowable.

If the campaign could have cooperated and let Tom use Ron to raise money for the Super PAC, and let Tom and Chris Rye go nuts making timely and sharp ads, the campaign would have been stronger for it.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Nevermind.

 

[William R]

Tom Woods is angry because he wasn't asked to help the campaign. But truth be told he would have been a huge liability. Ron already had a problem with the newsletters and the last thing the campaign needed was someone who used to belong to the League of the South.

http://dixienet.org/rights/index.shtml

The Neocons and the media would have gone crazy.

h xxp://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/06/08/beck-hosts-author-who-has-been-member-of-hate-g/165935

Tom, Jesse Benton was right to turn away your offers to help.

 

[angelatc]

Tom Woods is angry because he wasn't asked to help the campaign. But truth be told he would have been a huge liability. Ron already had a problem with the newsletters and the last thing the campaign needed was someone who used to belong to the League of the South.

h xxp://dixienet.org/rights/index.shtml

The Neocons and the media would have gone crazy.

h xxp://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/06/08/beck-hosts-author-who-has-been-member-of-hate-g/165935

Tom, Jesse Benton was right to turn away your offers to help.

So we have to care what Media Matters says? Letting the liberals and neocons decide who we should allow to speak is probably not the best way to win elections, and besides - that's not what the campaign said.

 

[sailingaway]

Tom Woods is angry because he wasn't asked to help the campaign. But truth be told he would have been a huge liability. Ron already had a problem with the newsletters and the last thing the campaign needed was someone who used to belong to the League of the South.

h xxp://dixienet.org/rights/index.shtml

The Neocons and the media would have gone crazy.

h xxp://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/06/08/beck-hosts-author-who-has-been-member-of-hate-g/165935

Tom, Jesse Benton was right to turn away your offers to help.

Oh, please. Give me the League of the South any day over the emails we got this spring, in terms of campaign impact. PARTICULARLY in a GOP primary, where groups like League of the South aren't demonized simply because SPLC says you must. And the campaign should have simply ADDRESSED the newsletters which Ron never wrote -- 20 years ago when he wasn't in office and they were written.

 

[donnay]

Tom Woods is angry because he wasn't asked to help the campaign. But truth be told he would have been a huge liability. Ron already had a problem with the newsletters and the last thing the campaign needed was someone who used to belong to the League of the South.

h xxp://dixienet.org/rights/index.shtml

The Neocons and the media would have gone crazy.

h xxp://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/06/08/beck-hosts-author-who-has-been-member-of-hate-g/165935

Tom, Jesse Benton was right to turn away your offers to help.

You only give credence to the Southern Poverty Law Center when you post tripe like this. *SIGH*

In all honesty it is a badge of honor that the SPLC attacks you--but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

 

[William R]

So we have to care what Media Matters says? Letting the liberals and neocons decide who we should allow to speak is probably not the best way to win elections, and besides - that's not what the campaign said.

Excuse me, but the mainstream media for the most part reads talking points from Media Matters. Throw in the Neocons and Woods would have been a HUGE Liability.

Prominent Neocon blogger David Frum on Ron Paul

frumforum.com/ron-pauls-base/

I'm beginning to think some of those associated with the Mises Institute are more concerned about themselves than they are about expanding the liberty message into the mainstream of political thought.